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I've seen my fair share of Bucs games, and have always admired Ronde. He was never the biggest or fastest corner, but had an insane football IQ. I think he deserves to be in the HOF.  4th all time for non offensive TDs. The only player with +40 INTs and +20 sacks.

Short answer is yes. Ronde is the anti-Tiki!!

I think he'll get in eventually, but not any time soon.  I think it'll be like "oh yeah I remember him, he was good..." when his name comes up.

I think the stats are good enough, but what really impresses me is the 215 consecutive starts. The guy was a hard hitting defender, but never missed a game due to injury his entire career. He also returned 15 turnovers for TDs, which is a pretty sick number.

Zach Thomas has a better argument and I don't think Zach is getting in.

He is a maybe.

i think ronde is a "no" .. not enough . .he wasn't deion .. he wasn't ronnie lott .. he's not getting in

Absolutely a hall of famer. Too much respect from fans, players, & media types not to be. 16 yrs at cornerback in the NFL is saying something.

I like Ronde.  I respect what he has done in this league.  He's been a good pro, but being good or pretty good does not the HOF make.

Borderline.....inflated stats due to playing on all-world defense combined with never missing a game and playing a LONG time.

He was a part of the reason why that defense was so good. He shouldn't be penalized for that, or for not missing games.

Agreed.  They never should have let that Lou Gehrig guy in the baseball hall of fame either.  Look at the teams Gehrig played on, and the fact he played all those consecutive games; he never would have made it if he was on another team.   ::)

Those are pretty high standards you're setting... The greatest shutdown cover corner in history (Sanders) and the greatest defensive back of all time (Lott). While I appreciate you breaking out the 49ers for this exercise, if DBs have to match up with those two, we may not see another DB go into the Hall any time soon.

Ronde Barber has the streak (215 consecutive starts), the consistency in excellent play (5 Pro Bowls), the championship ring, and a statistical accomplishment (40+ ints, 20+ sacks) that no other DB ever achieved.  He may not be a first ballot HOF'er, but I definitely think he deserves to be in there.

It is the hall of fame, not "the hall of very darn good."  Better exercise: name a DB or two that is in the HoF that accomplished less than R Barber. 

I don't think he is a first ballot guy but I can see him going in.

It's the "Hall of Fame," not the "Hall of the Two Best."

He is a first ballot hall of fame player

That's what I was thinking too. Regardless of stats, and he has though too, he's been a very good player for a very long time!!

Honestly it's not even up for debate. He is a lock to get in his first time he is up on the ballot.

That's hilarious.  The guy was a 3-time All-Pro (at a position that gets two slots every year) and he's a first-ballot lock?

This is the same HOF that rejected Cris Carter 5 years in a row, is it not?

Yep. LOCK!

No idea whether he'll get in on the first ballot, or if they let him in at all...but I definitely believe he deserves to be in there.

I will agree with that. 

But the *best* argument that some one ought be in is that he had done more than someone who is already in.

Likewise, the *best* argument not to induct is to list player(s) that did more and aren't in. 

statistical accomplishment (40+ ints, 20+ sacks)...the other ones did not do that.  He holds the NFL record for most QB sacks for a DB and most starts. He has more forced fumbles than either the other two. He has more interception return yards than Lott even though he has less INT's.
Barber made the all 2000's team. We will have to see if he makes the all 2010's after the 2020 season.
Let us not forget the 49ers in the 80's had a pretty damn good defense too...maybe not the Ravens at its peak, but Lott did not have to carry the load by himself.
He deserves to be in the HoF along side Lott and Sanders.

Looks like I was wrong on both counts!

Congrats to both Ronde and Zach.

Wow Spider ... I didn't even remember this thread. Very cool to bring back up.


No offense Fau but no one is Deion including Ronnie Lott. That guy was special and if the HOF had an elite status he would be at the top.