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Title: Dolphins in the National Media
Post by: Dave Gray on September 16, 2013, 04:11:12 pm
I hate that we're 0-2, yet it seems that all anyone wants to talk about on a national level is the Giants and Redskins.  Also, Capernick, Luck, and Wilson are all over the place, but Tannehill is outplaying them all.

Are you guys seeing any national stories about us?


Title: Re: Dolphins in the National Media
Post by: yuppi on September 16, 2013, 04:16:21 pm
Idk y fans are concerned with National media.
You heard anything about the Chiefs? They're 2-0 too. You gotta prove you matter.  You know something about those 4 QB's you named that Tannehill can't say?

They all made the playoffs last year. 2 of them won their Division. The National media likes a winner and will follow him.


Title: Re: Dolphins in the National Media
Post by: Phishfan on September 16, 2013, 04:41:40 pm
It only 2-0 (wins listed first Dave) so I'm not going to expect too much as of yet. 16 weeks does not sound long but there really is a long way to go in this season.


Title: Re: Dolphins in the National Media
Post by: Landshark on September 16, 2013, 05:15:26 pm
It only 2-0 (wins listed first Dave) so I'm not going to expect too much as of yet. 16 weeks does not sound long but there really is a long way to go in this season.

Not to mention that the last two times the Dolphins started off at 2-0, they failed to make the playoffs.


Title: Re: Dolphins in the National Media
Post by: Dave Gray on September 16, 2013, 05:15:26 pm
It only 2-0 (wins listed first Dave)

Yeah, I know.  I think I started my thought about the Giants and then re-evaluated and forgot to update the record.

Anyway....

You heard anything about the Chiefs? They're 2-0 too. You gotta prove you matter.  You know something about those 4 QB's you named that Tannehill can't say?

They all made the playoffs last year. 2 of them won their Division. The National media likes a winner and will follow him.

I disagree that it's about winners.  The Jets are horrible and are always horrible.  But they are a national story every year.  It's more than just the 2-0 record.  It's that we're playing well to get there.  If Indy came back to win, don't you think that Luck would be a big topic of conversation today?  Yet, it's been 2 years and Tannehill is never mentioned.

It doesn't really bother me that much, except I'd like to hear about my team when listening to the radio or watching ESPN.  It's like the media has a love affair with players and whether they do well or not doesn't matter -- the player is the story.  Now, it's RGIII.


Title: Re: Dolphins in the National Media
Post by: Phishfan on September 16, 2013, 05:23:13 pm
They just got some brief props on Around the Horn.


Title: Re: Dolphins in the National Media
Post by: MikeO on September 16, 2013, 06:16:46 pm
I don't even watch the national media much anymore. I stick with the local radio stations to get the best Fins talk/info. WQAM and WFTL whenever I can as well as SIRIUS/XM NFL Radio. ESPN is horrible, it really is. FOX Sports1 is slightly better but still sucks. The NBC and CBS sports channels are just ok.

NFL Network some of the shows are decent but some others suck.  I like it now because it is going to be fun to watch Jamie Dukes and Heath Evans have to give us some props at some point.


Title: Re: Dolphins in the National Media
Post by: Spider-Dan on September 16, 2013, 07:09:23 pm
Tannehill was a #8 pick and didn't make the playoffs last year.

Luck and RG3 were superstars on horrible teams, and they made the playoffs.  Wilson came out of nowhere to tie the rookie record for TDs in a season, en route to a playoff win.  So those guys have earned a cycle of having their names ring out.

If Tannehill wins a playoff game this year, you'll hear all four of them mentioned in the same breath in 2014.


Title: Re: Dolphins in the National Media
Post by: suck for luck on September 16, 2013, 08:47:07 pm
Miami just doesn't get any play. Mostly because they have sucked for so long and because they don't have any media darlings. They were getting a little attention today as one of the few unbeatens. And like it or not Sapp seems to have hitched his star to the fins wagon lol.


Title: Re: Dolphins in the National Media
Post by: Pappy13 on September 16, 2013, 09:52:28 pm
Tannehill was a #8 pick and didn't make the playoffs last year.

Luck and RG3 were superstars on horrible teams, and they made the playoffs.  Wilson came out of nowhere to tie the rookie record for TDs in a season, en route to a playoff win.  So those guys have earned a cycle of having their names ring out.

If Tannehill wins a playoff game this year, you'll hear all four of them mentioned in the same breath in 2014.
If Miami has the success that those teams did last year and Miami stays in contention for the playoffs, Miami will be getting lots of media attention. Not just Tannehill, but Wallace, Wheeler, Ellerbe, Jordan, Sturgis and Miller all make good stories. Not to mention Joe Philbin and the new uniforms. The 2-0 is a nice start but they really need to win at least 1 of the next 3 to maintain it. Do that and they will have beaten 2 potential playoffs teams in the their first 5 games and they will be a hot topic.


Title: Re: Dolphins in the National Media
Post by: Tenshot13 on September 16, 2013, 10:21:42 pm
Wheeler just got props from Gruden as his "Gruden Grinder" during the MNF halftime show.


Title: Re: Dolphins in the National Media
Post by: CF DolFan on September 17, 2013, 08:07:52 am
It doesn't really bother me but I would have to say if the Jet's were 2-0 they would be touted as Super Bowl contenders by everyone.

Sometimes it isn't all bad to fall under the radar. I'd say enjoy it because if we continue to have success it will change and everything will be scrutinized again.


Title: Re: Dolphins in the National Media
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on September 17, 2013, 10:11:28 am
It doesn't really bother me but I would have to say if the Jet's were 2-0 they would be touted as Super Bowl contenders by everyone.



Not everyone, just the Jets players and Rex.  But if the Jets were 2-0, they would have beaten last years division winner.  Part of the reason the Dolphins aren't getting much play at 2-0 is they are 2-0 against teams that nobody considers very good.  Beat Atlanta and they will get noticed.  NE isn't getting much attention either other than the continued prediction they will win the division, but aren't a serious contender for the playoffs. 


Title: Re: Dolphins in the National Media
Post by: Doc-phin on September 17, 2013, 12:31:50 pm
Beat Atlanta and they will get noticed. 

I agree.  It is good to go 2-0 and better when it is on the road, but the teams we beat weren't good enough to define us by.  Atlanta has been good for long enough and has enough talent that beating them would be enough to consider a change of mindset about our team.

So if we beat the Falcons we would be 3-0 with 2 road wins and a win against a consistent winner.  That is enough to get people talking about us.


Title: Re: Dolphins in the National Media
Post by: Thundergod on September 17, 2013, 04:11:23 pm
Idk y fans are concerned with National media.
You heard anything about the Chiefs? They're 2-0 too. You gotta prove you matter.  You know something about those 4 QB's you named that Tannehill can't say?

They all made the playoffs last year. 2 of them won their Division. The National media likes a winner and will follow him.

This

I disagree that it's about winners.  The Jets are horrible and are always horrible.  But they are a national story every year.  It's more than just the 2-0 record.  It's that we're playing well to get there.  If Indy came back to win, don't you think that Luck would be a big topic of conversation today?  Yet, it's been 2 years and Tannehill is never mentioned.

It doesn't really bother me that much, except I'd like to hear about my team when listening to the radio or watching ESPN.  It's like the media has a love affair with players and whether they do well or not doesn't matter -- the player is the story.  Now, it's RGIII.

IMHO Miami is a boring team, and has been since Marino left. No real superstars, a bunch of good guys, and a WR turned QB that needs a bit more on his plate than a couple games.

The Jets a few years ago built a team with a bunch of FA that included Tomlinson, Sanchez was the "Sanchise", and fat Rex was always very vocal, not to mention they had a nice playoff run. Adding Tebow last year kept them in the news.

The Colts would have been covered/are covered because of Luck (for good reason) and he has a nice resume' of comebacks for being a young QB. So yeah, it would have happened.


It doesn't really bother me that much, except I'd like to hear about my team when listening to the radio or watching ESPN.  It's like the media has a love affair with players and whether they do well or not doesn't matter -- the player is the story.  Now, it's RGIII.

You're right. It is annoying.


Title: Re: Dolphins in the National Media
Post by: Dave Gray on September 17, 2013, 04:21:06 pm
What about the Jets or Cowboys?  Why are they always relevant?  If they win, the story is how good they are.  If they lose, the story is about how bad they are.

I think it has much more to do with popular, big market teams, than it does quality of play.


Title: Re: Dolphins in the National Media
Post by: Diehard_Dolfan on September 17, 2013, 11:28:21 pm

Are you guys seeing any national stories about us?

I can't remember who it was but a regular on NFL Network picked us as his team to go all the way in the AFC.  He said he likes what we're doing and that the defense is solid enough to make a strong run.  He also said that the AFC looks pretty bad other than Miami and Denver.   He said other stuff but I can't really remember as when he said Miami was his favorite in the AFC I was in shock! LOL

It was either Darren Woodson, Darren Sharper or Rodney Harrison... those three look so much alike to me.


Title: Re: Dolphins in the National Media
Post by: Landshark on September 17, 2013, 11:36:43 pm
I can't remember who it was but a regular on NFL Network picked us as his team to go all the way in the AFC.  He said he likes what we're doing and that the defense is solid enough to make a strong run.  He also said that the AFC looks pretty bad other than Miami and Denver.   He said other stuff but I can't really remember as when he said Miami was his favorite in the AFC I was in shock! LOL

It was either Darren Woodson, Darren Sharper or Rodney Harrison... those three look so much alike to me.

It wasn't Harrison. He said the Dolphins might be able to overtake the Patriots in the AFC East but I never heard him mention about them going all the way


Title: Re: Dolphins in the National Media
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on September 18, 2013, 10:03:47 am


I think it has much more to do with popular, big market teams, than it does quality of play.

That has a lot to do with it.  There aren't a lot of Dolphin fans (or Dolphin haters for that matter) outside the Miami area.  OTOH, Steelers, Jets, Cowboys, etc. have national interest. 


Title: Re: Dolphins in the National Media
Post by: Phishfan on September 18, 2013, 11:11:43 am
Are there really that many Jets fans? I can agree that I've met Dallas & Pittsburgh fans everywhere. I have only known very few people to admit to being a Jets fan.


Title: Re: Dolphins in the National Media
Post by: MikeO on September 18, 2013, 11:14:02 am
Are there really that many Jets fans? I can agree that I've met Dallas & Pittsburgh fans everywhere. I have only known very few people to admit to being a Jets fan.

NYC. Largest media market in the world.


Title: Re: Dolphins in the National Media
Post by: masterfins on September 18, 2013, 11:53:08 am
There aren't a lot of Dolphin fans (or Dolphin haters for that matter) outside the Miami area. 


There used to be, but its been so long since the 70's Super Bowl wins, and the years that Marino was in his prime.  Some have died, some are in hiding, and some have moved on.  A couple years of playoff visits and the fair weather fans will be back out wearing the colors.


Title: Re: Dolphins in the National Media
Post by: Phishfan on September 18, 2013, 12:48:22 pm
NYC. Largest media market in the world.

And that equates to fans outside NYC how?


Title: Re: Dolphins in the National Media
Post by: MikeO on September 18, 2013, 01:47:18 pm
And that equates to fans outside NYC how?

Really?  You don't see how this works? NYC has the most people, its the biggest media market. So the Networks play to the larger markets and those fans. Give them what they want, cover their teams.

NY, Chicago, Philly, LA, Dallas....teams in those cities will always get extra attention by the networks because those cities have the most people (ie most potential viewers).


Title: Re: Dolphins in the National Media
Post by: Phishfan on September 18, 2013, 02:03:55 pm
Really?  You don't see how this works? NYC has the most people, its the biggest media market. So the Networks play to the larger markets and those fans. Give them what they want, cover their teams.

NY, Chicago, Philly, LA, Dallas....teams in those cities will always get extra attention by the networks because those cities have the most people (ie most potential viewers).

And this has absolutely nothing to do with my question which was about meeting Jets fans in various parts of the country.


Title: Re: Dolphins in the National Media
Post by: Spider-Dan on September 18, 2013, 02:04:09 pm
Really?  You don't see how this works? NYC has the most people, its the biggest media market. So the Networks play to the larger markets and those fans. Give them what they want, cover their teams.
Houston is the 4th most populous city in the US, Boston is the 21st.  Does this mean the Astros/Texans/Rockets get more coverage than the Red Sox/Patriots/Celtics?  Hell no.

But maybe when you said "has the most people" you exclusively meant has the biggest media market?  Fine.  SF is the #6 media market, Boston is #7.  So surely we hear more about the Warriors than the Celtics, right?  Again, hell no.

Here is the hierarchy for US sports media:

1) The Northeast (NYC, Boston, Philly, sometimes DC)
2) LA
3) Texas
4) Great Lakes (IL/MI/OH)
5) Other coast cities (SF/Seattle/Miami)
6) everyone else


Title: Re: Dolphins in the National Media
Post by: Brian Fein on September 18, 2013, 02:34:53 pm
I long for the day I hear Kansas City Royals news on ESPN.


Title: Re: Dolphins in the National Media
Post by: Landshark on September 18, 2013, 04:23:17 pm
I long for the day I hear Kansas City Royals news on ESPN.

That hasn't happened since George Brett hung up his spikes.


Title: Re: Dolphins in the National Media
Post by: el diablo on September 18, 2013, 06:40:59 pm
I long for the day I hear Kansas City Royals news on ESPN.

Just like I long for the 20 minute intro for the Braves. But as long as there is life in the Yankees playoff chances......then again they would just replace that with a "what went wrong" segment. Its nice to hope, though.


Title: Re: Dolphins in the National Media
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on September 18, 2013, 08:35:57 pm
Are there really that many Jets fans? I can agree that I've met Dallas & Pittsburgh fans everywhere. I have only known very few people to admit to being a Jets fan.

Jets @ Mia is almost a home game for the the Jets. 

But as I said there aren't that many Dolphin fans or Dolphin haters.  There are plenty of people who hate the Jets. 


Title: Re: Dolphins in the National Media
Post by: Phishfan on September 19, 2013, 03:14:38 pm
Jets @ Mia is almost a home game for the the Jets. 


I have been to a Jets @ Dolphins game and while there were noticeable numbers of Jets fans there, saying it is almost a home game (at least from my personal experience) is quite an exaggeration. That would imply there was at least an even split I would think and that isn't the case.


Title: Re: Dolphins in the National Media
Post by: Spider-Dan on September 19, 2013, 08:02:49 pm
NE fans love to say that NYJ @ MIA is like an extra home game for NYJ.


Title: Re: Dolphins in the National Media
Post by: Landshark on September 19, 2013, 09:14:24 pm
I have been to a Jets @ Dolphins game and while there were noticeable numbers of Jets fans there, saying it is almost a home game (at least from my personal experience) is quite an exaggeration. That would imply there was at least an even split I would think and that isn't the case.

I've been to a Dolphins/Jets game as well and I'd say about 20% to 30% Jets fans are there.  And they are loud. 


Title: Re: Dolphins in the National Media
Post by: Brian Fein on September 20, 2013, 10:05:55 am
Jets @ Mia is almost a home game for the the Jets. 
Wait to see who the "home team" is when the Dolphins play in Jersey...