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Title: Remaining - (3) Games
Post by: masterfins on November 05, 2013, 05:15:37 pm
Looking at the remaining schedule it is certainly tougher than appeared at the start of the season.

@ Tampa     LOSS
Chargers 4-4
Panthers  5-3
@ Jets 5-4
@ Steelers 2-6
Pats 7-2
@ Bills 3-6
Jets 5-4

Chargers and Panthers playing better.  Jets defense playing good and winning games.  Steelers better than record, and it's a cold road game.  Already lost to the Bills at Home, now it's a cold road game with their starting QB back.  I see a handful of plays being the difference between a 7-9 team and a 9-7 team.


Title: Re: Remaining (8) games
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on November 05, 2013, 05:27:21 pm
Not to mention you lost two players from you OL and it wasn't that good to begin with. 


Title: Re: Remaining (8) games
Post by: masterfins on November 05, 2013, 05:41:56 pm
Not to mention you lost two players from you OL and it wasn't that good to begin with. 

Yeah, I was specifically not mentioning that, there are enough threads already on that topic.   ::)  Would rather focus on the ability of the opponents.


Title: Re: Remaining (8) games
Post by: EKnight on November 05, 2013, 06:17:56 pm
Said this weeks ago. Miami is a 7-9 team this year. The Panthers- who someone here called a joke- are only a game out of first place. The Jets defense is going to hammer anyone it plays. Pittsburgh in the cold is a hard game. The Pats are starting to play like the Pats again. Buffalo already beat Miami once. Still standing by TB getting a win this week. -EK


Title: Re: Remaining (8) games
Post by: MikeO on November 05, 2013, 06:26:01 pm
Looking at the remaining schedule it is certainly tougher than appeared at the start of the season.

@ Tampa
Chargers 4-4
Panthers  5-3
@ Jets 5-4
@ Steelers 2-6
Pats 7-2
@ Bills 3-6
Jets 5-4

Chargers and Panthers playing better.  Jets defense playing good and winning games.  Steelers better than record, and it's a cold road game.  Already lost to the Bills at Home, now it's a cold road game with their starting QB back.  I see a handful of plays being the difference between a 7-9 team and a 9-7 team.

The Jets have given up the 5th most points in the NFL. There defense is very average this year. Chargers are coming back to earth. Buffalo on the road will be tough. Panthers will be tough. Pats of course will be tough. 4-4 and every game left is winnable. Anywhere from 7-9 wins is realistic.

Honestly I'm not worried about losing Martin and Incognito. Our o-line sucked with them not sure it can get much worse without them. If anything it might light a fire under Sherman's ass to get more creative with the playcalling. Hell Lamar Miller just ran all over a good Cincy defense and Martin didn't play and Richie sat most of the game. So, like I said not having them won't hurt as much as some think


Title: Re: Remaining (8) games
Post by: Tenshot13 on November 05, 2013, 07:07:28 pm
Said this weeks ago. Miami is a 7-9 team this year. The Panthers- who someone here called a joke- are only a game out of first place. The Jets defense is going to hammer anyone it plays. Pittsburgh in the cold is a hard game. The Pats are starting to play like the Pats again. Buffalo already beat Miami once. Still standing by TB getting a win this week. -EK
Maybe joke was the wrong word. More like frauds. They haven't beat a team with a winning record this year, and lost to the Cards and Bills.


Title: Re: Remaining (8) games
Post by: Spider-Dan on November 05, 2013, 07:12:26 pm
Be careful using the word "fraud" on this forum.  Around here, every team is as good as their record* and if you think otherwise, you're probably just being argumentative.

*except Miami, who will apparently be the first team to lose to the 0-8 Buccaneers


Title: Re: Remaining (8) games
Post by: EKnight on November 05, 2013, 07:45:29 pm
Maybe joke was the wrong word. More like frauds. They haven't beat a team with a winning record this year, and lost to the Cards and Bills.

Glass houses.


*except Miami, who will apparently be the first team to lose to the 0-8 Buccaneers

Hear me now; believe me later. -EK


Title: Re: Remaining (8) games
Post by: Spider-Dan on November 05, 2013, 08:00:57 pm
Maybe joke was the wrong word. More like frauds. They haven't beat a team with a winning record this year, and lost to the Cards and Bills.

Glass houses.

So in Miami's case, wooden house with glass windows?  Because Miami has beaten two division leaders.


Title: Re: Remaining (8) games
Post by: Tenshot13 on November 05, 2013, 08:11:06 pm
Glass houses.

Hear me now; believe me later. -EK
Not saying the Bills loss wasn't bad for MIA, because it was. Just saying you lost to them too and you conveniently passed over my argument that CAR hasn't beat a legit team yet.


Title: Re: Remaining (8) games
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on November 05, 2013, 08:32:15 pm
Yeah, I was specifically not mentioning that, there are enough threads already on that topic. 

Actually that hasn't been discussed.  The threads are about hazing, no discussion of how your swiss cheese o-line has two more holes. 


Title: Re: Remaining (8) games
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on November 05, 2013, 09:27:31 pm
This is why I hate this team, because they should be 6-2 if not 7-1 if you want to go full fledge with the refs costing us the Pats game. How the hell did we lose to the Bills and Ravens?

After seeing these team's records, I no longer believe 9-7 is even a possibility, not after the hit the O-Line just took with Incognito gone.


Title: Re: Remaining (8) games
Post by: EKnight on November 05, 2013, 11:01:26 pm
Not saying the Bills loss wasn't bad for MIA, because it was. Just saying you lost to them too and you conveniently passed over my argument that CAR hasn't beat a legit team yet.

I didn't pass over it. What do you want me to say? You're right. You play the schedule you're given. It's not Carolina's fault they have had an easier schedule than Miami. I'm not even disputing that. This isn't a Panthers board, though, and the topic was Miami's last 8 games, not Carolina's.


In related playoff (but non-Dolphin) news, I think it's noteworthy to add that between the 5 common opponents of the Chiefs and Broncos, Denver has outscored the five by a total of 85 points, while KC has outscored them by 78. Not bad for a fraudulent team. -EK


Title: Re: Remaining (8) games
Post by: Tenshot13 on November 05, 2013, 11:48:16 pm
I didn't pass over it. What do you want me to say? You're right. You play the schedule you're given. It's not Carolina's fault they have had an easier schedule than Miami. I'm not even disputing that. This isn't a Panthers board, though, and the topic was Miami's last 8 games, not Carolina's.


In related playoff (but non-Dolphin) news, I think it's noteworthy to add that between the 5 common opponents of the Chiefs and Broncos, Denver has outscored the five by a total of 85 points, while KC has outscored them by 78. Not bad for a fraudulent team. -EK
Only reason we're talking about the Panthers here is your passive aggressive response regarding my comments in a different thread.  Fair enough though, Carolina has taken advantage of a weak schedule so far and I can't fault them for that.

Care to make a friendly avatar wager on the MIA v CAR game?  Winner picks a new avatar for the loser until after the Super Bowl. 


Title: Re: Remaining (8) games
Post by: EKnight on November 06, 2013, 07:22:32 am
As long as it's not vulgar, sure. -EK


Title: Re: Remaining (8) games
Post by: hordman on November 06, 2013, 08:13:44 am
*except Miami, who will apparently be the first team to lose to the 0-8 Buccaneers

Yeah, isn't that gonna suck next Monday?  My best friend is a huge, and I mean huge TB fan, and we're heading out to watch the game together.  I told him you may well have your 1st win of the season.  He said "No way, Tampa is really, really bad".

And my response? "Well, Miami is classic for under performing against bad teams"

I don't want them to lose on national TV on a Monday game against a punchless TB team.

Dammit, we need that game for all the shit coming down on us right now.


Title: Re: Remaining (8) games
Post by: Tenshot13 on November 06, 2013, 12:21:35 pm
As long as it's not vulgar, sure. -EK
Agreed nothing vulgar. Deal.


Title: Re: Remaining (8) games
Post by: CF DolFan on November 06, 2013, 03:28:36 pm
Monday's game will tell us a lot about this team.  They will either quit or come together. Seeing as how it seems like they feel they need to support Richie I would guess come together but with all the distractions I'm not sure how they can.


Title: Re: Remaining (8) games
Post by: Brian Fein on November 06, 2013, 03:51:21 pm
I have a difficult time focusing on my work with all this going on.  People keep talking about it non-stop in my office.  How on earth do the players focus on game plan and beating another (very hungry) team with 2000 media members in the locker room asking questions about THIS situation and not about the game?

I wish they could close the facility to the media for the week, citing excessive distraction.  I see no way we beat the Bucs this week with this much extra-curricular activity in the locker room.


Title: Re: Remaining (8) games
Post by: Dave Gray on November 06, 2013, 05:07:28 pm
I have a difficult time focusing on my work with all this going on.  People keep talking about it non-stop in my office.  How on earth do the players focus on game plan and beating another (very hungry) team with 2000 media members in the locker room asking questions about THIS situation and not about the game?

Exactly.  Can't have a screwed up locker room and expect to win.  Get rid of the ass-hats, create a supportive working environment, and build some character.


Title: Re: Remaining (8) games
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on November 06, 2013, 08:04:54 pm
I have a difficult time focusing on my work with all this going on.  People keep talking about it non-stop in my office.  How on earth do the players focus on game plan and beating another (very hungry) team with 2000 media members in the locker room asking questions about THIS situation and not about the game?



Good measure of Philban's leadership.  NEP won 17 games after camaragate. 


Title: Re: Remaining (8) games
Post by: CF DolFan on November 06, 2013, 08:06:51 pm
Exactly.  Can't have a screwed up locker room and expect to win.  Get rid of the ass-hats, create a supportive working environment, and build some character.
According to the players still there they already have that.


Title: Re: Remaining - (7) Games
Post by: masterfins on November 12, 2013, 12:24:57 am
Well after the debacle of a loss to the Bucs, the Dolphins are clearly NOT better than any team that remains on their schedule.  A team that starts 4-5 has an 11% chance of making the playoffs, obviously the playoffs are out of the question this year.  I'm sure they will win a game or two, perhaps get to (7) wins, worst case scenario they win a couple to appear they are back in the race so that they can disappoint us down the stretch.

So for the remainder of the season I'd really like to see the rookies get some meaningful game time.  Martin and Incognito need to be waived by next Friday, everyone knows they aren't coming back, so they really have zero trade value; time to put them behind us.

What do you guys wanna see the rest of the year??


Title: Re: Remaining - (7) Games
Post by: el diablo on November 12, 2013, 12:30:40 am
A trip to the wizard for a heart, a brain, and some courage.


Title: Re: Remaining - (7) Games
Post by: mecadonzilla on November 12, 2013, 12:31:41 am
They might keep Incognito for a few weeks until it becomes more mathematically cap sound to dump him after his suspension is up.  I don't know if there's any loophole to exploit with Martin.





Title: Re: Remaining - (7) Games
Post by: masterfins on December 08, 2013, 08:07:54 pm
I'm sure they will win a game or two, perhaps get to (7) wins, worst case scenario they win a couple to appear they are back in the race so that they can disappoint us down the stretch.


Well they have done it, made me feel like they have a good shot at the wildcard spot.  Both Miami and Baltimore play the Pats @ home, and Miami has the Bills on the road and the Jets @ home.  While the Ravens have a tougher schedule with Road games @ the Lions and @ the Cowboys.  I see Miami going into the final week with a game lead over the Ravens and having to beat the Jets at home.


Title: Re: Remaining - (3) Games
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on December 08, 2013, 08:42:30 pm
Hopefully, the Pats game is a wash for both teams, meaning we need to beat the Bills and Jets to get in. If the Cowboys need to win to get into the playoffs, then we are screwed. Dallas Cowboys in Week 17 are like A-Rod in October sans 2009.


Title: Re: Remaining - (3) Games
Post by: Spider-Dan on December 08, 2013, 09:37:00 pm
The Ravens don't play the Cowboys this year.  Their final game is @CIN, who will either be playing for a bye or for the division.


Title: Re: Remaining - (3) Games
Post by: MikeO on December 08, 2013, 09:45:52 pm
The Ravens don't play the Cowboys this year.  Their final game is @CIN, who will either be playing for a bye or for the division.

Cincy will be playing to NOT face the Ravens 2 weeks in a row. Cause after today Indy is the 4 seed (and  is pretty much locked in there with 3 to play) and KC is locked in at the 5 seed. So if Cincy wants to avoid the Ravens in the playoffs, beat them week 17 so you don't see them Round 1. Cause I don't think Cincy wants to see Baltimore a team that has their number in recent years in the playoffs.

NOW, if the Pats lock up the 2 seed, then Cincy with no BYE week might just lay down and play back-ups vs Baltimore week 17. Show them nothing and just get ready for a re-match 6 or 7 days later. But last time Marvin Lewis did that, (2009) he lost Week 1 of the playoffs to the Jets. Laid down Week 17 and lost to the Jets. Lost to the Jets in his building the following week in the playoffs. I hope Marvin learned his lesson.


Title: Re: Remaining - (3) Games
Post by: Run Ricky Run on December 08, 2013, 09:48:38 pm
Stealing one next week would be huge. 


Title: Re: Remaining - (3) Games
Post by: MikeO on December 08, 2013, 09:49:39 pm
Stealing one next week would be huge. 

If Miami wins next week I think even with a loss to Buffalo the Fins will beat the Jets and make the playoffs.

Don't think Baltimore will go 2-1 vs the Lions, Pats, and Bengals


Title: Re: Remaining - (3) Games
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on December 08, 2013, 10:17:16 pm
The Lions are so hit and miss, very hard to predict. I imagine they will lose to the Pats, leaving Week 17 against the Cowboys. That's almost a gimme if Dallas still has something to play for.


Title: Re: Remaining - (3) Games
Post by: BigDaddyFin on December 08, 2013, 10:19:21 pm
I don't want to give Baltimore more control over the situation than they already have.  If the Ravens have proven anything it's a knack for being a half-assed team can get hot at the right time and miracle their ass to wins they have no business getting. 

I say every game is a must-win from here on out. 

New England, at least we have the home field and don't have to deal with Gronkowski and the match up problems he presents.  However, I'm also not in the mood for another Brady Bullshit Comeback special.  And this team loves to blow double digit leads.  I'm sure we'll be playing the refs as well.

Buffalo in December is going to be a pain in the ass no matter how bad Buffalo is. 

The Jets are going to be playing for their jobs as I'm pretty sure Rex's fat ass is history after this season unless they go on a run. 


Title: Re: Remaining - (3) Games
Post by: dolphins4life on December 08, 2013, 10:28:46 pm
I don't think they can beat the Patriots.

And I don't think the Ravens can be stopped  :(


Title: Re: Remaining - (3) Games
Post by: Spider-Dan on December 08, 2013, 11:00:11 pm
Cincy will be playing to NOT face the Ravens 2 weeks in a row. Cause after today Indy is the 4 seed (and  is pretty much locked in there with 3 to play) and KC is locked in at the 5 seed. So if Cincy wants to avoid the Ravens in the playoffs, beat them week 17 so you don't see them Round 1. Cause I don't think Cincy wants to see Baltimore a team that has their number in recent years in the playoffs.

NOW, if the Pats lock up the 2 seed, then Cincy with no BYE week might just lay down and play back-ups vs Baltimore week 17.
Presuming that MIA and BAL are tied at that point, "laying down" would just guarantee that they would play BAL again.


Title: Re: Remaining - (3) Games
Post by: hordman on December 09, 2013, 08:35:09 am
I don't want to give Baltimore more control over the situation than they already have.  If the Ravens have proven anything it's a knack for being a half-assed team can get hot at the right time and miracle their ass to wins they have no business getting. 

ALL OF THIS

That win yesterday over MIN was total bullshit and classic "give the SB team a break" by the Refs.  Bad calls from what I saw.  This BAL team sucks left-hind teet and we should have never lost to this piss poor team.

Injuries by Wake and Ellerbe in that game made a huge difference on the DEF side of the ball and the "phantom" PI calls changed momentum.

Everytime BAL and PIT play each other, I hope for a meteor to hit the stadium, which would be a win-win for me.


Title: Re: Remaining - (3) Games
Post by: BigDaddyFin on December 09, 2013, 01:26:09 pm
Don't pray for a meteor. Pray for a 7-7 tie.  Nothing will wreck a season faster than two teams fighting for the same playoff spot who tie each other.