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If NE wins, they clinch the division. 

I think its safe to say that NE has already won the division.  NE is just playing for seeding spot now.

^^^^ Pretty much.  But they haven't offically won it yet.  If they win this weekend they get the t-shirts and hats. 

They don't have much of a shot at the #1 or #2 seed.  And the difference between being a 3 vs a 4 is minor.  They will be hosting Colts, Steelers or Bengals wildcard weekend. 

^^^Steelers are falling like a lead balloon, I don't see them making the post season.

Dolphins have 2 things working for them.

1) Gronkowski is out.
2) Brady is not a mobile QB.

Unfortunately I don't think either will be that much of a problem for NE, but it might be close for a while.

^^^^  No, it's not looking good for the Steelers.

I think we can plan on WC weekend being either:

Cin @ NE
Indy @ Denver

or

Indy @ NE
Cin @ Denver

Let the rivalry hate begin....

Two made kicks, and this game actually means something.

Cincy and Pittsburgh are both in about the same boat. They both have the same record and they both play Baltimore, San Diego and Dallas and they play each other. Cincy also plays Philadelphia and Pittsburgh plays Cleveland, neither of which are very good. My guess is that whichever team wins the head to head matchup will go to the playoffs and the other will be out. There's still a small chance that they both lose 3 games and both finish at 8-8 and leave the door open for someone else to catch them, possibly even someone from the AFC East. I did NOT say Miami!!!

Flying in from Montreal!

Thank God they won yesterday, at least the gloom and doom is gone for the time being. 

Hoping we don't get blown out and the game is competitive.  Will be there cheering no matter what!

Predicting:

New England  34
Miami              27

Good close game, but we come up short once again.  Hope I'm wrong!

I predict NE 42, Mia 14

I think the game will be close. I don't see NE running with much success against Miami. Pats WR's might have a decent game this week if they go after Staford/Carroll which I expect they will all game long. Brady is good enough to abuse poor corners.

I could see it being a FG/TD game either way. If NE brings their" A" game on offense though (even without Gronk) they could easily put up a bunch of points and win in a blowout. If it were in NE I think the Pats would win easily, since its in Miami I think it will be tight for the most part. Pats probably win but by no more than 10 and if the Fins won I wouldn't be shocked.

The game could be close at the start, maybe even to the half. But come the 2nd half, NE will absolutely light up our secondary and just run away with it. I only say it'll be close by the half just because the Dolphins always seem to give the Pats some trouble for a while. When the Pats get up by two touchdowns, the game will be over. We don't have an explosive team that can put up quick scores (or many scores).

If Andrew Luck set records against our secondary, put Brady down for 600 yards.

Pats open as a 9pt favorite!

New England 45   Miami 13

That's it?  ;D

It's in Miami and home teams usually get about 3 points just for being at home. Anytime a home team is an underdog by more than 1 score, that's a pretty big line.

This is pretty much what I was thinking.    :(

Yeah, it could get really ugly. Remember too that the Pats have had 10 days to get ready. UGH!

And they've scored around 100 points in their past 2 games total. Doesn't look like they miss Gronk at all. -EK

Like I said on another thread. The Fins just don't match up well with the Pats. The Pats are strong in the passing game and the pass D for the Fins is horrible.

NE is tired from scoring all those points the last couple weeks.  Plus I think they will be looking past the Dolphins, and just enjoy the warmth of the FLA sun.

Miami  28

New England  17

Our secondary couldn't cover a high school team and we haven't had a turnover on defense in 5 games.  Unless the pass rush has a game like it had at Arizona and Brady coughs the ball up a couple times this team has no chance.  He's gonna eat our pass defense for breakfast.

Pats scored 35 of those points on D and special teams, and they have a 10 day rest. Doubtful the offense is fatigued. Biggest stat coming into this game: NE is a ridiculous plus 24 in the giveaway/takeaway category. Miami is minus 10. They turn the ball over too much and don't create enough turnovers to win against New England. Pats 37 Phins 20. -EK

If the spread is 9 pts and I was betting I would take the home dog. Straight up I say NE 24 - Mia 17, in a game that NE dominates despite the close score.

This game has "backdoor cover" written all over it!!

Our secondary is atrocious....Brady is good a abusing teams with a weak secondary.

NE - 42
Miami - 17

^^ that's about what I'm thinking.....But hoping we don't get lit up like a kid  lighting up the pinball machine setting a new high score...

Brady 42,the Dolphins 17....Ditka 107... :P

Miami only wins if New England realizes their division was clinched on Opening Day and they pull a NY Giants and just choose to not give it their best.

No you have it wrong.....Ditka would put up 302.....Mini Ditka on the other hand 107!!!!!  ;)

Yeah, but 1/2 of those were against the Jets in a 2 minute span. lol

Turnovers will be the key. NE has only beaten 2 pretty good opponents, Denver and Indy. Denver turned the ball over 3 times and Indy turned the ball over 4 times. NE was a combined 7-1 on turnover ratio in those 2 games. If Miami turns the ball over it will be a blowout, but if Miami is able to protect the ball and make NE go the length of the field to score, the score could be fairly close.

Turnovers has been the primary reason for NE success.  NE has won the turnover battle in all but one game (Sea, tied at 2 @, NE lost).  The two NE losses, NE was +1 in turnovers.  The only other game where they had ONLY a +1 TO the game went to overtime.  Every other game NE has been +2 or better. 

If a team can win the TO battle they can beat NE pretty easily.  But with the offenses ability to protect the ball and the defenses abality to steal it that is easier said than done.     

In their winning streak, they're averaging close to 40 a game and Brady has what- a dozen or more TDs against no interception? This is the Pats team I thought we'd see all year. -EK

I saw an interview with Brady at the beginning of the year when N.E. was not playing nearly as well and he said, "coach said that the "real season" doesn't start until Thanksgiving".  The Pats have improved consistently all year, which is what you want to do.

Ha! you got me,I'm wrong......Maybe it would be slightly less with his recent stroke...

Personally My faith in winning this game is low...Could we win, Yes...Do I think we're going to win No...

I'd like us to at least start strong,positive plays,get in some type of rhythm...I feel recently Titans,Bills and Seattle,It seems like we've stumbled out of the gate, (The Titans especially but even against the Bills,and Seattle till the 4th Qtr) it never felt like we were running with all 12 cylinders...We sputtered along on 6 or 8...Yeah O-line protection,turnovers,etc,etc...

Exactly.  Folks look at the 8-3 record and say "they ain't as good as they have been in the past"  In some ways that is true.  But on the very positive side, they had two loses early in the season and have been IMPROVING every week.  In contrast to say the 2007 season in which they were playing their best football in September and October and steadily declined. 

You want to peak in January and February.  Granted you need to be decent from Sept - Dec to get a shot at January, but I like NE's trajectory.  And for all the hand wring over Gronk, NE will win the division without him, as long as he is healthy for January 6/7 all is good.   

The Pats are like the NY Yankees. Nobody cares about the regular season or #1 seeds or homefield advantage. There season starts in January and will be judged starting in January!

They have gotten to that level!

I think your division title should come with an asterisk if no one else in the division is over .500

Yeah, ussually early in the season you get one --in a couple of days it might read something like this.....

Patriots* 9-3
Dolphins 5-7
Jets 4-8
Bills 4-8

*Clinched division and playoff berth.

The Giants may end up getting an asterisk too. I wouldn't be surprised if they faced off in the Superbowl again. It's an easier road when you can take it easy for 6 games a year.

Should be a good game.. Miami has been playing good football. Good luck guys.

Pats 31
Phins 24

Not a good start  >:D

Tannehill off the mark, and a poor punt play....gonna be a long day. -EK

Our D gets a break on another guy wide open who just can't make the grab.

Let the bloodbath begin.

That looked like a bad spot and should be 4th down. Oh well.

Excellent throw on the run and tremendous catch. Makes it manageable.

This team sucks. 

And another 3 and out. Bess and RT not on the same page. Hopefully fields can catch it.

Hartline is good for at least one of those every week! -EK

We need a big play from the defense on this series

Yes, what an amazing 6 yard completion.  All that work for 6 yards.

Keep giving up 1st downs on 3rd and 8+. 

Where the hell is our up the seam pass ? I see so many different pass routes from teams in this league and all I see out of the Dolphins is the same old weak ass shit week in and week out. Do they have more than 5 pages in their offensive play book ?

Brady is losing his touch.. he has been off all season

Great coverage there.  Both defenders were within 5 yards of the receiver.

here comes a miss

They need to get a kicker this guy has been missing all year.

Not every play is a home run.

Some points would be nice. Or, at least a 1st down.

Nice catch Hartline, POS

A big chance missed there boy that should have been six.

So much for that !!!

Hartline has his man beat on that one. Overthrown. -EK

Hey, Hartline sure is good on those 6 yard catches. 

Not overthrown, Hartline just sucks

Dam.. I wish he hit him for that TD I picked up Hartline this week on my FFB team

Tepop84, you might want to move closer to your TV that was clearly a overthrow

Great punt, too bad it means that it is going to be a 98 yard td drive instead of an 80 yard

ball hit Hartline hands. He has to judge the pass better when nobody is near him and make that catch

Fields as the team MVP 3 years running, lol. -EK

Just a tad overthrown. Darn, needed that.

Great tackling burnett, douche

block in the back

GREAT F'n PLAY!!! Jones with an amazing INT!

here come the refs to bail out brady

The refs are going to take over the game and give it to the Patriots

That was a nice INT, sucks that they took that TD away but ill take it.

Burnett fucking sucks

actually not, that was a low block.

you guys got away with a hold right there

Daniel Thomas FUCKING BLOWS!

Thomas shows yet again why Bush needs to be re-signed. -EK

Maybe we'll get a FG on you guys, ha ha. What's up Pats, ain't seen ya much lately.

I wouldn't mind seeing some of Miller. Hell, do they still even have him. If they do, I'm not sure why he isn't in the rotation.

Jake Long hurt...shocking!

lol, not much been busy with work. You know I have to stop by when we are playing  ;D

FIRE JEFF IRELAND

You will see a LOT of him next year!! Trust me. Bush last year of his deal. Thomas always fumbling. Miller Time is 2013!

Way to scramble on 3rd and 19 tannehille.

Yay! The Pats get away with another penalty. No face mask called. Oh well. We certainly messed up the great INT.

got them in FG range. Want him to throw it away and punt instead  ::)

WOW, 3 whole points for us....

That low block cost them a TD there because it wasn't necessary to the play.

I would like to see them score a td.  Settling for a fg when you get the ball on the patriots half isn't going to win against NE.

I was thinking the same, no problem with the scramble from me.

LIE! he isn't inactive this week.

More Fireman EK bullshit about the "doghouse". Source it or STFU about it! Cause at this point you are making stuff up! He was playing in the first half of the Titans games a few weeks back. That's some Doghouse   ::)

On 3rd and 19 and OUT of field goal range sometimes the smart play is to settle. It wasn't 3rd and 4....it was 3rd and 19!!!

At the end of 1 its 7-3 and the Fins GAVE them the 7.

3 and out by the defense! Getting the ball back

EDIT: SO much for that!

FUCK THIS WHOLE TEAM

wow, way to give that one back to the pats

I am starting to wonder if they are trying lose this game.  That was the dumbest thing I have ever seen this year

WTF was he thinking!

I get it, they are playing aggressive trying to "make a play" to turn the game. But I wouldn't have gone aggressive there in that situation

Punt return would have been fine there

Such incompetence, so sad....

What are you talking about? I deleted the post b/c he IS active. Goodle "Lamar Miller" and "Doghouse" and you'll get over 3 MILLION hits. I'm not going to source all of them you drama queen. 3 carries againt Tenn. Yeah...real active.  ::)  -EK

Who the fuck is covering Welker ? This is ridiculous.

Pats refs...

Talk a bout a phantom PI. Bad call. -EK

Great. Another bad call by the refs there. How is that a PI penalty?

Let's review the mistakes

1) overthrow that should have been a touchdown

2) penalty negating a touchdown

3) penalty keeping a Patriots drive alive

The same issue we have with Welker every time we play the Pats.

Dansby is such a piece of shit.

Bess DROP on the 1st play of the game

The meat grinder is going full blast at this point.

QB sneak

B. Marshall 6 catches on 8 targets for 89 yards.  Great trade Ireland!

Let's see if they can force a field goal attempt here

Preach on. -EK

He has been killin it this year..

Ryan Tannehill 2/8 for 17 yards. hmmm

Nce play call

That penalty cost them seven more points.

The player who committed that roughing the kicker penalty should be cut right now.  Not after the game.   NOW.  He has no business ever playing football again.

Aight. That's the game. I'll go do something productive now. Lol.

You're not allowed to say this. MikeO may have an aneurysm. -EK

Don't blame him, the coaches shouldn't have called for a "punt block" and just put on a return. Take the ball with field position!!

If he just runs into the kicker it is only a 5 yard penalty and still 4th down...

Go fuck yourself Fireman EK! Go jerk off to one of your many Tebow posters hanging in your bedroom! You cry like a little bitch and run to the mods when people call you out, but in the next breath you do the same exact thing!!

It's clear you aren't a Dolphins fan. You just come here to rag on them at every turn. After a good play and team wins you aren't here. After losses and the first bad play of a game you run here to rub it in everyone's face and call it out. You are worthless on every level and add NOTHING to this website at all.

if he thought he had a block he isn't going to go half speed though

TANNEHILL!!!

Somebody put this POS out of his misery

who?

omg that is vince wilforks wife?  I thought it was a guy

Turnover by Taint-ehill. Shocker. -EK

I thought it was his mom

Put Moore in....

the fact he was blindsided had nothing to do with it  ::)

He sucks

you say everybody sucks. You're act is old and tired!

And Henne just ran it in in Jax. Shouldn't have given up on what they had to reach on RT. -EK

3-9 for 19 yards w/ a fumble....

And pretty much everybody on the team does suck thanks to Ireland....

Henne is 5-15 today. Really lighting it up!

And you expect people to take this as a serious post? And you as a serious poster with this type of BS? Please!

5-15 with a TD is better than 3-9 with a fumble. Food for thought there. -EK

LOL@ 5-15.  Henne should have been cut after his 3rd year in Miami, not resigned.  But that due to that POS Ireland.

Or just play Matt Moore and the team might actually score a td...

Nice one Hartline!

Because thats how you compare players. A quarter and a half stat comparison during some random week in December. Give me a break. You are a total joke EK! Lowest football IQ I have ever seen a person have.

Just punt on 1st down, no way they are going to move the chains.

Bad week to pick up Hartline on my FFB team  :-\ Thought Miami would be able to move the ball beter against the pats d

Mike brings up the stat line to start with and then gets pissed when I point out that Henne's numbers are better than his golden boy. What are you, 5 years old throwing your temper tantrums in here? -EK

Watching Fasano run with the ball in his hands and watching Aaron Hernandez run with the ball in his hands is night and day. Why Fasano has to go and Miami needs a more athletic TE corp.

Tepop do you have bipolar?  Just curious

Stats don't count when we compare the Dolphins defense? Why should they count now? You love to cherry pick stats and ignore other stats. Just using you're retarded Fireman EK logic!

The whole team needs to go along with the GM.

Like I said, you expect people to take this as a serious post?

More name calling when you have no valid argument.

Meanwhile on the field, Tannehill shows why he should have stayed as a WR in college. He's better running the ball than passing it. -EK

And Bush running well, here is where they take him out and put in that fumbling turtle Thomas.

Bush is running hard. Laughable that anyone thinks Miller can do what he does. Miller can't even run the right routes, which is why he got pulled in the first place back in October. -EK

Well done Thomas.

Nice play by Hartline there

Look at the fucking scoreboard Hartline before you start celebrating.

If they had a true #1, Hartline would be a pro bowler. -EK

QB Draw? Really? Don't like that play call

I didn't like it either.

Is this four down territory for Miami? 

NO!

He wasn't a pro bowler last year....

Touché  -EK

Nice play call

Back in the game

We got are selfs a game

Nice, athletic run. As long as they don't let him throw, they're fine. -EK

For all the bitching some of you people do the team is only down 7!

Not really, Pats probably score before half, and score first thing after the half.

What a dumb ass jumping into th endzone like that.. good way to hurt your self

he wasn't jumping as a celebration or showboating, he was trying to avoid a  hit!!!!  ::)

he could have avoided the hit with out jumping like that, watch the replay

Maybe so, but it worked so who gives a fuck!

I could care less just said thats a good way to hurt your self when your the only QB your team has

Long in a baseball hat on the sidelines...wonder how many games he's down for... -EK

Was the spread still 9 pts for this game ?

Thought I saw it drop to 7 1/2. -EK

that is a terrible call!

Dansby arm-barred him. Replay showed it. It is what it is. -EK

thats got to hurt

Wake just destroyed Brady!!! -EK

BIG play by Wake!

illegal contact and not pass interference! Difference of about 20 yards! Ball wasn't even catchable so there should have been no flag IF they are gonna go with the PI call

That's such a bullshit call on dansby.  Arm bar my fockin ass.  If you're NE IOU get that call and the Phins don't.  Dan dierdorf can suck my ass.  That was good defense, the WR WASN'T CATCHING THAT PASS.  I hate when refs call that crap on a good play by the LB covering a TE.

Line on bovada.nl was 9

My wife was yelling give Tom Brady a joe theisman!!! Lol

Bush the 1 yard wonder running into the pile!

Charles Clay improving each week! About time!

The Mirage and Caesar's (and a few others) have it at 7-7 1/2. -EK


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GO FOR IT!!

If you are gonna be aggressive and go for a punt block then be aggressive here!

He knows Tannehill can't be counted on. Better to pin them deep than give it to Brady at near midfield. -EK

If you can't play nice, you can't play at all.  Bye.