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Tom Coughlin-  The 2011 Giants were mediocre all year, then suddenly turned up the heat in December and played brilliantly throughout the playoffs.  They slid back to mediocrity last season, and have given up 115 points in three games, including a 38-0 shellacking at the hands of the Carolina Panthers.  Coughlin's military style camps are constantly bemoaned by players, and at one point, he was voted the NFL coach that players least want to play for

Leslie Frazier- With the young weapons the Vikings have on offense, you would think they would be better than that 0-3 record they currently sport.  Especially when one of the teams is the Cleveland Browns.  But alas, there they are.

Mike Tomlin- Ever since that pass from Tim Tebow to Demariyus Thomas knocked the Steelers out of the 2011 playoffs, nothing has gone right in Pittsburgh.  The defense is aging and crumbling like an old building.

Mike Shannahan- He's been widely criticized for how he handled RGIII and has been blamed as the root cause for the quarterback's knee injury.  RGIII has improved since week one despite missing all of the preseason.  But is it too late to play catch up now that the Skins are in a 0-3 hole?

Greg Schiano- It's only his second year as Bucs coach and they are coming off a season where they improved.  But they lost a game they should've won easily in week one.  Revis wants out, and word is getting out that Schiano is very abraisive and not a likeable guy

Gus Bradley- I know it's only his first year in Jacksonville but the Jaguars have not come close to even putting up a fight in any of the games they've played.


Updated title. Lets see how many I got right.

I think the Tom Coughlin one is a joke. 8 years with the Giants and 2 Super Bowl Wins. He's only missed the playoffs three times.  I get people being disappointed but that's a bit ridiculous. Even for New York.

Moronic list.   

When was the last time the Steelers fired a coach?  Mike Tomlin's job is safe.  Plus the only reason you listed -- an aging defense is on the GM not the coach.  Pitts is not NE, the coach doesn't make the personal decisions.

Tom Coughlin is a two time superbowl winner, he isn't getting fired even if the Giants go 0-16.  That would put him on the hot seat for 2014, but he isn't getting fired this year.  The year Coughlin was voted least favorite coach, Bill Belichick came in third -- popularity and ability to rack up wins are not correlated.

Gus Bradley - first year coaches rarely get fired.  Unless the team is 1-15 or 0-16 he won't be fired.   





 

You know how the NFL is.  It's a "What have you done for me lately" league.  Bill Callahan was let go in Oakland one year after a Super Bowl appearance.  Hell, Jimmy Johnson was fired in Dallas immediately after winning two Super Bowls.  If the Giants have a dismal season, seeing Tom Coughlin get the ax is not as far fetched as you may think

Tom Coughlin is NOT on the hot seat that is laughable on every level. The owners love him up there

Let's see how much they love him if he loses the locker room.  That could happen to any one of the teams/coaches I listed above.  Although from what I see, the atmosphere is ripe for it to happen in Tampa

You don't know much about the Giants do ya? Coughlin isn't losing the locker room! The man has won 2 Super Bowls in 5 years and is with an organization that rarely fires their head coach and the QB loves him and the players love him. He is coaching there until he wants to retire.

Tampa is a different story but most of the rest of the list is laughable too. Like Tomlin, seriously...come on! Hot Seat? lol..that's a joke! who is losing the locker room? You are pulling that out of thin air. Seriously, you have nothing to back it up

Pittsburgh has had 3 head coaches TOTAL since 1969....now they will FIRE Tomlin after 1 rough season? lol, you are lost on this issue!

Tampas coach looks lost???

...after that..maybe Minnesota 's coach and Shanahan's time might be near in Washington.

The NFL is 32 unique teams.

Gaints and Steeler don't operate in the same knee jerk reaction mode as Oakland or the Cowboys

You're right.  I have nothing to back it up.  It's early in the season.  And so far, I'm not saying that ANY of these coaches will be fired.  But the teams they coach are all 0-3, and are playing like crap.  Meanwhile, Fat Rex's Jets are 2-1 and the heat on his seat just got turned down from boiling to simmering.

Could have stopped right there!

Maybe I should enroll you in Early Speculation 101

All you did was list the 0-3 coaches with zero rational. 

Caughlin is not on the hot seat, the team is off to a bad start.  And Eli is not on the verge of getting cut either. 

Rex isn't off the hot seat because he won two games.  He needs to have a great season to keep his job.  The coach of the Steelers merely needs to win a couple of games this season to keep his. 

Speculation would have rational behind it. You have none. Like I said, Pittsburgh has had 3 coaches TOTAL since 1969...if you think their is "speculation" they would fire Tomlin (who has 2 super bowl appearances and one SB trophy in recent years) because he had 1 bad year in which his team has a lot of injuries....you are nuts! You aren't speculating anything. You are making stuff up out of thin air with no basis to back it up. It's foolish and laughable.

Tom Coughlin is beloved by the Mara and Tish family's that own the Giants. BELOVED! He could go 0-16 and he wouldn't get fired. Tom's brother just died last week so try coaching with that on your plate too. This year could be a disaster for the Giants but no way in hell Coughlin would get fired. It's not the Giants style and they absolutely love Coughlin, anyone who knows even a little about the Giants and that situation would know that. And if you think he runs "military type camps" still....you just don't know the situation. He stopped that stuff a few years back and runs a light camp these days. He changed his ways and well, he got 2 SB rings out of it! Once again not speculation you are just making stuff up and throwing it out there with nothing to back it up. That isn't speculation that is just making up rumors.

And you are DEAD WRONG about Rex, if anything his seat is getting hotter. Because anyone with a clue knows Week 1 they should of lost but got handed a gift by the stupid penalty by the TB linebacker. And yesterday they got handed another gift because when you commit 20 penalties in a game...you shouldn't win. It was a FLUKE! The Jets should be 0-3 and "educated football fans" know they have been very lucky.  They have been lucky, real lucky and hey god bless them. Can't take away the 2 wins they count, but be realistic about it. And at seasons end when Woody and Idzik evaluate their situation they will know Rex was "lucky" rather than "good." And if the Jets don't win another game all year I wouldn't be shocked. They got Cincy, Balt, Atlanta, Miami (twice), NE, New Orleans, Panthers, Pitt, hell even Cleveland is no gimmie for them. Aside from Oakland I don't see a winnable game on their schedule.

Listing every 0-3 team and saying their head coach is in trouble is just silly. Each situation is different and you are throwing out names that have no chance of getting fired that isn't "speculating" its just being flat out wrong!

Nothing to back it up eh?  After today's debacle in KC, there are quite a few Giants fans on the airwaves calling for Coughlin's head.  I suggest we revisit this at the end of the season.

The Giants aren't ran by the fans. 

fans on a radio talk show (probably drunk fans) is what you are clinging too....lol lol. Uh, ok!

Son, I read newspaper articles from all over the country.  Everywhere I look I see Giants fans lashing out at the team and wanting a coaching change. 

"Son"....LOL LOL!!

Miami fans have wanted Jeff Ireland gone for years and he hasn't brought his franchise 2 Super Bowls like Coughlin has. Fans in Miami holding protests outside the team offices against Ireland, fans calling in radio shows wanting Ireland fired, fans flying banners above the stadium on game days saying Fire Ireland, and he was...oh wait.... Just given a contract extension. NEVERMIND!  ::)

If the "New York Newspapers/Tabloids and Call in Radio Shows" is you trying to justify thinking Coughlin is getting fired you have really no leg to stand on.

There are only two ways that Coughlin's seat gets hot this year:

1) The Giants' losing streak reaches 0-13 or 0-14
2) Coughlin eats the Rattlesnake burrito from Baja Cafe and ass-trumpets a massive jalapeno cloud into his seat cushion.


Maybe he's tired of pretending to be a professor, and wants to pretend to be your Dad for a while...

You have zero plus on the state of Giants fans.  I just went to one of their message boards.  Yes, there were fans suggesting regime change -- but it was a very very small minority.  

There was also a thread discussing --- who was the better coach - Bill Belichick or Tom Caughlin.  Majority said Belichick.  However, there are more Giants fans who believe that Tom is either: better, just as good or only slightly inferior to Bill than there are fans that want Tom fired.  That is hardly outrage of the fan faithful.      

And as for the New York papers --- They are having too much fun comparing Geno Smith's version of a butt fumble to Mark Sanchez's to get too worked up about the Giants. 

This is the "let's start a discussion by listing all the winless coaches" thread.  No thought behind the list whatsoever.

Given the way that team has played, this is not out of the realm of possibility.  I was listening to Mike and Mike on ESPN Radio on the way to work and they were having a discussion on which of the winless coaches actually have hot seats.  Tom Coughlin actually came up as "warm" which was largely based on the way this team has performed the past two weeks and Eli Manning's overall performance.  It crop to "tepid" if they improve and win a few games.  Mike Tomlin was listed as "tepid" because he's got control of the locker room.  Greg Schiano was "hot" because he clearly doesn't have control of the locker room and a lot of rumors are flying.  Gus Bradley was "warm" because it is his first year, but that team has been playing players that just got promoted from the practice squad and is downright awful.  If any team could match the Detroit Lions 0-16 debacle in 2008, it would be the 2013 Jaguars.  And even though it is Bradley's first year, you can't go 0-16 and keep your job.

How's that Tom Coughlin hot seat going? Just checking in......oh wait, nevermind

Looks like both his and Mike Tomlins have cooled down a bit.  So has Greg Schiano's with two wins.  Atlanta's Mike Smith might be feeling the heat now as is the Dolphins Joe Philbin

Not if they keep winning. Players are starting to stand up for him.

“It was tough here for a while, what with the whole Josh Freeman thing and guys getting hurt, but through all of that Coach Schiano was like, “Forget that, get your pads on and keep working,’ ” Buccaneers guard Davin Joseph said, via Roy Cummings of the Tampa Tribune. “And now we’re finally getting a sense to where the guys in this locker room really do believe him and believe in him. And I can say now that this is first time I can say that we’re a family now.

“He’s been preaching that since he walked in the door and sometimes you don’t know where they’re coming from with that. . . . It was family, family, family and it makes sense now. I can say we really are like a family now because guys really trust him, guys really believe in him because all that stuff he’s been saying about just keep your head down and keep working, it’s all coming true now.”

Looks like Schiano's seat may have cooled off.  Here's a new one though.  Gary Kubiak of the Texans.  His high powered offense managed just six points against Jacksonville yesterday and fans are harassing Matt Schaub

Looks like I called it correctly on Kubiak.  He's been relieved of his duties as of today.

Bull shit you called nothing correctly. 

He wasn't on your original list of 6, all 6 of them remain employed and one coach that wasn't on the list was fired. 

Or do you want to predict NE wins the AFCE today and then boast about it at the end of the season. 

He probably teaches the course "Intro to Hedged Bets"

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/22/rex-tells-jets-players-he-thinks-hes-getting-fired/

Rex tells his team he thinks he is getting Fired. He has all but waived the white flag! Considering Miami has beaten his Jets like a drum for the most part of his time in NY, will be sad to see him go

Would love to have him as our Defensive Coordinator. He may be a loud mouth, but the players love him and go all out for him too.

Not sure about the players loving him. A bunch of said bad things about him once they have left and others have taken equal money to play elsewhere. Not a sign the players love him

Schiano wants to leave Tampa Bay to take the Penn St job once Bill O'Brien leaves to go to the NFL in a few weeks.

Another college coach who found out that life in the NFL ain't so much fun. Still wouldn't be shocked to see Harbaugh bolt SF for Texas too. These college coaches love to have total control go to the NFL and see their hands get tied and they don't like it much. Always go running back to college

Jets owner just announced that Rex Ryan is being retained.

Vikings announced Leslie Frazier is fired

Skins fire Mike Shannahan

All three moves were predictable

The Jets did make a case to keep him around, but all the pundits were predicting his exit.

With the lack of talent he had in NY, for finishing at .500 he should get some COTY votes. -EK

Browns might fire Chud which would be foolish on every level.

Update: ESPN reporting Chud has been fired

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/417426618408136704

The owner for Cleveland is a scumbag on every level. Granted, the team lost 10 of it's last 11, but they had a carousel of awful QB's and no running backs. What did they expect?

now some players for the Browns are on twitter badmouthing Chud. That is a train-wreck of the highest order in Cleveland. Good luck trying to find another head coach to work for anyone in that organization.

The owner is clueless! Could have had Kelly or Marrone last year, he dragged his feet and thought his job was the best. Thought they would wait on him, they didnt. They both went elsewhere and he was pissed. He dropped the ball last year and now he is stomping mad and Chud is gonna pay for it.

Browns coaching list consists of  O'Brien, McDaniels, Wisenhunt, Horton according to Mort.

I like Ken Wisenhut to get another head coaching job.

Ian Rappaport is reporting that the Bucs have fired Greg Schiano.  Of my six originals, I'm batting .500.  Not bad for an old man.

GM Mark Dominic is gone too.

The Lions have parted ways with Jim Scwartz.

Lovie Smith and Jeff Tedford to Tampa as a package deal. Lovie knows who is offensive coordinator will be is the big question around him since he screwed that up in Chicago. So he already has his OC lined up. Tampa seems to be a landing spot for him from early rumors/reports

Jason La Canfora of CBS Sports reporting that Rich McKay could be going back as team President and director of player personnel Chris Ballard of the Chiefs coming over as GM. A homecoming of sorts for all three.

Houston hired Bill Obrien tonight

Bucs have reached an agreement with Lovie Smith

Just saw that. Maybe its not too late for Ross & Co. to sneak up to Tampa and convince him to reconsider.

Lovie is taking Leslie Frazier with him as DC, but that guy will never get rehired as a Head Coach anyway.

wouldn't say that. Not Frazier's fault his teams in Minny didn't have a QB. It's all about the QB

No, but it was his fault he used his crappy QB's in short yardage situations when he had Purple Jesus.

Giants OC Kevin Gilbride "retired"....which is short for say you are retiring or else we are going to fire you.  Gilbride took a lot of heat this year in NY

Someone had to take the fall in New York.  And apparently they didn't want to get rid of Coughlin.  You were right on that one.

wasn't about being right, he was never on the chopping block....ever! It was stupid to ever mention his name on your part. As with Tomlin's.

Not necessarily.  He is 62.  Plus his son who also works for the Giants wasn't fired and might replace him. 

1) His son isn't going to replace him. Mike Sullivan is going to replace him
2) He probably did the "I retire" to save his son's job and he will now take a job elsewhere within a few weeks and end his "retirement".

Mike Munchack HC of the Titans fired.

I'm surprised by this move considering the Titans originallt said he would be retained

I was thinking the same thing. Seems someone got their wires crossed.

Well, the same thing happened to Marty Schottenheimer in San Diego following the 2006 season

They gave him ultimatums about his coaching staff and whatnot and he opted to just leave. So, they said he would stay as long as he changed everything about his staff and coaching style.

Jay Gruden finally gets his shot as a head coach.  The Redskins are set to announce his hiring

Hope it goes well for Gruden but who knows under that guy.

Talk about a dysfunctional organization.  Redskins and Dallas are the worst.

And will continue to be that way until Jerry and Dan the owners fire Jerry and Dan the GMs

+1

Honestly.  There's nothing you can do about a bad owner.  Throw Al Davis in there, too. 

A meddling owner is the worst thing ever.  I used to defend Wayne Huizenga because he wasn't Jerry Jones.  And there's nothing you can do about it until they're dead.

It appears the jobs are all but locked up at this point minus Cleveland.....

Tenn--Dan Quinn will probably get the job. Just waiting for the Seahawks season to end to make it official.

Vikings--Mike Zimmer has the job all but locked up. Only hold up is who will his OC be. It was going to be Hue Jackson till Jackson got promoted in Cincy when Gruden left. So Minny just wants to clarify who Zimmer will have calling the plays on offense. But its his job it seems at this point.

Lions--Wisenhunt has the gig just waiting for SD season to end

Cleveland--Nobody has any clue what they are doing

Little bit of a shocker....Ken Whisenhunt signed with Tennessee and NOT the Lions!

Lions hire Jim Caldwell as head coach

Good hire by the lions. Glad to see that Caldwell got another opportunity.