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Armando Salguero had an article this morning (http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/) about the honeymoon being over for Joe Philbin and the coaching staff.

I believe the honeymoon is over for the whole organization. After a euphoric start to the season with 3 wins, they have now lost 3 straight, each one more frustrating than the last.

The loss to NO is somewhat is acceptable, since NO is a legitimate SB contender and the game was NO.  The loss to BAL was bad, since we couldn't commit to the run and then to tack on several key injuries during the game didn't help.  The loss yesterday is hair pulling, since BUF was basically starting a 3rd QB and running game was nil.  Yet, there they were allowing conversions on 3rd and long and AGAIN with the turnovers and sacks.

Philbin stood on the podium after the game yesterday and sounded like an idiot.  Some key quotes:

“I have to do a better job getting the team ready to play, no question about it.”

"I want to congratulate the Bills for playing better and making the plays to win the game."

WTF?????  That's what a loser says.  He has that deer in the headlights look to him. I know his demeanor is one of quiet reserve, but you're in the big leagues now and you can't be saying shit like this when you've ripped off 3 losses in a row and bad ones. 

Is the job too big for him?  Maybe. I don't know.  It's also frustrating to know he was a former OL coach and that's one glaring issue for MIA.  Add into the fact that the front office talked about addressing this issue during the summer, but that's all they did, TALKED.  Could have made a move for Branden Albert but didn't. 

I don't know, it's so frustrating.  There's the same issues creeping up again with this organization, it seems that a 6-10 record is awaiting them at the end of the season.  Bad Off line play, turnovers, bad defense at critical times.

So much promise to start the season, and then a key injury to Dustin Keller, and then some more smaller injuries to other key players, Wake, Ellerbe, etc, have hampered them.

I don't know what to say, I know it's knee-jerk reaction Monday after a bad loss, but it's like we've seen this TV show before. 

What do you expect from a guy who looks like a delegate for the corn farmers union who has a right hand man that for all intents and purposes should be in a nursing home??  If the Dolphins have another season like the last for, I say get rid of Ireland and the coaching staff and start all over again

You can still get a faint whiff of Tuna stank on this team. 

Yea ... I don't get that at all. The Dolphins are handicapped by their offensive line. We knew that before the season started although I don't think we knew how bad they actually were. All the coaching in the world isn't going to make them legitimate starters.

Buffalo's whole game plan was based on our weak O-line. They wanted to jump the underneath short routes because they knew we were afraid of their pass rush and would dump the ball quick. It worked to the tune of a pick six and several short gains. They didn't respect the deep ball even playing the short routes on Wallace.

We still have some weaknesses in other places like DBs but making some changes to our O-line in the off-season will make us a legitimate contender.

I mentioned for the past week that teams like Buffalo were match-up nightmares for Miami specifically because of their pass rush and the Phins' porous O line. What- did you all think I was just joking? -EK

No just trolling like usual  ;D

No, we thought you say the same thing all the time and disappear when you are wrong.

And how wrong have I been this season? Lamar "home run threat" Miller has been non-existent taking over the role of a guy who has been a top 10 back and Miami let walk. Wallace hasn't made an impact at all this season and is doing little more than eating up salary that could be spent on better players. RT still has more turnovers than TDs, and still isn't the answer at QB, no matter how often you guys say he is. So, what exactly have I been wrong about in the big picture? Miami is an average team with a bad offense and a defense good enough to keep them in most games, but not good enough to override the ineptitude of the offense. They'll finish middle of the pack (again), do just well enough to keep from getting a high draft pick (again), not make the playoffs (again), and will break the hearts of the fans (again). This bullshit about letting RT grow into his position and being ahead of schedule for where the team should be is just that- bullshit. You don't spend money and go after a Keller, Wallace, and Ellerbe if you're not trying to win now. They're not going to win now. Yet, every year you guys keep saying "next year." Meanwhile, next year comes and goes and there's always a myriad of excuses, but little else to show for it. -EK

I have to admit, I was on the Tannehill bandwagon to start the season, based on what I saw last season, with the limited weapons he had.  Then, to start the pre-season, he looked solid, making some nice throws and really connecting with Keller.

After the last couple of games though, I'm thinking about jumping off, if not throwing myself off of it. 

I said yesterday he seems to have the "Henne disease", which if you look in NFL medical books, is a disease where the QB pats the many times ball during his read progressions and stares down his WR, where upon his release of the ball, the ball is picked off by the opposing team.  I swear this a real disease!

Anyways, the pick-6 he threw yesterday, wow.  I mean, that's a rookie throw right there.
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He seems to have regressed the last 3 games at a rapid pace. Whether it's jumpy feet because his OL stinks or he's just not "getting it", I don't know.  But I do know, this MIA team cannot continue to make TOs at this rate and wins games.

And yet strangely enough, you didn't seem to be around to point these things out during week 2 or 3.

A coincidence, I assure you.

How is this entire thread not an anti-fins topic?

You are all worked up over a team you don't care about. Why? Once again WHY ARE YOU HERE??? You hate Miami, we get it. But you get all worked up over a team you could care less about.  Be happy your Panthers won yesterday and go post on a Panthers board! No need to "troll" here!

P.S...you have been wrong about Tim Tebow, Jerome Simpson, Tannehill, Mark Sanchez, Quinton Coples, Trent Richardson, and so many other things we have lost count!

 
EK is more than welcome to post here and to provide any opinion he wants to.

We provide a forum to discuss and differ in our opinions. And we welcome fans of any teams .. even jets fans if they ever chose to come post here as long as they stay within the rules we've set.

Correct! He is able to post here...and we are able to call him he is a tool when he posts nonsense! Just like we are able to ask him why he posts here.

Good day!

Exactly!

I'm as upset as anyone about our losses especially yesterday!   But, I'm not jumping or throwing myself of the Tanny Boy bandwagon. The effort Tanny gave just to get that Hail Mary throw off was incredible!  He avoided being sacked twice on that play and got it to the end zone. Problem is... only one of his targets made it to the end zone! Charles Clay was in the end zone with three Bills defenders Brandon Gibson apparently thought Tanny was sacked and quit on the route while Wallace was working back to the QB.   Had Gibson actually been in the end zone that may have been a legitimate shot at a score... but since he was late arriving all he could do was bat at the ball.    

philbin has got to go.   Also someone should make him start Moore, who at this point is the better QB.  Tanny has hit his ceiling.  Ross needs to call cowherd tomorrow and give him a blank check

Oh no, not this, not now.  The old "Let's fire everyone and start all over again" dance, after only 22 games for both of them.  You expect instant improvement overnight?  I will never get it. 

You win some, you lose some.  Teams that fire everyone after every loss will never be successful.  Ever.

I have to disagree Tony. Moore has absolutely hit his ceiling. I think Tanneyhill still has plenty of growth potential.

Of course, this whole Moore vs Tannhill debate is silly. Most 2nd year QB's have a TON of growth potential. He isn't even 8 games into his second season. How many 2nd year QB's (or rookie QB's) have won the Super Bowl? Any? I can't think of any!!

The Matt Moore people.....jesus christ really? Still? The guy has sucked everywhere he has been.

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The secret is to draft your QB in the sixth round.

Brady was drafted in 2000 and won the Superbowl in 2001. He had 15 regular season starts.

Roethlisberger also won it in his second year (drafted in 2007, won 2008).

While I don't agree that Moore should be playing instead of Tannehill, through 22 starts, their numbers aren't that disimilar. Moore had 26 TDs/17 INTs 9-13 record, 3 game-winning 4th qtr drives.  RT is at 21 TDs/20 TDs and a 10-12 record with 2 4th qtr come from behind drives.  It's not like RT is lighting up the stat sheet or distancing himself from Moore's numbers. Not sure how you can make the claim that Moore has sucked so badly, when he's basically not shown much difference in wins or stats than RT. There is a lot of room for growth with RT, absolutely. The problem is he hasn't shown much growth. The list of things I mentioned he was going to have a problem with coming out of college- too many turnovers, too many tipped balls, poor decision making in general, and standing in the pocket like the Statue of Liberty- he's still doing. -EK

On his 22nd start, Moore was a 5th-year veteran.  Try again.

My discussion with Moore was not what year he was in. It was a simply to point out that though equal number of starts, he didn't look any worse than Tannehill. 

Edit- and he was in his fourth year, not fifth. Try again. -EK

What about Big Ben.  He isn't going to make anyone's top 10 of all time. 

This is why you aren't taken seriously on this board. If you think RT hasn't shown  much growth you are lying to yourself or have no knowledge of football. He has improved since his rookie year and to say otherwise is just an incorrect statement or you trolling. Once again, Miami's offensive unit last year and this year isn't exactly a who's-who of talent. Not to say he is free of all blame, yes he is a 2nd year QB who makes some mistakes. But he has improved and to say he hasn't had any growth is beyond silly. And its just not true.  And the tipped balls isn't an issue this year at all, just untrue. And the Statue of Liberty comment makes no sense in all honesty...just so ya know!

Matt Moore sucks because he has failed at every stop he has been in. The day Moore

Yeah forgot to address that. He is the 2nd one. In the history of the NFL there are 2 players ever. Proving my point essentially that its pretty rare for a 2nd year QB to win a Super Bowl.  Extremely rare

Then that's a rather silly discussion to have.

By his 22nd start, Matt Moore had FIVE seasons to absorb and study the game.  He had the benefit of five seasons of coaching and five offseason programs.

It is ridiculous to compare that to a second-year player.

2007-08, CAR- 9 games, 3 starts
2008-09, CAR- 0 games, 0 starts (but he was still on the roster (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?id=3572017))
2009-10, CAR- 7 games, 5 starts
2010-11, CAR- 6 games, 5 starts
2011-12, MIA- 13 games, 12 starts

His 22nd start came in his fifth season in the NFL.