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Everything is a big joke....till its not! He got what he deserved. Walking into a court and not taking things seriously. Good for this judge!

You don't piss off the judge

I disagree and I think 30 days is absurd.  This judge is a joke.

Blame OC for hitting women -- fine, throw him in jail.  But after you'd already sentenced him, a pat on the butt to your own attorney when asked if you're pleased with him gets you a month in JAIL.  JAIL!  WTF?  Embarrassment to the legal system.

He is in court because he physically abused a woman and he then on top of that violated his parole. Then he wants to act like the class clown in the court room and treat this thing like it isn't serious? He was asked a question where a YES or NO answer would have been enough. He should have gotten more than 30 days honestly.

The question itself was silly.  "Are you pleased with your attorney?"

30 days is this judge reaching hard to prove a point.  It's dumb.

You must not have seen or been involved in many court cases. He was in a plea deal so this is common and likely a required question to verify that he agrees with the terms of the deal.

A butt slap was stupid and was making a mockery of the courtroom. Like it or not, courtrooms are held to a different standard of conduct. Butt slaps don't fall into acceptable behavior and I can understand the judge being upset. The court does not have to accept the plea deal by both sides. This is a perfect example of how you should or should not behave.

Without condoning any of the actions that landed him in that courtroom, the judge giving him 30 days in jail, when she was set to accept his plea deal, is patently ridiculous. First, she asked the question, and then she was the one who said he should appreciate the job his lawyer did. Maybe she's never dealt with football players before, as they often slap teammates on the backside when they appreciate the job their teammate did.

I tend to agree with Phishfin, the question was not silly, it was meant to determine whether or not Chad Johnson was in full agreement with the plea agreement. Whether or not CJ was trying to make a mockery of the preceedings is another story.

Also, let's be clear that Chad Johnson didn't get 30 days for the butt tap, he got 30 days for a parole violation which is a very serious offense. 30 days might have been considered lenient.

Obviously the judge thought CJ wasn't taking the situation seriously and decided to ignore the plea agreement and give him 30 days in jail for a parole violation so that he would take it seriously. Whether or not the judge made a mistake in ripping up the plea agreement is up for discussion, but the rest of it really is not.

This just isn't true.  The ruling was already there for no jail time.  Then, she asked him if he was happy with his attorney and he gave him a little tap on the butt to say "yes".  Sure, OC is a scumbag, but he's not the one who made a mockery of the court -- she did.

You have to consider what the delta of the situation was really in the end.

He's going to jail for 30 days because a few 3rd parties laughed at his impromptu expression of relief.

I don't think that's fair.

On its face (30) days for a butt slap seems excessive.  However, he probably received a lot more consideration with the plea deal he was offered as a result of his celebrity status and ability to hire high priced lawyers.  I applaud the Judge for taking this no non-sense attitude, maybe Ocho will reflect about how it's not all about him when he is sitting in that jail cell.  HE created his persona with his antics, now he's gonna have to pay the price.

Again this is a misunderstanding of the court system. When the prosecution and defense come to a plea deal it usually is accepted by the court but the judge in no way has to accept the terms. My understanding was the judge was asking him about his satisifaction, which happens before the judge rules. Slapping someone's butt shows that he is not serious and is making a mokery of the situation.

I disagree. She decided not to accept the plea bargain agreement and go with a ruling that was more in line with the offense. The 30 days was for parole violation, not for a pat on the butt. The pat on the butt just got the plea bargain shot down.

...which is what I find absurd.  Can we all agree that the plea bargain would've been granted had he just said "yes"?

I would agree with you Dave. Can you agree that a slap on the butt in a courtroom is not mature behavior and shows a disrespect for the proceedings?

^ Not necessarily.

I don't think he meant it as disrespect, that's for sure. 

I think the judge had a bug up her ass.

Edit: I can agree that it's not "mature", but I don't feel that maturity level is grounds for imprisonment.

I halfway agree with the first part, but not at all with the second.

On the first part...it may have been completely out of place, but we're talking about a person who regularly slaps another guy's backside during the performance of his chosen profession. Sometimes a player slaps a backside to say "good job," and sometimes to say "come on, let's do better." The butt slap is standard communication for football players. I think Chad might have just slipped...he thought the judge was interpreting his short response as underappreciating his attorney, and he just did what came natural...slapped him on the butt to tell him good job. I don't think he meant any disrespect to the court by that action, and believe that if the bozos who laughed behind him hadn't laughed, the judge wouldn't have given him the jail time.

In and of itself I agree Dave. If we locked away people simply for maturity level jail overpopulation would be even worse. But consider this, he was facing this time for another matter and his behavior showed he didn't take it seriously. He wasn't simply locked away for inappropriate behavior. He had committed other crimes and showed that he did not take the situation he was in very seriously. I would expect most people to agree that he should have been grateful for a plea deal and should have been on his best behavior. Every regular citizen I know who is guilty of VoP was locked away.

I don't believe that CJ meant any disrespect to the judge, but I'm not sure that he wasn't taking the proceedings lightly. Perhaps there was more than just this incident that occurred that got the judge worked up or perhaps she had told CJ already that he needed to take this seriously? I don't know. I would hope this wasn't all that went on. If this was all that happened, I do think it was a bit rash to ignore the plea bargain on that alone, however once the plea bargain was set aside, the 30 days for parole violations sounds about right to me.

This is a bullshit excuse. Football players also regularly cuss, spit at, and hit people violently during the performance of their profession. No one expects that behavior to carry into the outside world. Also, short answers are the expectation and norm in a courtroom. "Yes, your honor" is about all that needs to be said.

And yet it's completely out of place outside his profession. Go ask Mike Golic what he thought about what CJ did. Athletes don't just go around smacking everyone on the butt wherever they are. It's accepted within the profession, but not in other places. Where you are is important. CJ should have known that so I can't excuse it and neither should the judge.

Note to self: Go light on the butt-pats at the next TDMMC get-together. ;)

I just don't think it's the judges job to make a point or determine how serious someone is taking their punishment.  It's their job to oversee justice.

If someone does not take their punishment seriously was justice served?

I think it's a bit of a gray area. Yes judges are there to make sure justice is done, but justice is not just punishment. The ultimate goal of our judicial system is not just inflicting punishment, rather it's modifying the behavior of the individuals. The judges have a part to play in that judicial process. I think what the judge was doing was trying to get CJ to modify his behavoir. Whether or not she accomplished that, I don't know.

I wonder if the fact that this judge was a woman and he was there because he head-butted his wife had anything to do with her short fuse.

I personally don't think he meant any disrespect by the action I also don't think he was doing it to get a laugh.....I find her taking offense to it because a few people laughed a little over the top!!!!!

I highly recommend listening to ESPN legal analyst Lester Munson talk about this with Mike and Mike.

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=9364398

The very last part I thought was extremely important. CJ was there because he had violated his probation which was set by this judge. In effect the whole proceeding was to convince the judge that CJ was taking his probation seriously and that he didn't need to be put in jail, he would fullfill his probation obligations. This was EXACTLY the WRONG thing to do when trying to convince someone you are taking them seriously. She believed his lawyer, but CJ convinced her that wasn't the case.

Maybe she over reacted. I do think he makes a good point in saying that CJ was probably just happy that he wasn't going to jail and expressed it in a VERY poor way. Wouldn't be the first time for him. Poor guy can't get out of his own way.

I just saw this from the judge "It's not the first time he's behaved that way in my courtroom,". I think this is only a small part of the bigger issue of CJ not taking these proceedings seriously and the judge thought he needed a few days in jail to reflect on it. She could have sentenced him to up to a year in jail for him not appearing before his probation officer for the last 3 months. CJ has a BIG problem and it's not this judge, it's his general lack of respect for the entire judicial process. I don't think he got what he deserved, but I think he got what he got because of past mistakes, not because of this one tiny slip up. That's what people are missing.

He's not on a football field, he is in a courtroom. Should he have given the judge or his lawyer a "Gatorade Shower" as well to show his appreciation. Ya know since that's what football players do!  ::)

YES! But he didn't "just say yes".....he became the class clown and it came back to bite him. He got what he deserved. He is in a court room because he headbutted his wife then violated parole. This wasn't a parking violation. He commited 2 serious crimes and then acted like a child in court. He got what he deserved.  I just hope they make him serve all 30 days and don't let him out after like 4.

Well after apologizing to the Judge, again, and serving (7) days, Ocho was released from jail today.  Anyone wanna bet on whether he will make it through his probation period without getting into trouble again??

Now this I have a problem with

Wish they would have made him serve the whole 30 days but I got no big problem with this. The message was sent, act like a clown in court and you will go to jail. Do it again and he will serve his full term that's for damn sure.

And there is almost no chance he will make it through his probation clean. He will do something stupid!

Just want to make sure I've got your criminal psychology formula down here...

* In 35 years of life, Chad has been arrested once.
* He made the mistake of failing to report to his probation officer...once
* His one mistake resulted in a highly publicized and embarrassing situation in the media

Despite only one arrest in his life, and one probation mistake, you feel there is "almost no chance he will make it through his probation clean."

Hmmm...

Tell ya what, MikeO, I challenge that statement with an old school traditional TDMMC "pride bet." 

If Chad proves you right and gets in any more trouble before his probation runs out, I will change my signature line directly under my name to read: "MikeO is an amazing judge of character." I will then wear that tag for one calendar month.

If Chad proves you wrong and makes it through his probation without "doing something stupid," you change the signature line under your name to read: "I really don't know everything." You will then wear that tag for one calendar month.

So, step up and accept this "pleasant and good-natured little wager," or admit that your comment was voiced from the deepest regions of your rectal cavity.

Can't bet someone who has the facts wrong. The first fact you mentioned is incorrect. NOT his first arrest. Chad was arrested for domestic battery in Feb 2000. Chad pled "no contest" and the court found him guilty. He was sentenced to 3 years probation and 45 days in jail. His lawyer struck a deal to avoid court time if Chad did 12 months of domestic violence counseling and 30 days of graffiti removal.  AND (here is where your 2nd fact is wrong)....Chad didn't do any of the counseling never showed up and blew off his graffiti work violating his probation so the judge tacked more time onto his punishments.

So before you come up with some lame bet  (which I won't accept anyway) you might want to know what the hell you are betting on and have the damn facts correct!

And here we go again.  SunstroEK vs MikeO.  Lemme turn on my surround sound and grab a cold one.

^^^ Don't you have some imaginary papers to grade or an imaginary boat trip to take, Shand-lark?


Did a quick search for Chad's legal history...wonder why the first one didn't pop?  I do see it now, so I admit my mistake. (You should try that one of these times. it's actually rather therapeutic).

I still think you're wrong about what happens "in the future" though, which is what the bet was for. I do understand you not wanting to back up your predictions with something tangible...I'm sure that tag would have been unbearable for you.  That said, I'll still remind you of your "almost no chance" statement once Chad has made it past his probation.

I gotta agree with MikeO on this one. I believe that Chad actually missed going to his probation officer 3 straight months before landing in jail this time. That's not 1 slipup, that's blowing it off entirely. He was LUCKY to be getting off without jail time and the judge didn't like it when he took it casually and decided that he wasn't getting off that easy. I'm all for giving guys a break that deserve it, but blowing off your probation officer for 3 straight months does not qualify as deserving it.

You need to focus on the task at hand, which is defending yourself against MikeO's onslaught.

Everyone is missing the biggest picture here.  For a judge standard, Johnson's was actually pretty darned cute.

(http://cdn.breitbart.com/mediaserver/Breitbart/Breitbart-Sports/2013/06/11/buttslap%20judge.jpg)

You need to focus on creating a fake persona that falls within your intellectual wheelhouse., like maybe a janitor or dishwasher.

MikeO pointed out an error I made, and I admitted my error and moved on. Quit trying to dump your EK garbage in my front yard...

With that said, the point was what Chad will do for the remainder of his probation period. I don't think he'll get in more trouble...and MikeO does. Since we're talking about project the future actions of a person, not what he's done in the past, only the future will determine whether my underlying point (Chad staying out of trouble from this point forward) is accurate or not.


I'm sorry, Mainer, but that woman looks like she has about 20 layers of spackle on her mug. Can we get a non-glamour shots photo to consider? ;D

He didn't just point out your error.  He took it and shoved it so far up your anal orifice, you'll be shitting the truth for a month.  Eat your crow and humble pie and shut your trap.

Locking it up.  Kids play nice.