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I'm curious what other fans think we should do,carry 2 or 3 QB's...

My take....I'm fine with keeping 3,and it has less to do with Pat Devlin being good or bad.More to do with our O-line,and as injuries mount the quality of our depth to replace them is thin,not great IMO. 3 QB's that have been in the system,and know the system,are a nice plus. (even though it doesn't really mean shit...)

yes yes yes yes yes yes yes.  All day.  YES!

You carry 2 and you'll find yourself in a situation where you're scrambling for David Garrard to start week 8 after our O-line gets both QB's killed in less than 2 months.

Is Gararrd any worse than Moore or Devlin? I say carry 2 and open up another roster spot and roll the dice everyone stays healthy

If your 3rd string QB is starting a game, it doesn't probably matter if it someone you picked up midseason or had since training camp....you are not going to the superbowl.  

There are reasons to have three QBs.  Your third string QB is a rookie and you want to see if you can develop him into a starter (or at least a reliable backup) or your third string QB can do things besides play QB - such as tight end or punt protector (Tebow) or your third string QB is pretty decent to the point you have a hard time choosing who is #2 and who is #3.  

I was going to post pretty much the same thing. I think if they are planning on Devlin being #2 next year then keep him. Otherwise there really isn't a big need to hold the roster spot.

^^ then why not cut Matt Moore?

Personally, I think you need to keep both because (a) yes, Devlin and Moore are better than Garrard or John Beck, and (b) Moore may move on and Devlin may become the backup next year.

I don't think they need that roster spot THAT badly that its worth the risk.  Make a decision, coach.

HELL YES!!!!

Why help out any of our rivals like the Bills and Jets, who would probably scoop up Moore or Devlin in a heartbeat. 

We still have 4 games against these guys and winning all 4 would sure help our chances of making the playoffs.

Worst reason in the world. You do what you can to make your team better.  You don't keep a player b/c he might help another team.

If the Jets or Bills want Moore or Devlin....they can have either. By all means. If they are starting either that is a PLUS for Miami! Seriously!!

If it meant somehow having a decent TE or other player of need, I would say drop Devlin and move to 2 QBs. They could always put Garrard on notice. From what I remember he was doing pretty well on Hard Knocks before his injury.

After watching tonight I say keep 3. All 3 have value. More value than the 54th man on the roster.

It's always a nice question to ponder, until the starter gets injured. Does anybody remember Henne & Pennington getting hurt in the same game before?

If Both QB's get hurt who cares? Seriously....Devlin isn't going to "save the season". If both the 1st and 2nd string QB's get hurt and are out the season is over and lets lose them all to get a higher draft pick anyway.

Depends. If Devlin has to play 6 games then yeah the season is a bust. But what if you need your 3rd string QB to play 1 game? 1 game may be the difference between Miami making the playoffs or not. I'd rather have Devlin to put in there then pick a guy up for a week and expect him to win it for you.

Its kinda a moot point the third QB would be good for one game if both others went down. If just the starter went down we would bring someone in that week making the third still the third.

And if both the starter and the backup get hurt in the same week or even lets say back to back weeks where the 3rd string guy has got to be ready to play in one week? You think bringing someone in and showing them the offense, they are gonna be ready to lead the team to a victory in one week? There's no question that Devlin is small insurance, but it's not like the 54th player on the team is gonna be a HUGE contributor either. Probably be a special teams guy at best. I think having Devlin around as the 3rd QB is more important then having another guy for kick coverage. How often are kicks gonna be returned with Caleb and Fields anyway?

If you did get thin at another position, it's easier to bring in a player to play another position besides QB and he's probably not gonna have the same effect on the outcome of the game that the QB does. It's a tough call, but I still think Devlin has more value than keeping one more position player.

I can't believe we are having this conversation.  Why would you want to have only 2 possible options at the most important position on the field in favor of having a 6th WR or a 9th LB or 4th TE? 

Are you kidding me?

Depends on the quality of the last couple of guys on the final cutdown.  If the team has such depth that even the guy on the bubble is considered quality or high potential, then I could see going with just 2 QBs.  But since Devlin knows the system well and could at least get by in an emergency, I'd be just fine with keeping 3 QBs with him being the third. 

My final thought on it is this...We're not the run the ball and play good defense team we've been since Marino retired.Since Philbin came in,we've made the QB a priority,important position.It's not like we have great tandem of running backs to hand the ball too,and say ok guy's we're gonna win this one running it 35 times,control the clock,and play good defense.

I see both sides of it personally...

The 9th LB is never going to play.

There is no reason NOT to keep Devlin.  ESPECIALLY after seeing his play last night.

Because unless something crazy happens a 3rd QB never plays.

Devlin is practice squad eligible anyway so this whole thing is silly. Miami can cut him, hope nobody signs him and hide him there. If someone signs him so be it....find another QB for the practice squad. Not like Devlin is the next Montana for pete sakes!

They contribute on special teams. On the field a lot


He missed a lot of wide open guys last night. Lots of plays left on the field

Never said Devlin was Montana, but I think there is value to a 3rd string QB.  Why do we all carry health insurance, etc?  Incase "something crazy happens."  Remember 2007?  Remember 1-15?  When we were playing our 3rd string QB most of the season?  Wouldn't it be nice if that guy was on the team already, rather than a random schmoe that no one else wanted?

Hoping no one else picks him up so you can stash him on the practice squad is a pipe dream when you have other teams working out John Beck and Matt Leinart.  Teams are looking for a QB. 

If its me, Devlin is worth keeping.

Let the #8 LB play special teams.  Anyone can run down the field during kickoffs and tackle a guy.

Obviously you've never tried this.  ;)

Anyone can run down a kickoff and make a tackle....that is a very naive statement!

If Miami is playing a 3rd string QB....waive the white flag. Period. No team is 3 deep with QUALITY at QB! Even if you are only asking them to start 1 or 2 games, its over. No chance to win those games.

There is a reason why most teams in the NFL carry 3 QBs.

It's not like Tannehill is Favre or Manning, and a 3rd-string QB that already knows the system can be the difference between winning a home game against BUF or CAR, and losing that game.

My problem with this is that if we're down to our 3rd QB, we are screwed, regardless.  It's not worth using up a roster spot to prevent extreme disaster, when all you're going to benefit is moderate disaster.

It's all about snaps.  It's hard to justify keeping a guy on the roster that, by design, will be in for zero snaps.

My argument is simple - I'd rather have 2 layers of insurance at the MOST important position on the team, than 9 layers of insurance at linebacker.

I just don't understand who would be so important to keep that you'd want to lose that insurance policy.  Screwed or not, maybe its just one game, maybe its 1 half, but what happens if you burn 2 guys in a half and then you need Mike Wallace (or whoever) under center for the rest of the game? 

I'd want that 3rd guy. 

I went through the roster and found 22 guys to cut, and none of them were Pat Devlin.  Of course, I'm just a schmoe.  But it can be done.

Its far more likely that Keenan Davis makes it to the practice squad than Pat Devlin.  Devlin, if released, WILL get scooped up by someone. 

It would be a huge mistake, IMO.

^^^Devlin isn't insurance though because he isn't any good. If he is playing we lose. If we pick up a guy to play in a pinch we lose. Where is the insurance?

And so what, does that hurt our season any if Devlin is gone? Tannehill is a Top 10 pick who in his early 20's its not like Devlin has a future in Miami anyway. Someone else will cut a QB of equal or better talent and we will scoop them up and put them on the practice squad.

So, clearly the difference is our varying opinion of Devlin.  You think he's garbage.  I think he's servicable in a pinch.

A lot of this is about snaps.  Devlin is designed to play 0 snaps.  A backup to a backup linebacker can still help out on special teams.

There is no future for Devlin on this team if you believe in Tannehill, so what's the point?  If he's your QB because Tanehill is hurt, you're screwed anyway.

Devlin is not on the team to eventually replace Tannehill; he's on the team to eventually replace Moore.

Of all the fanbases in the league, you'd think Dolphins fans would be the most acutely aware of the value of a good backup.  I mean, why sign Earl Morrall when you have Bob Griese?  Furthermore, wouldn't you like to be on the PHI side of an A.J. Feeley or Kevin Kolb trade, instead of the MIA/ARI side?

Philbin just keeps on making all the right choices. (Right is defined by doing the same thing that I would.)

The only head scratcher for me is Don Jones. Really? Did he play a down in preseason? I don't think I ever saw him in the game or make a play. I don't mind losing McNutt or Bumphis, I wasn't impressed with either of them, but I thought Tyms was a better receiver and would have kept him over Jones.

I don't think Devlin would make it to the practice squad. If I'm New York or Buffalo, I'd claim him. He's as good as if not better then what they are going to be putting on the field come next Sunday.

Why would either claim him? They invested a 2nd round pick in Geno Smith who is there week 1 starter and Sanchez isn't dead. He will be OK in a couple weeks.

Buffalo has EJ Manuel who they invested a high first round pick in and might even start Week 1 (Week 2 at the latest) what do they need Devlin for? Devlin is no better than any backup they have and has no future there!

Just remember people, if Miami thought highly of Devlin they wouldn't have gone out of there way to pay Matt Moore what they thought of this offseason.

Smith isn't ready to start (3 Int's and safety in his last pre season game) and Sanchez is not the future. Is Sanchez gonna be happy as the backup? If he doesn't end up starting most of this year (and maybe even if he does), Sanchez and his contract are gone. Devlin would be a better choice to backup Smith next year and Devlin is better than either of the other 2 QB's they kept.

I disagree, I think he's better than any of their backups. Remember that just last week they were considering bringing in John Beck. Devlin is better then Beck.

And yet Miami kept Devlin on the 53. Maybe it's Moore who should be worried about his roster spot.

^^the Devlin love has gone to a crazy level with some of you.. Hes a #3 qb who's ceiling is to be a career backup. You act like if he was cut teams would be tripping over themselves to get him. He just isn't any good.

I don't know what you guys are talking about. It's more than obvious that Moore is better than Devlin.

No one said that every team in the league would be after him. I said a couple would like to have him as a backup. He's better then you are giving him credit for.

Not to me it's not. I've seen nothing from Moore in the last year to indicate he's capable of leading this offense better than Devlin.

If you would have put more on the nine and then later the fifteen yard line we would have left with more than three points. I used to hope Devlin would be good but I don't know. But I do know having Moore on the team helps Philbin sleep at night.

That last game Devlin played every Quarter reminded me of our offense of regimes past cpl good plays send in kicker. Get near red zone send in Kicker. I think Caleb played well.

No he isn't or else Matt Moore wouldn't be here

For now. His days in Miami are numbered. Wouldn't shock me at all to see Devlin become the #2 and see Moore get cut. He has yet to look good running the Dolphins offense since Sherman took it over.

I will believe it when I see it. I really will. I don't think Devlin is a #2 QB in the NFL.

The question is not if Devlin is a #2, it's if Moore still is.

I think the more important question for Dolphin fans to worry about is Tanhill worthy of the #1 spot.  He might, he shows some promise, but it is hardly a certain that you have a franchise QB. 

That's an entirely different debate. If Tannehill ISN'T the answer, well either is Moore or Devlin  and those 2 won't take his spot moving forward long-term.

Then its about drafting another QB and such. Totally different debate than what we are having here

I'm leaving that worry for Dolphins opponents this year. I'm convinced that he has the most upside of any QB that Miami has had since Dan retired. We've already seen everything you need to see out of a QB. We've seen him throw the long ball, we've seen him throw with accuracy, we've seen him throw with velocity, we've seen him throw with touch, we've seen him thread the needle, we've seen him scramble, we've seen him play mistake free, we've seen him audible, we've seen him command the huddle, we've seen him run the 2 minute offense, we've seen him win a game in the 4th quarter and all of that happened as a true rookie (not first year starting, first year in the league) and with below average play makers around him. There's nothing he can't do. All that he needs to do now is become consistent at it. That may take a couple years or it may never happen, we'll just have to wait and find out, but I think it's clear we have a franchise QB (one that's good enough to win a championship). The only thing that isn't clear yet to me is whether or not he will be an elite QB (top 5 in the league). You don't have to have an elite QB to win championships, but it sure does help.

Devlin not at practice today. Lots of speculation but no official word as to why

Neither was John Denney.  Maybe they cut him too ::)

nobody mentioned the word "cut"

I knew that would be your response.

In a thread about cutting Devlin, a post that cryptically states "Devlin isn't at practice today, no one knows why" is insinuating that he might be getting cut.

And you know it.

Uh, no. I was thinking injury or trade actually! And if injured maybe go to IR to open up a roster spot.

Better taking another mind-reading class!

So maybe John Denney got traded!

Is that really any more realistic?

No his wife had a child today that's why he missed practice

Still no word on Devlin

Devlin has an ankle injury of some sort

11-5, one and done in the playoffs.

The D will get us there,The O will fail in the playoffs.I also think we will lose to The Bills once.

Is this supposed to be in the Phins season predictions thread?

QB Austin Davis was signed to the practice squad. Devlin still injured and Fins want insurance if he has to go to IR at some point