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Surprised nobody is talking about this game.

Big game for both franchises.

For NE -- while a loss would not end NE's playoff hopes worst case they would be tied for first place, -- losing at home against a not so great team after losing to the Jets the week before would certainly not bode well for the strength of the team.

For Mia -- a loss would put them two games+ back in division race, and would mean they would have both a losing record and a losing conf record, neither which bodes well for a wildcard.     

After losing three straight, Miami at least needs a psychological win.  Meaning if they lose, it better be a close game and it better not be a loss due to a bonehead play or multiple turnovers.

I think it is obvious what we are all thinking.  We have seen how this movie ends.

Only hope that we have is in Ellerbe returning and our secondary's health improving.  Either that or Brady eats some bad clam chowder.

According to my Pigskin Pick 'Em, 70% of fans believe that not only will NE win, but cover the 6.5. -EK

I just don't see Miami winning this game and frankly, I'm tired.  I'm just beat down in having hope only to have it stomped out.  I'm just going to watch and see how it goes and then re-evaluate.

I don't think its impossible for Miami to win this game.  That said, for that to happen, New England has to help.

Need Brady to be "off" as he has been, need their defense to make a few mistakes, and need Miami to play a pretty flawless game.  If all (or even some) of that comes true, Miami can win this game.

Back to reality...  I think the Dolphins hang in but lose on a late TD.

Miami 24
New England 30

The only hope Miami has is that Cameron Wake and Dion Jordan see significant time and both have a great game. Jason Taylor was a thorn in Brady's side for years and kept us in games. If these two guys can do what everyone says they can then we have a chance.

First off though is that they have to get on the field.

This is probably the most popular feeling amongst fans.

31-27 MIA

Pats - 31
Phins  - 17

 >:(

38-10 Pats. -EK

i don't see a blowout happening either way .. it'll be close and will stay under 7

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 ;D

-EK

Minions of the Hood:  34
Descendants of Flipper:  23

Brady feeds Gronk to the tune of 130 receiving yards and a pair of scores. Mike Wallace detaches himself from the side of the milk carton to catch 8 passes for 125 and a score. Two Tannehill turnovers in the second half (one int, one sack/fumble) spell Miami's demise...

 

Brady is due for a bad game.

Dolphins: 23
Pats: 14

Gotta find a way to stay optimistic.

Two QB's

QB1 - 55% Completions for 244 yd/game, 8 TD, 5 INT, 75.3 QB Rating
QB2 - 61% Completions for 263 yd/game, 9 TD, 7 INT, 83.1 QB Rating

Which one is "future hall of famer" and which one is "second year starter?"

Brady has had 6 bad games so far this season.  Just ask my fantasy team.

Surprised no one has mentioned this either, but the beating Tannehill is taking is apparently starting to take it's toll, as ESPN and NBC are reporting he was limited in practice this week wit a shoulder injury. -EK

Brady has been bad this season (not really his fault his supporting cast has sucked) but with Gronk back and if Amendola can stay healthy he will have a full supporting cast ready to roll. That's the thing about QB's, whether its Brady, Tannehill, or anyone else. Without a supporting cast they can't do it alone. Even one of the greatest QB's ever will struggle when his offense around him is stripped down to next to nothing.

Against Miami. Or is that still asking too much?

On the Cosmic List of Improbabilities, this lies right between "if pigs could fly" and "if Hell freezes over."

If Amendola sneezed really hard, he'd hyper-extend his sphincter...

Brady has been bad this season and, fortunately for the Dolphins, a lot of it HAS been his fault. He has been overthrowing and mistiming plays in a very uncharacteristic manner (when you overthrow someone 3-4 yards out of bounds, it's not a "timing" issue).

Unfortunately for the Dolphins, Gronk is back and even an unsteady performance from Brady is likely to be enough to win.

Overall, the Patriots present a bad matchup for the Dolphins:

-> Patriots have a really good pass D this year, even better than their 11th best in passing yards allowed would indicate. Conversely, their rushing D is worse than their 18th in allowed rushing yards indicate. Unfortunately, the Dolphins still can run worth a damn.

-> The Patriots one glaring weakness against the pass has been passes to #2 receivers (where they are actually dead last). Against #1s, TEs, running backs, and everything else, they've been a top-5 pass D. I'm not convinced Tannehill and Sherman can find a way to exploit that "narrow" weakness and the weak O-line will allow the Patriots to scheme at least partially around it.

-> We like to think the Dolphins are good at getting to opposing quarterbacks. The stats don't really back this up, though. 17 sacks is below league average and the Dolphins have seen more passing plays than most teams. Meanwhile, the Patriots have only allowed 11 sacks. The only bright spot is that injuries are a problem for the Pats O-line, so it hopefully isn't as good as it's season average (4 sacks allowed last week would seem to indicate as much).

I think there's a very real chance the Dolphins get run over tomorrow. Hopefully it won't come to that, but to have a chance to win, the Dolphins would have to play a lot of mistake free football (not what they've been doing recently, at any position) and hope the Patriots' woes with #2 receivers (technically Hartline) continues. On defense, the Dolphins really need the pass rush to step it up. Wake vs Vollmer has been a classic matchup for a while now and Wake needs to win this time around.

PATS: 27
PHINS: 20

If Wake only plays 22 snaps like he did last week, he will be a non-factor. Gotta feeling this injury Wake has will limit him all year. Might be a lost year for him

Wake was listed as questionable yesterday, but has been upgraded to probable today and he's listed as having participated fully in practice.

Local media have reported Philbin claiming Wake was 100%, but that he (Philbin) didn't want to risk pushing him last week. This week, though, Philbin expected Wake to get his usual workload.

Personally, I'm just as worried about Ellerbe, particularly against the Patriots with Gronk back. Ellerbe usually handles a lot of cleanup short middle. The Dolphins are last in the league vs tight ends, so any injuries there are going to hurt a lot.

We have no shot, unless we unleash the wildcat again. Oh wait we cant do that much less block anyone. We should give matt moore a shot at least he can throw the deep ball to wallace. Brady is gona carve up our secondary. Tell me again why we kept some of the secondary guys and let go smith and davis? We need to trade solia or starks for a rb or more oline help.

I don't think I can post anything regarding this without it being a personal attack, so I'll just say I disagree.

This has to be trolling, right?

Sadly there are members of the Dolphins fan community who think like this. Its pretty disheartening to hear that the vocal minority who do nothing hut sit in their lay-z-boy and second guess every single decision ever made (apparently including ones that work) are the ones that get attention. Makes the entire fan base look silly.

We all want to win games and trophies, but let's be realistic.

He's probably right. Their coaching is far superior. That alone will probably win the game for them. This team has shown that they can't hang and beat top tiered teams. It might be competitve for a little while but it won't ever feel like a possible win.

So true. And as I always say, Football is the most popular sport in America, yet it's also the least understood by its "fans." I mean read some of the posts on this site alone (let alone other message boards of sports teams) and its comical at times (not taking seriously the trolling posts by a select few on this site). People expect miracle turnarounds overnight, people expect 100% of draft picks and free agent pick-up's to be home runs and pro bowl players, people have no patience that when you draft a young QB he will take a couple years before they "put it all together." And fans always find the "one or two exceptions" in the near 100 year history of the NFL and want lightening to strike twice just for them and their team instead of having a common sense logical approach of how teams are built. I know its been a rough decade plus for Dolphins fans, but when they hired Philbin and started a rookie QB did you honestly expect them to be competing for a Super Bowl in year 2? You gotta be kidding me. And sometimes it is 2 steps forward, 1 step back. With lot of teams its like that. If some of the people on this site were Colts fans in 1998 they would have been ready to throw Peyton Manning to the curb after he threw 28 INT's as a rookie and was back up to 23 INT's come year 4!!Or after Troy Aikman threw 18 INT's as a rookie and a 2nd year QB and he didn't even play full seasons, fans on this site back in that day would be ready to take another QB in Rd 1 and give up quickly. When the Dolphins got rid of Dansby, Burnett, Bush, and other "older" players and went young they did it for a reason. They want to build something long-term that can sustain success. And going young means growing pains especially in this day of age where roster turnover from year to year is great and practice time is reduced. The Ravens and Bills games are living proof of it. The Fins were good enough to win those games, but young players and mistakes cost them the win. It happens. As long as you don't see the same mistakes over and over again, ya take your licks and live with it with a young team.

Fins will probably lose to NE today, and might lose to Cincy on Thursday. And at 3-5 some Dolphins fans (not the trollers) will want everyone fired, a handful of guys benched or cut, everyone will "suck"....this website will turn into a comedy website with nonsense and foolishness being posted. With $20 mill under the cap and a young core to build around who will get better in time.....if Ross rocks this boat and goes knee-jerk reaction stuff like idiot fans think, he is out of his mind! If the Fins go 3-13 or 4-12 that's one thing and might be time to re-evaluate. Great football teams aren't built overnight. And you can't revamp and entire roster overnight either in this league. And what this roster was in Sparano's last year to what it is today is night and friggin day!  It takes a draft or two before you see results from all your rookies.

It makes no sense and is down right funny that when fans come here in August predict the Fins to win 7, 8, or 9 games and point out flaws....then FLIP OUT in October when they are 3-3 and on pace to what they predicted! Why are you upset, you are what you thought they would be!!! It's comical. All of the fans on this site (once again, not the trollers) wants the team to win and what not....but patience.  Even at 3-0 they weren't gonna win the Super Bowl this year.

The Giants were ready to run Tom Coughlin out of town and give up on Eli back in the day...they didn't. They stuck with those 2 and in time look what it got them. Not saying Philbin and Tannehill are Coughlin and Eli and Miami will win multiple super bowl, but the bigger point is you don't give up on "the plan" after a year and a half and after a rough patch. Successful franchises just don't. There is a reason the Pittsburgh Steelers have had 3 head coaches since 1969 and have been successful!!

Good start by the defense

Good way to convert that turnover into seven points.   Now they have to keep up the momentum

Good effort by the defensive again.  The offense is looking okay.  But remember this is the Patriots

Nice start there no doubt, but on the 3rd and 5 there, why does he go short there Matthews, who doesnt even have the 1st down and there was Wallace in the upper right-hand side open on his cut back.  He's just too quick sometimes when he decides on his throw.  Make the reads dammit.

Damn, looks like Gibson is done for the day.  Hope it's not too serious, though it looks like it.

Anyone got a good stream? The one I'm using is popping and cracking like an old AM radio. Hope this ain't one of those last possession score, 30 second Brady comeback wins.

here you go man:
http://www.freevip.eu/american-football/179115/2/miami-dolphins-vs-new-england-patriots-live-stream-online.html

big play here on fourth and inches

Another great play. 

However, this game is far from over

It was not to see them be agressive there and get it.  We needed a TD there, NE will not go away for sure.  Let's keep this rolling, DEF playing nice and the offense making some nice calls to keep NE off-balance.

So far, McKinnie playing well at LT.  He swallowed up some players from what I've seen, and as a T you need to do that.

Would like to see Miller get the ball on the edges more, his speed I think can beat the Pats on the edges.

I didn't like the call where Wallace came in motion for the fake hand-off and he threw downfield to a covered Clay.  When you take out Wallace in the passing routes, you limit yourself, especially with Gibson out. 

Doesn't anyone know how many times MIA has given Wallace the ball on the WR motions?  I think I saw it one time last week.  PIT did it at key times for big gains, we haven't gotten there yet with that play call.

I think I just saw Philip Wheeler on the ground after making a tackle.  Good for him!

I'm so glad Ellerbe is back in the lineup, you can tell dramatically.

I've never been this uncomfortable with a 14 point lead in my life.

Did anyone hear Vollmer there?  Wow.  you could hear him scream from the sideline mic.  

I'll give you a +1 vote there.  :)

Wheeler within another play and tackle. Wow.

that's the biggest bullshit pass int call ever in the history of the world

What a horrible call.  God....every week with this crap.

Yep, the dolphins are playing the refs too

Shame of the game if the Dolphins lose is definitely the refs for this one

You gave them 3 points.  You just can't make calls like that unless you're totally sure.

I'm still pissed about that PI call.

Tom Brady with 25 passing yards with only 2 min to go in the first half! WOW!

The refs will be out in full force in the second half

BIG TIME KICK right there!!

ballsy call to go for that field goal

Wow.  He nailed that SOB with the wind in his face.  Sturgis, nice job.

I thought the same thing, wind in his face, NE could possible get the ball back with short field.  Got back 3 pts from that fockin bullshit PI call that resulted in NE's 3 pts.

Albert Breer of NFL.com reporting Brandon Gibson is out for the year with his knee injury. Torn Patella tendon

And that, New England, is how you make a FG WITHOUT the help of the refs.

First half stats are staggering. Total yards 179-59 in favor of Miami. Dolphins with over 100 yards rushing

What will the refs do to help the Patriots in the second half?

Another costly sack costs the Dolphins points

Ok I'm getting sick of defending Wallace.  All he does is drop balls.

to be fair .. that was the first sack of the game for the pats .. a massive improvement over what happened last week

And he came in unblocked on a stunt. With all of the shuffling on the o-line this week I ain't gonna complain just yet considering we are up 17-3 in Brady's house

Pats cut it to 7.

The Dolphins need to score at least one more time in this game.

That's the first TD Miami has allowed to a WR all season

Wallace has gotta make that catch to put us up 21 points.  He's played poorly today.

you gotta be kidding me

The o-line just imploded! Oh well

Another winnable game slips through the books

The Pats are about to throw everything at McKinnie right now after that last drive. Put a TE next to him!!!

lets go offense.  Need to respond

kicking woes continue to hurt us

That receiver got both feet in.  The replay showed it (I didn't notice), but a few friends did.

That's a tough one I don't blame him for holding the flag and not risk losing a timeout

Looked good to me, but I guess MIA coaches upstairs didnt feel confident enough to have Philbin throw the flag.

we are playing the refs

Patterson back in the game, good lay there to stop them on 3rd down.

This is true.

This could be the third straight week a missed field goal has cost Miami a game

unreal....HORRIBLE CALL!

These calls are unreal.

These refs have been paid off. Absolutely ridiculous.

This is a travesty to all that is good in the NFL

Pats trying to keep the wind and use their timeouts in the 3rd quarter. Either GENIUS or IDIOTIC. Talk to me in an hour...lol

Miami has no chance.  The refs will make sure that the Patriots win

This was a playoff contender being sabotaged by horrid officiating

Miami needs to address this with the NFL.  Make a statement or something.

KEEP RUNNING THE BALL!! It's working!! They can't stop it

Even my Patriots fan friends' father said that officiating was horrible

are you kidding me. Unreal

that call I think was correct.  But what an awful play call

The refs and Tannehill. Lol. So bad.

I just don't think Tannehill can make big throws.  Pure and simple.  There is no fockin reason he should be throwin that ball there into dbl-coverage.  Wallace is not Megatron or 6'5 WR.  Wow.

We have 130 yards rushing through 3 quarters and we get away from the run ...I don't get it. I really don't. They can't stop it yet we stop it and wanna throw it all day

TANNEHILL YOU SUCK!!!!!

WOW, even when we cause a fumble the Pats get a first down. No chance to win in NE. No chance at all

I cannot believe what I'm seeing.

This is awful.

Conspiracy

Even Phil Simms says the refs suck

Got to beat the refs before u beat the pats.  

This team just cannot win. So friggen annoying. Well, there's always next year.

These refs are unforgivable.  This is just the worst I've ever seen.  Ever.

Brady Fumbles, the Pats recover and its illegal tapping??? If Miami recovered you have something to talk about. The PATS GOT THE FUMBLE!!

I don't blame any of the players for this loss.  This loss is entirely on the officiating.

What the fuck was that call?!

I blame it on Sherman. When you have 130 yards rushing or so heading into the 4th quarter and you get away from the run that's on you. I mean seriously, keep Brady on the sideline, the Pats can't stop the run, and we are throwing like we have Montana and Rice/Taylor out there. It's beyond stupid

The fins can't come back from 10ptsdown. 

You don't blame tannehill for that horrible INT and losing us at least three points?

Agree this game is over. After the "fumble" call last drive it was over. That was our chance to stay in this game. Now its over

Nope. Not at all.

Tannehill would not have thrown the pick if the refs had made the right calls earlier

it wasn't horrible since the Pats needed to play vollyball to get an INT. The playcalling for the 2nd week in a row is the real problem

Ref's must be on Pats payroll!  

It's week 8 and Tanny still doesn't get it.. smh!!!

Everytime he has Wallace deep you can see him trying so hard not to overthrow him instead of just letting it go!  If he let's it go Wallace can run under it but he continuously under throws it which allows defenders to make a play on the ball.  Getting Wallace was a waste because Tanny just doesn't realize he needs to let Wallace go get it!

Everybody says the refs were horrid in this game

Meltdown central...

I can't tell you guys how much more relaxing this week has been not following another Miami loss.

Seriously, take a few weeks off and come back if you want. Don't ruin one of your 2 off days on this bullshit.

The refs made sure the the Patriots would win

This whole NFL season is now tainted for me

par for the course with the blocked kick. Unreal!

Get a friggin offensive line. How people haven't been cut yet is beyond me

I am so sick of Tannehill.  How many games will we give away because of his fumbles and interceptions before Philban gives Moore his chance?  THIS IS ONLY MY OPINION.
 I know the blocked FG was not his fault.  How many points off Tannehill's turnovers? TOO MANY

Wow now they can't even protect the kicker

I guess it tanny's fault that NE blocked the punt as well.   

of course! The o-line can't block period!!!

Wasted all that time to take a sack! LOL

Tanny just doesn't understand... I love him but he needs work!  He hasn't played with the urgency needed for situations like this. He takes too long getting guys lined up and wastes precious time.

Stealth read above... I said that.
Poor clock management. Where is the urgency?  We need 2 scores?

I know. My point exactly. I don't know how it can be illegal tapping when the team that fumbles recovers the fumble though. It's silly

Leave it to Miami to go from dominating in the 1st half to being dominated in the 2nd!   Pats go in make adjustments Dolphins fail to make any... game over!  THIS SEEMS TO BE A REOCCURRING PROBLEM NO MATTER WHO OUR HC IS!

I can't believe that they will be last in the division
I didn't expect first, but I didn't expect last either

I agree. What happened to the team we had in the first half?  But Tannehill has to stop taking so many sacks.  In Tannys defense, he does need better blocking but he holds it TOO LONG.

Marino says that Tanny will get a great QB once he gets some experience......  I don't know that I can wait that long. He is killing me! lol

When will u realize that it's not tanny's job to block.    He has no one that is open.   Who should he throw to so quickly.  

See.   Where's Wallace.   He overthrew him. 

I blame Sherman for the sacks in the 2nd half!  He didn't adjust o the adjustments the Pats made... the screen to Wallace was a good call, but they were few and far between.  I've said for weeks we needed to run more screens like that to Wallace.

What did I say above Stealth.... I said in his defense,  you reading only what you want?

I love the Dolphins.... I am sooooo passionate about our team but I can't believe we can be so good and then so bad.  We will see how it goes Thursday night..... I hope I am not still crying by then. My whole family are Pats fans and I will be hearing this for a long time.

Pure and simple, this game was changed by the Refs. The NFL can fockin suck it.  They're in the business of making sure the top teams do exactly that, stay at the top.

The refs were directly responsible for extending drives and providing NE with 17 points.  I don't give a shit what anyone says.

The phantom PI calls were so aggregious.  As a defender, you've got to just throw up your hands and say "What else can I do?"

The illegal touching on the fumble?  Wow.  The game is moving at a speed that 55-60 year attorneys can't see.  Clearly, his right arm was pinned and reached with his left hand and the ball squirted away.

Having said that, Tannehill is looking like Henne 2.0  Bad decisions on throws and TOs are the norm now.

Cant give up 6 or 7 sacks each game.  No QB can survive that or have much success getting hit like that.

Time to give Philbin his walking papers and start Moore. Pay cowher, draft a can't miss prospect.

Give Cowher a 1 year contract, w/ heavy incentives and a low base. If he doesn't work out, cut him. :)

Never thought I would agree with something like this after only a year and half but I'm starting to believe this might be the answer. We might need to move on and try again at this point...

When you dominate the first half, and the other team makes adjustments and just decimates you to the tune of 24-0 in the 2nd half, that is ALL coaching. I would say the last thing this team needs is more coaching turnover, but has anyone been impressed by this crew yet?

I sure as hell aint impressed.


Fireland can follow him out the door as well

Except for Mike Sherman I have no problem with this coaching staff