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That time of year when the coaches get the axe... Who's gone?

Andy Reid was reportedly the first casualty, but no *official* statement has been made yet. Basically, according to reports, he's fired, but just won't be told officially until tomorrow. Always a sign of a classy organization.

Not unlike the above, local media in Cleveland are reporting that the GM and coach Schurmur will be gone tomorrow... you now, once the owner actually gets around to telling the people involved.

I can't imagine Crennel stays in KC... Mularkey, Rex Ryan, Norv Turner could easily be gone as well. Considering the GM was fired a couple of months ago, Ron Rivera can't be feeling to secure in Caroline, but that decision will almost certainly not come until a new GM is found.

Jets just fired their GM Tanenbaum. Probably a sign Rex is safe and has survived.

I disagree. Isn't the procedure often that the new GM gets to fire the coach (unless he wants to keep the guy and not bring in "his own").

If Christmas Tree is out in NY, I think the coaches are gone as well once a new GM is found.

Woody loves Rex. Rex gets him headlines and on the backpage of the NY papers. Rex is safe.

With the way the Lions grossly underachieved, I wouldn't be surprised to see Jim Schwartz get the axe.

Adam Schefter reported already that Schwartz is safe.

IF they did fire him the Lions job is the best OPEN job in the league. You would see Cowher and Gruden line up for that one. Established QB in place. Talent on the d-line. All world WR. Great ownership. That would be the job the "A list guys" would come out for.

Hell hath frozen over.

I know, I never thought I would see the day either, but the Lions job would be a great job if it came open. That team is loaded with talent. They just need someone to bring it all together.

Shumer and Heckert FIRED in Cleveland

Rex Ryan staying as head coach of the Jets

What a joke. Cleveland was more competitive than NYJ this year. -EK

Wow.  Both GM Mike Tannenbaum, and OC Tony Sparano have been let go.  I'm surprised they "reassigned" Mike Tannenbaum.  Having him in the building will do nothing but undermine whichever GM they bring in.  Talk about a three ring circus. 

Lovie Smith fired

Andy Reid fired

Chan Gailey fired

Romeo Crenell fired

Chargers have fired Norv and and AJ Smith (announcment pending)

About time for Norv Turner.  With the talent he's had on that team, it has grossly underachieved.  He should've been gone a long time ago.

Crenell I'm surprised about seeing as he has been there for only one year and the Chiefs have not had good quarterback play.

Chan Gailey was a no brainer.  The Bills spent a boatload of money to upgrade the defense and turned out no better than in years past. 

Same goes for Lovie Smith whose team has missed the playoffs the past two seasons after hosting the NFC title game in 2010.

As for Reid, I'm guessing the team decided they needed a breath of fresh air.

Conflicting reports that Ron Rivera in Carolina has been fired but it won't be announced today

Tannenbaum is GONE. Not reassigned. He wrote a letter, read it to the team and cried! (there's no crying in football...lol)

OK, I heard on the radio early this morning that he had been reassigned.

Lovie Smith fired..a bit surprised with this one! ???

He is a terrible head coach. Terrible gameday coach

The Arizona Cardinals have fired coach Ken Wisenhunt and GM Rod Graves.

Jacksonville has fired GM Gene Smith but has decided to hang onto coach Mike Mularkey for the moment. 

http://www.wjla.com/articles/2012/12/black-monday-2012-nfl-head-coaches-gms-fired-in-droves-day-after-season-ends-83582.html


I wonder who came up with the nickname Black Monday?  I think we should call it Pink Monday seeing as so many coaches and GM's are getting pink slips.

Greg Knapp after 1 year will be fired in Oakland. Announcement coming later this week according to reports.

Former Dolphins special teams coach and now the special teams coach in Atlanta Keith Armstrong has interviews in Chicago and KC for the head coaching position.

(this might be to get the Rooney Rule requirement out of the way up front, it's been known to happen unfortunately)

Just go ahead and call it Walking Papers Week...you know you want to.

And why would I?  That's not a term I normally use.  I prefer to use more PC terms such as "being made available to the industry" or "A coach who was promoted to fan"

Agreed....with that defence..no excuse for not making the playoffs........

Doug Marrone of Syracuse interviewing with Cleveland and Buffalo.

"Who ya gonna call? ...Marrone!"


(with apologies to those non-locals who don't see/listen to the Maroone car dealership commercials every day of their lives)

Reid to KC
Kelly to Cleveland
Those are done


Looks like Buffalo wants Whisenhunt or Marrone. Lovie still in play there though as an outside chance
Chicago is staying quiet but looks like McCoy is the clubhouse leader
Philly I have no idea right now. They wanted Kelly or O'Brien but they won't get either

Kelly to CLE isn't done yet:

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/62807/browns-meeting-with-kelly-ends-with-no-deal

He would have to be stupid to torpedo himself by taking the Browns job; DET or CAR could be available in a year.  Or wait two years and sign with whichever pathetic team gets Manziel.

Cleveland owner has very deep pockets and that is a good job right now. Waiting around hoping for Det or Carolina might not be wise. I could see Detroit bouncing back next year and Carolina has a crazy owner I don't think anyone wants to work for.

What pieces does CLE have in place besides LT... KR?

It's hard enough transitioning from college to the NFL.  If you're going to make that jump, best to go to a team that has some good pieces in place (with "pieces" being either good players, or a very high draft pick in a good year).  If he wants to come over this year, PHI and SD at least have some football players on their teams.

Anyway, it's not like Kelly will be scrounging for pennies if he stays in Eugene.

1) Trent Richardson
2) An above average defense
3) The bar is set low, if he wins 7-9 games they will build him a statue in that city
4) You are going to a new owner and you are his first major hire he will give you as much time as needd to win because he won't want to fire someone quick.
5) The AFC North is a division in flux. Baltimore and Pitt are on the way down. Cincy is solid but nothing spectacular. I would rather be in the AFC North than the NFC East which is killer . And SD might be moving to a new city in a year or two I would avoid that franchise like the plague

Not to mention that the NCAA has been investigating Oregon and could drop the hammer soon.  Chip Kelly is pulling a Pete Carroll stunt.

Buffalo hired Doug Marrone

Looks like the Browns f'd up their coaching search.

Interview Bill OBrien, but Bill says he will stay at Penn ST. Interviewed Marrone who they liked. They really wanted Kelly from day 1 though. They interview Kelly after the Fiesta Bowl, can't agree to terms with him that day but hope they can. Kelly is now set to sign with Philly. Marrone, the Browns back-up plan, signs with Buffalo.

Browns miss out on their #1, #2 and #3 options.

CLE is not a good job.  (Richardson hasn't even done anything yet.)

BUF has many good players on defense and has Spiller, Jackson (trade bait), and Stevie Johnson on offense.  Not surprising that Marrone would pick BUF over CLE.

Its easy to pick when one team hasn't offered you anything! lol, Cleveland still waiting on Kelly!

And if you don't see the talent that is Trent Richardson I don't know what to tell ya. I mean Miami passed on Trent and Blackmon ya know!  ;)

Something else to remember, the man running the Bills now Russ Branden is from East Syracuse, NY and close with Marrone. Branden is also  a Syracuse grad like Marrone. That he hired his friend and not the best man for the job.

Time will tell but that is what many think happened

1317 yards from scrimmage and 12 TDs as a rookie. That's hardly not done "anything," and it's better than any back in Miami did this year. -EK

Richardson is an excellent player... a top 10 back in my books.

Reports Chip Kelly is STAYING at Oregon.

Classic case of a college coach using NFL teams to get more money out of his school. In 2 years now he has meet with TB, Cleveland, Philly, and Buffalo and turned down all 4 jobs. Clearly not intending to take any job it seems!

Sorry to see Marrone leave Syracuse, he was really turning that team around.

Richardson might turn out to be a good player, but his 2012 season was journeyman-like: 18th in rushing yards (37th in YPC), 18th in yards from scrimmage.  His one good stat was TDs (he finished 7th with 12 TDs), but given his anemic YPC (he only had 1 receiving TD) and the fact that CLE didn't have another player in the top 50 of TDs scored, I'd guess that CLE just fed him over and over every time they got near the red zone.

Right now, today, Richardson is definitely not a player that makes you sign with a team.  I'd take C.J. Spiller over Richardson straight up; Spiller finished 8th in rushing yards and 5th in yards from scrimmage even while platooning with Fred Jackson.

18th in rushing yards as a rookie, coming off knee surgery a month before the season started on a team with zero other offense, so the D can stack the box on every down is hardly "journeyman." He ran behind the 20th ranked O line in the league as well. But even if you feel that way, most other people feel like he's a VERY good back- and either way, that's hardly "he hasn't done anything." The second half of the year- when many rookies "hit the wall" he got healthy and ran for 602 yards and 7 TDs in 8 games. Incidently, Spiller ran behind the #8 ranked O line, and when he was hurt or getting a rest, Jackson did just fine (6.4 yards per carry), so I'm not sure how much "better" Spiller would be. -EK

Sorry, but 18th is definitely "journeyman"; you can make excuses (valid or not) for his journeyman-like performance, but that doesn't somehow push it up the scale.  3.6 YPC is actually sub-journeyman.

But I do agree that when you have a rookie starting on a bad team with very little help, you should probably give him some more time before declaring him an unsalvageable failure.  That's why I said that Richardson might still turn out to be a good player.

Back to the original topic...

Gruden's name has been shot down in Cleveland as they don't want him but he has been mentioned in Philly now. Looks like Jon is floating his name out there. Philly would probably love him but I am guessing this is Jon just wanting some attention and not sure if its serious.

Marc Trestman is being mentioned in Cleveland as the front-runner

Mike Sherman possibly to get looked at in Chicago.

Bruce Arians to SD was a lock before his health issues it appears. Don't know where SD goes now or if they wait and see whats up with Arians

Jax just fired Mike Mularkey after 1 year

New GM, new coach. That almost always happens unless the coach is VERY successful

Of course, the Panthers provided a nice counterexample by hiring a new GM a few days ago and then announcing that Ron Rivera would stay on as head coach for 2013. The Panthers won 6 last season and 7 this season... hardly inspiring. I'd expect Rivera to be gone if next year doesn't show improvement.

Browns hired Chudzinski

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8833956/cleveland-browns-hire-rob-chudzinski-head-coach

The Panthers were a tough out all year and went 5-1 to finish the year. They also lost 7 games by less than a TD. Everyone who has penciled them in as a win next year is outside if their mind. You put a healthy defense back on the field- which I imagine will happen next year- and they're a playoff team as is, right now. -EK

Norv Turner to Cleveland as Offensive Coordinator

They only beat 2 teams with a winning record (Atlanta and Washington) and they actually lost to KC. They weren't that impressive. For a team in the 2nd year of a regime with a so called "great can't miss" QB....that isn't good.

You don't get brownie points for being a "tough out". You either win or you lose! Nobody cares if you "lose close."

Jimmy Johnson reporting the Bears will hire Marc Trestman as head coach.

Unless you watched them play, you have no idea what you're talking about. Aren't you the one who is always saying the box score is meaningless and stats don't tell the whole story? They were a far more impressive 7-9 than, say, Miami. -EK

I did watch them play. And I saw Cam act like a child and sulk multiple times on the sideline and act lik an overgrown child. They had 2 good wins. The 5 other "good" teams they played they lost. Den, Giants, Chicago,Seattle,  Dallas (and lost the Giants/Den games very badly.) Also lost the other Atlanta game. They beat up on the bad teams (Philly, Raiders, SD, Saints...etc) and actually lost to a god awful KC team and got swept by the Bucs.

They are an OK/middle of the pack team. But not impressive or better than their record indicates. They gave up 363 pts only a few teams gave up more. They suck on defense.

You obviously didn't watch them play much or you would have seen that they lost the first Atlanta game on a fluke play with less than a minute left. You would have also seen that they don't suck on defense, they had several injuries on that side of the ball. Big difference. -EK

a loss is a loss. fluke or not! No excuses!

So when it's Miami and RT, "he's a rookie, there's a learning curve, look at the improvement, it's growth and encouraging." When it's any other team, "a loss is a loss." Further, if a loss is a loss, then a win is a win, and you can't discount any of their wins as  "unimpressive." Interesting lack of logic. Paint it whatever color you want- I believe Carolina is a playoff team and will have ten wins next year. -EK

1) How did Miami and Tannehill get thrown into this thread?

2) Newton ISN'T a rookie, bad comparison!

3) I can discount their wins as unimpressive if they are over  BAD teams!

4) You are welcome to beleive whatever you want! Nobody is stoping ya!  :)

Yes you can certainly say whatever you want, but you look like a fool saying a loss is a loss, but only for certain teams and not others, while simultaneously arguing a win isn't a win. -EK

I never said that, but whatever. Moving on!

Ariens to SD as long as his medicals come out OK .

Looks like Mike Nolan might get a shot in Philly once Atlanta's season is over as well

Considering they were friends and worked together in Atlanta ... I didn't think this would happen. Not this year anyway.  I have to believe he already knows who he is bringing to Jacksonville. 

Greg Roman.  Roman and the new GM Caldwell are former college roomates

^^^ I'd hate for the 49ers to lose Roman so soon, but as I noted a while back, I do think he is an outstanding coach, and deserves a HC opportunity. I was just hoping it would come 1-2 years from now...

I didn't think so. They had their moments in the last half of the year, but the first half of the year they looked much worse than Miami.

Your predictions haven't been too accurate so far.

Just my opinion, I could be wrong. :)

Pappy they had Atlanta beat early on and were in almost every game they played. I don't recall them getting waxed by 30 by a 6-10 team like Miami did. What did the Phins show you "early on" that looked better than what Carolina did? -EK

Carolina only lost to a 2 win KC team that was beyond awful, that's something to hang your hat on!  ::)

Monte Kiffin to Dallas as their Defensive Coordinator

Good hire for the Cowboys!

So somehow losing by 30+ to a 6 win team is better than losing by 6 to a 2 win team? Thought a loss was a loss? Or isn't it? Or is it still only applicable to non-Miami teams? -EK

Miami beat Cincy in week 5, St. Louis in week 6 and Seattle in week 12. Carolina's first big win came in week 14 when their season was over.

I'm not saying that Carolina is crap, but they are no more a playoff team right now then Miami is. They both have work to do to become playoff teams. Now I know that you said give them a defense and they are a playoff team, but you can say the same about Miami if you say give Tannehill a #1 WR and a TE. Playoff bound baby!!!! It's easy to say, harder to accomplish.

A loss is a loss, that's my point!! (thank you for making it for me!!!) You are ranking losses which is silly. And I am pointing out if you want to "rank them" (playing along with your logic) then which one is worse. Clearly losing to a 2 win team is worse! So you "propping up" the Panthers looks silly!

By the way, nobody is bashing the Panthers, they are a nice little 7 win team. Ordinary team, middle of the pack team. Nothing special. Maybe they will win 10 games next year and make the playoffs, in this league anything can happen we will see. But in 2012 they were average at best and bad most weeks. That's a fact!

Nobody's bashing them but they're an ordinary, middle of the pack team? Wtf? They had two major injuries on defense (LB and CB) and I believe when healthy are far better than their record- which, was of course, the same as Miami's. I'm sure if they trounce the Phins by 3 TDs next season you guys will have massive excuses for it as well. -EK

You clearly will be rooting against Miami that week like you do each and every week!

Arizona is waiting on Mike McCoy according to reports. If Haley gets the Arizona job though then Whisenhunt to Pitt as OC many believe

Lovie Smith might sit out the year and wait for a job next year

He is a great up and coming coach and Jax will do very well to land him.

Browns fired Dick Jauron

Mike, honestly why does that get your panties in such a wad? What is it about the thought of someone cheering for a team other than Miami that makes you bitch so much? You relish in the misery of every person you can, so I figured you would be the first person to understand someone rooting for the opposition. Every time someone in the league gets arrested, fired, cut, or breaks a fingernail, you can't wait to run to your keyboard and "report it" here. You've started more negative threads about players and their off-field problems than everyone else here combined. SURELY, negativity is right up your alley. -EK

Miami had a major injury at CB as well. They also had a major injury at LT.

Same for Miami. (Maybe far better is going too far, but it probably is for Carolina as well).

And if they don't?

If they don't I'll eat crow. Given Miami's knack for making even average (Bradford) and subpar (Sanchez) QBs look great, I can only imagine what Cam and Steve Smith will do. Seriously, how many QBs had their best game of the year against Miami? Anybody got a stat on that? -EK

http://www.nfl.com/player/tombrady/2504211/gamelogs
Brady has one of his worst if not his worst Week 13 vs Miami

Former Fins QB Doug Pederson is the new Offensive Coordinator in KC

So...that's what 15 great and one poor? Lol, honestly I know it's not that lopsided, but Palmer (373 yards), Sanchez (306), Kolb (324), Bradford (315), and Luck (433) all went off against Miami in terms of yards and Brady's second game he was much better (284; 2 TDs; 104.4 rating). They got better as the year and on, though, I'll grant you that. -EK

Rob Ryan to the RAMS as Deffensive Coordinator

Looks like Mike McCoy migth have his choice between Chicago and Arizona once Denver's season ends.

Reason why Norv Turner went to Cleveland over Dallas and some other teams who offered him OC jobs. Chud hired Norv's son and Norv wanted to coach with his son. So he went to Cleveland. Chud sold the combo of him and Norv to the Browns Ownership and it got him the job. Because they like the Chud-Norv combo and felt it was better than anything else out there at this time they could hire.

Jay Glazer reported on WFAN that the Browns do feel the dropped the ball big-time on Doug Marrone and regret not hiring him after interviewing him twice.

Brian Kelly staying at ND and NOT going to Philly according to Pete Thamel.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/13/report-eagles-interviewed-brian-billick/

The idiot Billick finally got an interview. Some team broke down and gave him a few minutes to pitch his case!

^^Sour grapes because be said Tannehill sucked and shouldn't be drafted by Miami, lol. ;) -EK

He's an idiot cause he wrote a full column for NFL.com Week 2 talking about the BIG Raiders win over the Dolphins. Only problem is the Dolphins won the game. Hence he is an IDIOT!!!! The other idiots are those at NFL.com who didn't proof his column and published it!

P.S...you got a sick f'n obsession with Tannehill! Crowbaring him into every thread. Wow. Sick. Really sick.

Seattle Defensive Coordinator will interview in Philly and SD. Many think he has the inside track for the Philly job. They seem to like him alot

Denvers O-coodinator Mike McCoy to the Chargers,rumored to told the Broncos he's taking the job...

Albert Breer Tweet about it, Schefter reported it earlier also...
Chargers and McCoy are negotiating the deal now. But the bottom line is that McCoy has accepted the job. (https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/291203914810929152)

I heard on the radio that the Bears have agreed to terms with Marc Trestman and the Jaguars are going to interview Bengals offensive coordinator Jay Gruden

I would love to see Gruden in Jacksonville!!

Chip Kelly is being named Philly's head coach today, according to the NFLN a minute or two ago...looking for a link now.


edited to add link:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8849699/chip-kelly-bolts-oregon-ducks-coach-philadelphia-eagles-sources (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8849699/chip-kelly-bolts-oregon-ducks-coach-philadelphia-eagles-sources)

Wow......I thought he said he was staying in Oregon....kinda shocked at that news.

Maybe Nike wasn't paying him enough!!!!!

Nope. Oregon about to get some NCAA sanctions probably and Chip got wind of it. Chip pulled a Pete Carroll! Get out now!

^^^^^
Haven't we all known about the sanctions for while now though.....so why wait....was this to get more money out of the Eagles?

Sanctions are really hurting the NCAA.  They are in a no-win situation.  As soon as there's talk of it, their high profile names bolt.

Not hurting them too bad. The championship ratings were up 9% from the previous year.

I called it didn't I??  Kelly needed to bolt before the NCAA dropped the hammer.  He just didn't want to go to that hot mess in Cleveland.

The longer the Jaguars go without signing a new HC, the more nervous I get. I just know they are waiting for the 49ers to finish their playoff run so they can steal Greg Roman. Hopefully the Niners can make them wait a little bit longer...

Then I guess it's a good thing that the NFL continues to enforce their monopoly as a minor league where the players don't get paid.

Got your wish. Jags just hired Gus Bradly

I don't necessarily dislike him but I get kind a Jack Del Rio feel off of him. Jax has already had that for 11 years. Tom Coughlin, Jack Del Rio, and now Gus. Malarkey was the only offensive coach they have ever had and he never had a chance. 

Jets hired Marty Mornhinweg as their OC....you can now pencil Mike Vick to the Jets!

Jets hired Former Dolphins assistant David Lee as their QB coach.

He is the one who brougth the "WILD CAT" back to life....I guess there is a chance Teblow stays in NY