Title: Ireland given contract extension Post by: MikeO on September 23, 2013, 01:25:40 pm News is leaking out today Ireland was given a 1 year extension in the summer. But the Fins waited till now to announce it to the public
UPDATE: Here is the link http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/23804000/report-dolphins-give-gm-jeff-ireland-oneyear-contract-extension Title: Re: Ireland given contract extension Post by: Brian Fein on September 23, 2013, 03:23:33 pm Good. He deserves it. His free agent class is proving to be a crop of gems.
I think he has done well lately, by cutting guys loose who underperform (Richard Marshall) and bringing in talent that has helped the team. Title: Re: Ireland given contract extension Post by: RhodeIslandPhinFan on September 23, 2013, 06:36:34 pm The only good news about this is the fact that Miami will have another year to find a good GM. Ireland is almost as bad as Spielman was. A monkey could have made the moves with the money we had available this past offseason.
Title: Re: Ireland given contract extension Post by: Brian Fein on September 24, 2013, 11:58:46 am ^^ Typical biased and senseless response. ::)
Heaven forbid people might give Ireland CREDIT for doing something good. Instead its "a monkey could have done that..." Title: Re: Ireland given contract extension Post by: Tenshot13 on September 24, 2013, 12:23:40 pm I think Ireland is great and this is an excellent move.
Title: Re: Ireland given contract extension Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on September 24, 2013, 12:24:43 pm Actually this contract doesn't mean they even plan to have him as a the GM in 2014, unless it includes a lot of guaranteed money.
If I was an owner, I would not want either my GM or coach to ever be in a situation where they had less than a year on their contract. I would rather take the $$$ hit for firing them before their contract is up, then have guy who is expecting to be on the way out running the team. Granted if the Dolphins make the playoffs it would be a good reason to keep him and extend him. But I would not see this move as meaning that Ireland is a lock to survive black Monday if the Dolphins don't. Title: Re: Ireland given contract extension Post by: Fau Teixeira on September 24, 2013, 12:44:29 pm The only good news about this is the fact that Miami will have another year to find a good GM. Ireland is almost as bad as Spielman was. A monkey could have made the moves with the money we had available this past offseason. yeah i don't buy this at all .. he did make the moves .. apparently no other GM in the nfl could have because no other GM did Title: Re: Ireland given contract extension Post by: Dave Gray on September 24, 2013, 02:09:47 pm The only good news about this is the fact that Miami will have another year to find a good GM. Ireland is almost as bad as Spielman was. A monkey could have made the moves with the money we had available this past offseason. Ireland deserves full credit for those moves. Even if he had the money to make them, he's the one who freed up the money to use. I'm all for criticizing poor decisions, but in this case, he deserves credit. Title: Re: Ireland given contract extension Post by: Spider-Dan on September 24, 2013, 03:06:47 pm It's a one-year extension. We all saw how much good that did Sparano.
The GM is not an idiot because the team starts 0-3, and he's not a genius because the team starts 3-0. I will give Ireland all the credit in the world if this team gets at least one playoff win (or wins the division outright - no tiebreakers). Title: Re: Ireland given contract extension Post by: Tenshot13 on September 24, 2013, 06:18:22 pm Not to mention, he made all of these blockbuster moves and we aren't even close to being in cap hell.
Title: Re: Ireland given contract extension Post by: Brian Fein on September 25, 2013, 10:30:16 am ^^ In fact, we have leftover money!
I can't criticize a single thing so far that happened this past offseason. If you want to nit-pick you can say they overpaid for Wallace. But I think if you wanted to land him you had to pay the market value for a #1 WR. The only thing I might take exception to was the Bess trade, but it sure seems like that was a Philbin move. Title: Re: Ireland given contract extension Post by: CF DolFan on September 25, 2013, 10:56:55 am ^^ In fact, we have leftover money! You would rather have Bess than Gibson? I liked Bess but I think so far, Gibson has proved more valuable to us. I can't criticize a single thing so far that happened this past offseason. If you want to nit-pick you can say they overpaid for Wallace. But I think if you wanted to land him you had to pay the market value for a #1 WR. The only thing I might take exception to was the Bess trade, but it sure seems like that was a Philbin move. Title: Re: Ireland given contract extension Post by: Brian Fein on September 25, 2013, 11:17:13 am I don't see why we can't have both...
Title: Re: Ireland given contract extension Post by: Spider-Dan on September 25, 2013, 11:20:29 am I'd rather have Bess than whoever our 4th WR is.
The depth chart at WR is about as deep as a petri dish. Title: Re: Ireland given contract extension Post by: MikeO on September 25, 2013, 11:51:45 am I don't see why we can't have both... Same reason they didn't want Dansby, Bush, and some others. They felt Bess was a bad locker-room guy especially how last year ended with the staff thinking he was healthy enough to play and Bess not wanting to suit up! Plus if you think Bess was going to be a #4 WR in a contract year and not make a stink and be a problem you are nuts. With him playing/fighting for a contract and getting limited playing time as a #4 WR he more than likely would have been a locker-room cancer all season. Last year ended bad between Bess and the organization....and if he stayed it would have only gotten worse. Title: Re: Ireland given contract extension Post by: Diehard_Dolfan on September 25, 2013, 11:54:26 am ^^ In fact, we have leftover money! I can't criticize a single thing so far that happened this past offseason. If you want to nit-pick you can say they overpaid for Wallace. But I think if you wanted to land him you had to pay the market value for a #1 WR. The only thing I might take exception to was the Bess trade, but it sure seems like that was a Philbin move. I agree with the over paid for Wallace part but I'm still glad we got Wallace. My thinking all along was we should have drafted TY Hilton... we'd have the guy who could take the top off a defense and would have cost less. I like Hilton and more money could have meant more for the offensive line plus we're keeping with the building through the draft plan. Title: Re: Ireland given contract extension Post by: Landshark on September 25, 2013, 12:37:43 pm I agree with the over paid for Wallace part but I'm still glad we got Wallace. My thinking all along was we should have drafted TY Hilton... we'd have the guy who could take the top off a defense and would have cost less. I like Hilton and more money could have meant more for the offensive line plus we're keeping with the building through the draft plan. For some reason, Jeff Ireland doesn't like spending early picks on receivers and tight ends. Title: Re: Ireland given contract extension Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on September 25, 2013, 12:46:04 pm For some reason, Jeff Ireland doesn't like spending early picks on receivers and tight ends. I agree with him. While there are from time to time great rookie WR, they are rare, WR typically don't hit their stride until year 3. If I was a GM, WR would be a position I would use FA $$ on and use the draft picks on players that are more likely to have an impact during their first two years. Title: Re: Ireland given contract extension Post by: Spider-Dan on September 25, 2013, 03:03:05 pm Same reason they didn't want Dansby, Bush, and some others. They felt Bess was a bad locker-room guy especially how last year ended with the staff thinking he was healthy enough to play and Bess not wanting to suit up! Plus if you think Bess was going to be a #4 WR in a contract year and not make a stink and be a problem you are nuts. With him playing/fighting for a contract and getting limited playing time as a #4 WR he more than likely would have been a locker-room cancer all season. Did you make any posts commenting on the "bad blood" between Bess and the organization prior to him being traded?Last year ended bad between Bess and the organization....and if he stayed it would have only gotten worse. That sounds like rationalization to me. Title: Re: Ireland given contract extension Post by: CF DolFan on September 25, 2013, 03:27:50 pm Did you make any posts commenting on the "bad blood" between Bess and the organization prior to him being traded? Many people said that. Unless you are arguing "relationship with the Dolphins soured" vs "bad blood" ... even Bess said it. That sounds like rationalization to me. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000238553/article/davone-bess-broken-back-led-to-miami-dolphins-exit Quote Bess told The Miami Herald this week that his relationship with the Dolphins soured toward the end of last season because he couldn't get on the field. After playing in 77 consecutive games since 2008, Bess missed the Dolphins' final three contests last season because of what he called a fractured vertebrae in his lower back. "Everybody's injury is different," Bess said Wednesday. "I couldn't go, and I didn't. That's the way it unfolded." Bess said he holds no grudges against the Dolphins, but he told the newspaper the injury ultimately led to his exit from the team. Sources familiar with the situation denied that, telling The Herald that the trade hinged primarily on finances. Title: Re: Ireland given contract extension Post by: MikeO on September 25, 2013, 03:48:54 pm Did you make any posts commenting on the "bad blood" between Bess and the organization prior to him being traded? That sounds like rationalization to me. I knew of the friction at the end of the year when he wasn't playing and the coaches wanted him to play. All the papers reported on it at the time. Was I "surprised" when they traded him at the draft...not in the least. Considering by that point they ran out every other person they didn't like (ie Bush, Dansby, Burnett...etc) You can call it a "rationalization" if ya want....but it's what happened and what went down. Otherwise he would still be in Miami Title: Re: Ireland given contract extension Post by: Spider-Dan on September 25, 2013, 05:33:04 pm I think it's just convenient that this kind of logic is applied after-the-fact.
I mean, you would think that if the Dolphins suspended a player for a game (twice!) for being out of shape, that he would be on the way out of town. But instead, that player was assigned a franchise tag (http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/26302/paul-soliai-cashes-in-with-fins-franchise-tag) and ultimately given a two-year deal (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7687695/2012-nfl-free-agency-miami-dolphins-keep-paul-soliai-2-years-12m-source-says) (the multi-year contract was under Philbin). Another Dolphins player was convicted of assault (http://www.keyt.com/news/Miami-Dolphins-player-sentenced-in-Isla-Vista-assault/-/17671600/18540748/-/6nry4i/-/index.html) a few months before being given a 4-year extension (http://www.miamidolphins.com/news/press-releases/article-1/PRESS-RELEASE-Dolphins-Sign-Misi-To-Contract-Extension/04838b66-728b-48dc-a23a-27a87c6953f2). Wallace complained about not being thrown to during a win... does that mean he's out of town next offseason? Starks was upset about the franchise tag... does that mean he definitely won't be re-signed? That would be interesting, since Soliai is also unhappy with his contract (http://www.kffl.com/gnews.php?id=869854-dolphins-paul-soliai-unhappy-with-contract-situation). Are both of them on their way out? I think this "not a Philbin guy" nonsense is just a smokescreen so the front office can try to avoid explaining their decisions on football merits. Title: Re: Ireland given contract extension Post by: Pappy13 on September 25, 2013, 11:42:30 pm I'd rather have Bess than whoever our 4th WR is. I wouldn't. Mathews is turning into a nice receiver that is gonna get better I believe he had 2 catches in "the drive". Bess has already seen his best years. He wouldn't have seen the field much this year if he was on the team unless someone else got hurt.Title: Re: Ireland given contract extension Post by: Landshark on September 25, 2013, 11:47:54 pm I wouldn't. Mathews is turning into a nice receiver that is gonna get better. Bess has already seen his best years. He wouldn't have seen the field much this year if he was on the team unless someone else got hurt. Bess is still a bit young. But he's as good as he's going to get. You can get the same productivity out of Mattews with much more upside. Title: Re: Ireland given contract extension Post by: Pappy13 on September 25, 2013, 11:51:20 pm Bess is still a bit young. He's 28. Get on the wrong side of 30 and you're typically out of job in the NFL unless you are elite. |