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Title: Brandon Marshall
Post by: EKnight on December 17, 2012, 09:41:16 am
Quietly set career highs yesterday in receptions (107) and yards (1398), and tied a career high in TDs (10) with two games left to play. In retrospect, should Miami have held on to him, held out for more than they got (two 3rd rounders), or are you OK with what went down? -EK


Title: Re: Brandon Marshall
Post by: CF DolFan on December 17, 2012, 10:08:11 am
I'm absolutely fine with it. You can't put a price on chemistry or a rookie's psyche both of which I believe management was concerned with him about.  Even if he breaks NFL records in Chicago it wouldn't change the effect he would have had here.


Title: Re: Brandon Marshall
Post by: Phishfan on December 17, 2012, 10:43:56 am
I should have started a thread count on how many times in a season we can debate Brandon Marshall. I bet we would have hit the over by now. I personally don't think he would have had that same season here. I'm still fine with him being gone.


Title: Re: Brandon Marshall
Post by: Brian Fein on December 17, 2012, 11:48:32 am
Fine with it.  You can't trade based on potential.  You trade based on performance.  The Bears bought low based on performance.  The Dolphins were happy to get rid of him.

Marshall plays well when he WANTS to.  He didn't WANT to play for the Dolphins.  Him and Jay Cutler have some weird man-love going on.


Title: Re: Brandon Marshall
Post by: Spider-Dan on December 17, 2012, 11:49:32 am
I should have started a thread count on how many times in a season we can debate Brandon Marshall. I bet we would have hit the over by now. I personally don't think he would have had that same season here. I'm still fine with him being gone.
Yeah, well, when you trade the best offensive player on your team (who plays a position that you now desperately need help at) for a bag of Skittles and a can of iced tea, and he subsequently sets career highs in production, that's the kind of response that should be expected.

Ireland has already completely wasted (as in got literally zero production) from the first of those two 3rd-rounders.  He'd better improve his results with the next one.


Title: Re: Brandon Marshall
Post by: MikeO on December 17, 2012, 06:24:34 pm
Let's go over his time in Miami

1) Yelled at Henne on the sidelines and threw temper tantrums constantly
2) Yelled at Matt Moore last year at halftime in a game where Miami was leading because he "wasn't getting the ball enough"
3) Got arrested for being piss drunk and playing taxi cab roulette and trying to get out paying a taxi driver
4) Got stabbed (of course he had nothing to do with it) then went to court and ripped up the sobpoena and threw it at the feet of the court officer
5) Ripped the WR coach  for the Dolphins in the press and said that he has poor WR coaching and that is why he is having bad years in Miami
6) Went on national tv at the Pro Bowl and said he wanted Matt Flynn in Miami (probably made Moore feel good) and was recruiting him
7) Said in a Sporting News article in the middle of the season the playcalling sucks in Miami
8 ) Punched Vontae Davis in the lockerroom. Even if Vontae deserved it, there are better ways to handle those situations
9) Before a Monday Night game he claimed he was going to start a fight and get thrown out of a game (that sure is a "team player")
10) Dropped so many easy balls we all lost count!

Seriously, anyone who still wonders why Ross, Ireland, and Philbin wanted him gone at all costs just doesn't understand NFL football.

Want to rip Miami for NOT replacing him, fine. That is fair. Want to rip Miami for getting rid of him....NO F'n WAY!! It was the right move!


(P.S...for having such a great year the Bears probably aren't going to the playoffs either!! So its all for not)


Title: Re: Brandon Marshall
Post by: Pappy13 on December 17, 2012, 07:27:25 pm
Quietly set career highs yesterday in receptions (107) and yards (1398), and tied a career high in TDs (10) with two games left to play. In retrospect, should Miami have held on to him, held out for more than they got (two 3rd rounders), or are you OK with what went down? -EK
I'm fine with it because if Marshall would have stayed in Miami he wouldn't have put up those numbers. His numbers would look a whole lot more like they looked the last 2 years with Miami which is what Hartline's numbers look like this year. Trading those number for 2 thirds and saving the cap space was a fair trade. They still have to do something with those picks and the cap space, but at least there is that possibility.


Title: Re: Brandon Marshall
Post by: TonyB0D on December 17, 2012, 08:05:39 pm
you forgot that he punched a woman in the face in the city


Title: Re: Brandon Marshall
Post by: Brian Fein on December 17, 2012, 10:38:14 pm
Also, it is important to remember that. When that trade was made, they were courting Peyton manning, and didn't have cap space to make a realistic run at him. I wonder if there was a bit of "tryig to make room for peyton" in this deal as well.


Title: Re: Brandon Marshall
Post by: Spider-Dan on December 17, 2012, 11:14:15 pm
If Ireland was truly stupid enough to believe that trading away Marshall for draft picks (as opposed to, say, trading him for Greg Jennings, Mike Wallace, or anyone of value) would somehow make Miami an attractive target for Peyton Manning, he deserves every bit of criticism ever written.


Title: Re: Brandon Marshall
Post by: Brian Fein on December 18, 2012, 10:33:12 am
Not saying that it would make Miami more attractive, but it would allow Miami to even try.  With Marshall's 16MM on the books, they couldn't even afford to compete with no cap space.  Methinks they were already shopping him, and Manning just dictated the timing.


Title: Re: Brandon Marshall
Post by: miamid45 on December 20, 2012, 11:08:22 pm
Now without Long, our cap space will definitely be huge!