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Bush, who has shined in Miami since being acquired from New Orleans before the 2011 season, is among those who have made no progress on a deal. Given Miami's recent drafting of running backs Daniel Thomas and Lamar Miller and the expected free-agent interest in Bush, he is unlikely to be back with the Dolphins in 2013. Bush will turn 28 in the offseason.


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Jason LaCanfora doesn't know any more than we do.

That said, I think Reggie would have to have a ridiculous last 7 games to get the contract.  And at that point, he may not be interested in re-signing.

Personally, if Daniel Thomas and Lamar Miller are the best we have next year, its going to be a long season.

Daniel Thomas has played more than Bush most of this year anyway, well since Bush had his injury. Plus they actually trust Thomas more in pass protection as he is the best pass blocking RB on the roster.

I still think push comes to shove Reggie stays, but he ain't getting paid what he thinks he is. Might be another Soliai like hometown discount.

I'm actually OK with Thomas running the ball except for his propensity to fumble.

With Reggie and his fumbling this year Thomas isn't any worse! I wouldn't give up on Thomas just yet, I still think he can be a capable everydown back in this league.

I would say that more than any other position, RB is where you immediately know what you have as soon as a player enters the league.  I would be shocked if Thomas ends up as a player of significance.

when we first got R.Bush to be honest I got a little nervous, hearing all the rumors oh he's not an every down back blah blah..but I think he proved alot of ppl wrong. He is a very explosive RB and def a big threat for opposing defenses. That first year Bush rused for career highs (1000+) plus B.Marshall rec 1000+ first time in the same season n a very long time. So he's def capable of getting the job done. If they think Thomas is better on 3rd downs then let it be, but in my opinion the problem is they dont give Bush enough carries. I mean come on!! In that game agaisnt the Titans, what, he got 4 or 6 carries!!! are you serious?!? Give him at least 20 carries in each of the games, and on top of that he's such a threaT for defenses in the passing game. I kno he's not Ricky Williams, or some other RBs out there but to be fair he's not getting a fair amount of touches in a game to say oh he's not capable of doin some of those things these other guys can. I think he proved alot of ppl wrong last season rushing for career highs. I just dont understand exactly what Miami is trying to get done over here anyway. They get rid of B.Marshall one of the top receivers in the game today, dont replace him with anyone. Tried Ocho but still cut him, I would of kept Ocho at least see what he could do for us. It def seemed like he was ready to play hard and it would of helped some of our younger receivers out also, instead we lost Marshall, and Ocho. But the 100+receptions and 1000+yards rec. was never replaced with another talented player. Thats the type of moves I dont understand. And now they're talking bout getting rid of Bush next season, and keep who? None of the other guys have proved anything to me that they can be starting RB's in this league, not yet. I'd keep Bush maybe for 2 more years, get some receivers to help out R.Tannehill and go from there. Or if they really wanna get rid of Bush I hope they have a better plan in mind than the whole WR mix up. But I still cant get over the fact that we got rid of B.MArshall for nothing basically....Marshall/Bush were our top offensive players last season and this, we'll see what Irleand comes up with now.....

Since they've been on the same team, Bush and Thomas fumble just about as much per carry. There's almost no difference at all.

Bush: .02 fumbles per carry, .012 lost
Thomas: .018 fumbles per carry, .013 lost.

Unless someone on the roster is a significant upgrade or they plan on somehow drafting Duke Johnson (unlikely, as he's a freshman), letting Bush go is little more than a financial move- but I don't think it improves the team. -EK

I heard this on CBS pregame Sunday,wasn't shocked by it...IMO Bush is another guy,that coaching staff is using (that was the other coaching staffs guy) till they get a guy they want,to fit their system...I think they like him as a person,player,he's not a cancer in the locker room,and productive,but doesn't fit what they are wanting...

Priest Holmes just called to say "not so fast, my friends..."

Lex Hilliard, Patrick Cobbs, Jesse Chatman, Sammy Morris, Travis Minor, Lamar Smith, and J.J. Johnson took Priest's call and said, "Tom Brady's career path doesn't mean you should draft your QB in the 6th round."

There are rare exceptions of RBs that take a while to adjust to the pro game, but they are... rare.

Actually I think we'd be alright without Bush next year.  I'd much rather see us re-sign Long and Randy Starks with that money.

Agree with Spider, for the most part if by week 4 of the regular season of their rookie year a RB isn't getting it, they never will.  Exceptions yeah, but that is why they are called exception.  Likewise, WR often take 3 -4 years to hit their stride.  Exceptions, yup. 

Some do, some make an immediate impact.  Exhibit A- Randy Moss.  Exhibit B- Torry Holt.  Exhibit C- Anquan Boldin.

Once again -- citing an exception doesn't disprove the general trend.  Tom Brady doesn't disprove the notion that it is rare to find a franchise quality QB after the 2nd round. 

Findign an example of a nonsmoker dying of lung cancer while a chain smoker lives to 90 doesn't mean that smoking is healthy for you. 

What I'm saying that is with receivers, there might be enough instant impact players to disprove your opinion of a "general trend"

Charles Rogers, Mike Williams, Michael Crabtree, Ted Ginn...

For every example, I can give you a counter-example.

And those guys didn't even take 3-4 years to develop.  They're either developing or in the case of Rogers or Ginn, never did develop. 

My point is this:  There is no "general trend" with wide receivers development. 

You guys talking about getting rid of Reggie Bush and going with Daniel Thomas and Lamar Miller -- I don't know what you're looking at. Or I think you're just used to rooting for losers. There's nobody else on team can take it the distance. Philbin and Mike Sherman are idiots for not finding all kinds of ways for getting Reggie Bush the ball. They are idiots for running Bush up the middle, then putting Daniel Thomas in and running him around the end or throwing him a screen pass. Show me a better Running Back on the roster and then we can talk. As long as Reggie's the ONLY playmaker on the team the Miami Front Office are morons for even risking letting him go somewhere else.

And as far as benching him -- the was one of the dumbest moves in Dolphin history. And that's an accomplishment. Saying you'd rather lose a game, you'd rather bench the only playmaker you've got -- to make a point. It's not like the guy fumbles a lot. So, yeah, that was sending a message all right. The message was -- I am an idiot, I don't care if we win, come lose with me.

Far as I'm concerned the Joe Philbin era in Miami pretty much just ended. Bad enough they don't have brains enough to use the guy correctly, but taking him off the field shows you do not have the football IQ to win in the NFL.

While I was reading the above post, I thought "bravo! finally someone who knows what they're talking about!"

And then I read that last paragraph.

Benching Bush was a horrible and dumb move, but it won't be the nail in Joe Philbin's coffin.  If he makes it a habit (similar to Bush and his fumbling) then I'll get concerned.

See, even if it's just the FIRST NAIL in Joe Philbin's coffin -- it's still a coffin.

jfc Daniel Thomas is terrible.

It's ok! I have it on good authority that Lamar Miller has a bright future in this league because he is avg. over 5 yards per carry and Miami will lose nothing by replacing Bush with him.

*Officially starting a move to lure Duke Johnson from the NCAA Miami to the NFL Miami!*. -EK

That must be why he was so high in the Heisman voting

Which we all know is a perfect indicator of how players perform in the NFL.

I was being sarcastic. Apparently that was lost on you guys. -EK

Not a horrible move. Bush even agreed with it in an interview he gave this week. The RB's first and top priority is to protect the football at all costs. You can't fumble and kill drives and give the ball up. It's a momentum killer and starts the ball rolling on a loss. Not saying IF he didn't fumble Miami would have won, but it wouldn't have handed the Titans prime field position and got the ball rolling for them in that game.

This is the NFL, short of being Peyton Manning, Tom Brady or some other future lock hall of fame player....it doesn't matter what you did yesterday or what your resume reads. Bush is a nice player but doesn't have the currency to make mistakes and keep his job at all costs. He isn't on that level and never has been! If this was his first fumble all year, ok that is one thing. It wasn't and he hasn't produced all that much since his knee injury! The benching was justified! Just like benching Incognitio for his stupid 15 yard penalty was justified!

Before, when I said some of you guys had been rooting for losers too long, this is exactly what I was talking about