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Title: Saints’ Junior Galette: Dolphins aren’t as good as everyone said
Post by: CF DolFan on October 01, 2013, 08:15:10 am
It's kind of funny now. Well ... the fact many of the Dolphins fans were screaming about respect. We basically laid an egg on prime time and even worse, we looked scared doing it. I've always felt you get respect when you earn it and even if people are bias ... you still get the respect. Obviously we haven't gotten there yet but we will.

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Saints’ Junior Galette: Dolphins aren’t as good as everyone said

Posted by Michael David Smith on October 1, 2013, 7:49 AM EDT
Miami Dolphins v New Orleans Saints

In a Monday night battle of teams that entered the game 3-0, the Saints looked like Super Bowl contenders, while the Dolphins did not. After the game, one Saints player said the Dolphins were never as good as that 3-0 record suggested.

Saints outside linebacker Junior Galette said the Dolphins really weren’t a very good team, and the Saints had an easy night.

“I just don’t feel that team was as good as everybody was saying they were,” Galette said. “We just abused the offensive line all game.”

Galette was one of four Saints who sacked Dolphins quarterback Ryan Tannehill, and Galette also hit Tannehill as he was passing once, and tipped a pass that was intercepted. So he has every right to claim the Saints’ defense abused the Dolphins’ offense. Still, maybe from the Saints’ perspective, it would be preferable to say that they’re better than everyone thought, rather than saying the Dolphins are worse than everyone thought.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/10/01/saints-junior-galette-dolphins-arent-as-good-as-everyone-said/


Title: Re: Saints’ Junior Galette: Dolphins aren’t as good as everyone said
Post by: Landshark on October 01, 2013, 08:31:45 am
The truth hurts.  Even more pathetic is the fact that the Saints defense is not that good.


Title: Re: Saints’ Junior Galette: Dolphins aren’t as good as everyone said
Post by: EKnight on October 01, 2013, 08:36:58 am
They were the #4 ranked D heading into the game. I posted that yesterday, but no one wanted to acknowledge it. NO's defense is good. Miami's offense is average. That's a ad combination if you're Miami. -EK


Title: Re: Saints’ Junior Galette: Dolphins aren’t as good as everyone said
Post by: Pappy13 on October 01, 2013, 09:10:03 am
They were the #4 ranked D heading into the game. I posted that yesterday, but no one wanted to acknowledge it. NO's defense is good. Miami's offense is average. That's a ad combination if you're Miami. -EK
The defense is the major liability on this team right now especially against that kind of offense and without Wake, Patterson and Carroll. Don't get me wrong, the defense is good enough to be decent, but they simply are not good enough to compete with that kind of offensive firepower without all of their weapons at their disposal. At best the Dolphins D has been a bend but don't break kind of defense this year until last night. Miami was still in the game until the 3rd quarter. Once the game got out of hand then the offense got exposed, but that wasn't until the defense had already been taken out behind the shed and whipped.


Title: Re: Saints’ Junior Galette: Dolphins aren’t as good as everyone said
Post by: Doc-phin on October 01, 2013, 09:36:09 am
We don't suck, but we aren't a ready for anything big. 


Title: Re: Saints’ Junior Galette: Dolphins aren’t as good as everyone said
Post by: MikeO on October 01, 2013, 09:39:52 am
We don't suck, but we aren't a ready for anything big. 

Exactly. As I said last night, few teams go into New Orleans and win. This isn't a bad loss. The wins vs Indy and Atlanta are still good wins. Miami wasn't going unbeaten all year this isn't shocking that the Saints beat them. 3-1 after 4 weeks is still a terrific start to the season.

Just because the Saints are a better team doesn't mean Miami sucks now.


Title: Re: Saints’ Junior Galette: Dolphins aren’t as good as everyone said
Post by: EKnight on October 01, 2013, 09:45:42 am
Pappy- I was referring to the Saints D being #4.

Realistically, though, I don't see the offense being Miami's strong point. Give up too man sacks, no receiving threat (if Wallace can return to his form 2 years ago they might, but right now, no), no TE threat, can't convert short yardage, and haven't really played anyone- except NO, who they got throat punched by. -EK


Title: Re: Saints’ Junior Galette: Dolphins aren’t as good as everyone said
Post by: CF DolFan on October 01, 2013, 10:04:31 am
We don't suck, but we aren't a ready for anything big. 
I would agree. We are a good team but we are not elite. This sin't a team that can make a few mistakes and stay in the game against the best teams. Some teams .. yes. But certainly not the top teams.


Title: Re: Saints’ Junior Galette: Dolphins aren’t as good as everyone said
Post by: Spider-Dan on October 01, 2013, 11:25:05 am
They were the #4 ranked D heading into the game. I posted that yesterday, but no one wanted to acknowledge it. NO's defense is good. Miami's offense is average. That's a ad combination if you're Miami.

Miami is a 7-9 2012 team that has beaten 3 teams with a combined .500 record.
New Orleans is a 7-9 2012 team that has beaten 4 teams with a combined .375 record.  So how good is their defense, really?

Good to see you back posting again now that the Dolphins have lost, though.


Title: Re: Saints’ Junior Galette: Dolphins aren’t as good as everyone said
Post by: Diehard_Dolfan on October 01, 2013, 11:48:13 am
There were factors in that game that helped it spiral out of control.. looking at score yeah it's easy to say saints whipped us! Despite all the big plays until Tanny fumbled on that scramble it was a 7-3 game.  Then again until Tanny's Int it was a 14-10 game going into half.  Those turnovers along with Carrol's bad judgement turned te game upside down.  Instead of going into half down 14-10 we go into half down 21-10.   I still put a lot of blame on that 3rd and inches call also... the offense was clicking on that drive.    It pissed me off that they didn't go hurry up to snap the ball before the saints had a chance to challenge it.

It pissed me off because they actually went hurry up on another play later in the game when they didn't need to but didn't when they needed to! smh

Game was a different game but Tanny's turnovers and Carrol's bad decision quickly changed that! 


Title: Re: Saints’ Junior Galette: Dolphins aren’t as good as everyone said
Post by: Pappy13 on October 01, 2013, 11:51:15 am
Pappy- I was referring to the Saints D being #4.
I know you were but you said the Dolphins offense was average which I don't really think it is. I think it's a bit better than average, but like you said the Saints D is actually pretty good. The Saints Offense is really good too and the Miami D is only a bit better than average as well which I think was really the problem in this game. Miami really wasn't in trouble till they got down by about 2 TD's in the 2nd half. At that point Miami abandoned the run which is what the Saints were giving Miami and had to pass and the offensive line is not built for that.

Realistically, though, I don't see the offense being Miami's strong point. Give up too man sacks, no receiving threat (if Wallace can return to his form 2 years ago they might, but right now, no), no TE threat, can't convert short yardage, and haven't really played anyone- except NO, who they got throat punched by. -EK
I think the Offense and the Defense are about the same. As long as the D can bend but not break, the offense is good enough to win, but if Miami gets down too much the offense isn't going to be able to compensate, the offensive line isn't strong enough to become one dimensional.


Title: Re: Saints’ Junior Galette: Dolphins aren’t as good as everyone said
Post by: EKnight on October 01, 2013, 11:53:02 am
New Orleans is a 7-9 2012 team that has beaten 4 teams with a combined .375 record.  So how good is their defense, really?

Good to see you back posting again now that the Dolphins have lost, though.

I'm not debating any of that, and I didn't create the defense's rank or pull it out of thin air. I posher a fact. Not an embellishment or creation.

Other than trying to stir shit, what's your point? -EK


Title: Re: Saints’ Junior Galette: Dolphins aren’t as good as everyone said
Post by: stealth3ltt on October 01, 2013, 04:47:56 pm


Good to see you back posting again now that the Dolphins have lost, though.
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Title: Re: Saints’ Junior Galette: Dolphins aren’t as good as everyone said
Post by: EKnight on October 01, 2013, 06:31:12 pm
Laugh riot- except that I predicted a 3 TD loss BEFORE the game and posted in a couple of threads prior to this one. Nice try though. B- for effort. -EK


Title: Re: Saints’ Junior Galette: Dolphins aren’t as good as everyone said
Post by: Spider-Dan on October 01, 2013, 09:49:24 pm
Week 1, Miami wins on road against CLE: EK's only Dolphins topic of interest is thread bashing Wallace (http://www.thedolphinsmakemecry.com/forums/index.php?topic=21904.msg293554#msg293554)
Week 2, Miami has upset win @ IND:  EK has nothing to say
Week 3, Miami wins at home against last year's NFC #1 playoff seed: EK has nothing to say
Week 4, day of road game against heavily favored opponent: EK finds tongue
Immediately after first MIA loss: torrent of posts from EK

trollin' hard


Title: Re: Saints’ Junior Galette: Dolphins aren’t as good as everyone said
Post by: EKnight on October 02, 2013, 07:05:20 pm
I use to think everyone just gave him a hard time but what you're saying is actually true!   I had totally forgot about him until the Dolphins lost... I hadn't seen a post from him since last season or off-season.

Guess you missed the 50 or 60 posts since "last season." Everything from the Jets-Pats game, to the Zimmerman thread, to the Gun control thread. Hardly limited to how good/bad Miami performs. -EK


Title: Re: Saints’ Junior Galette: Dolphins aren’t as good as everyone said
Post by: bsmooth on October 03, 2013, 12:16:15 am
When asked by people what I thought of the Dolphins chances before this game, I said they have improved, but we will not go past first round playoffs, due to the O line giving up too many sacks. We are on pace for 72 sacks.


Title: Re: Saints’ Junior Galette: Dolphins aren’t as good as everyone said
Post by: CF DolFan on October 03, 2013, 09:39:30 am
I deleted several posts already. Please do not make me lock the thread. Keep the topic on Dolphins football.


Title: Re: Saints’ Junior Galette: Dolphins aren’t as good as everyone said
Post by: Landshark on October 03, 2013, 12:14:06 pm
When asked by people what I thought of the Dolphins chances before this game, I said they have improved, but we will not go past first round playoffs, due to the O line giving up too many sacks. We are on pace for 72 sacks.

I'd hate to see Tanny end up like David Carr.


Title: Re: Saints’ Junior Galette: Dolphins aren’t as good as everyone said
Post by: Diehard_Dolfan on October 04, 2013, 01:24:25 pm
When asked by people what I thought of the Dolphins chances before this game, I said they have improved, but we will not go past first round playoffs, due to the O line giving up too many sacks. We are on pace for 72 sacks.

O line is giving up too many sacks but Tanny is part to blame for that also.  He's to comfortable in the pocket and holds the ball too long at times.  He needs that clock and pocket awareness that all the great ones have... I'm not sure how long that will take him to develop.


Title: Re: Saints’ Junior Galette: Dolphins aren’t as good as everyone said
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on October 04, 2013, 01:48:23 pm
He needs that clock and pocket awareness that all the great ones have... I'm not sure how long that will take him to develop.

That is one thing you don't have a long time to learn.  Every sack is a potential season ending injury.  If you are getting sacked 72 times a season, the odds of you having a lengthy career is low.   


Title: Re: Saints’ Junior Galette: Dolphins aren’t as good as everyone said
Post by: MikeO on October 05, 2013, 11:28:53 am
O line is giving up too many sacks but Tanny is part to blame for that also.  He's to comfortable in the pocket and holds the ball too long at times.  He needs that clock and pocket awareness that all the great ones have... I'm not sure how long that will take him to develop.

This weeks game is big for Clabo if he wants to keep his job. 4 sacks in 4 games he has given up and there are rumblings that his job is in jeopardy if not on the line this week if he doesn't play well.  Thank god he is only on a one year deal. He clearly has hit the wall and we are stuck with another "Marc Colombo" older type at RT this season with him unfortunately.


Title: Re: Saints’ Junior Galette: Dolphins aren’t as good as everyone said
Post by: mecadonzilla on October 05, 2013, 02:39:06 pm
This team struggles with pass protection.  There is no dobut about that.  However, Tannehill isn't doing anyone any favors by running into sackers or holding on to the ball too long.  He seems to have very poor pocket awareness at times.  This issue gets compounded when the line is like a sieve.


Title: Re: Saints’ Junior Galette: Dolphins aren’t as good as everyone said
Post by: MikeO on October 05, 2013, 08:15:57 pm
This team struggles with pass protection.  There is no dobut about that.  However, Tannehill isn't doing anyone any favors by running into sackers or holding on to the ball too long.  He seems to have very poor pocket awareness at times.  This issue gets compounded when the line is like a sieve.

He can improve pocket awareness no dobut but the right side of the o-line has been awful. And with Dion Sims missing blocks as well the blocking up front has just been a train-wreck. Jon Jerry stinks and is getting worse. Before he was a solid pass blocker and a poor run blocker...now he is just poor all around. Clabo is just old. He lost it overnight. It's a fine line between veteran and being old.....he is now just old and slow. He is the FA signing that has been the biggest disappointment by far because he has actually down-graded the position from last year.

Martin is fine, not great, not awful... but good enough and improving each week at least. Pouncey is fine. Incognitio is a journeymen who is nothing special by any means, but Clabo and Jerry flat out suck!


Title: Re: Saints’ Junior Galette: Dolphins aren’t as good as everyone said
Post by: Landshark on October 05, 2013, 08:27:19 pm
He can improve pocket awareness no dobut but the right side of the o-line has been awful. And with Dion Sims missing blocks as well the blocking up front has just been a train-wreck. Jon Jerry stinks and is getting worse. Before he was a solid pass blocker and a poor run blocker...now he is just poor all around. Clabo is just old. He lost it overnight. It's a fine line between veteran and being old.....he is now just old and slow. He is the FA signing that has been the biggest disappointment by far because he has actually down-graded the position from last year.

Martin is fine, not great, not awful... but good enough and improving each week at least. Pouncey is fine. Incognitio is a journeymen who is nothing special by any means, but Clabo and Jerry flat out suck!

And look what has been invested into this offensive line.  Two first round picks, a second round pick and a third round pick.  And it still sucks.


Title: Re: Saints’ Junior Galette: Dolphins aren’t as good as everyone said
Post by: MikeO on October 05, 2013, 10:47:48 pm
And look what has been invested into this offensive line.  Two first round picks, a second round pick and a third round pick.  And it still sucks.

actually 2 third round picks. Jerry and Thomas both 3rd rounders.

I think a year from now Thomas is starting at one of the guard positions or right tackle. He needed a year in an NFL weight program to bulk up