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Armando Salguero lays it out beautifully here

http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/11/12/3747622_p2/armando-salguero-miami-dolphins.html


I'm 100% on board with this line of thinking.  Keeping Ireland around cost this team a chance at Jim Harbaugh, Jeff Fisher, and Peyton Manning.  Now if you keep Philbin around, you'll lose a chance to get a reputable GM.  Time to blow up the whole thing and start from scratch again. 

^^^ +1

Anyone else find it ironic that the same year that MIA completely revamps their entire look and logo, the whole team goes in the shitter?

This shit storm has been brewing a while......from the debacles with Fireland, the rejects they have had at head coach, the under performing FAs they've brought in, some of their draft selections, etc.

I agree that we just go nuclear and start from scratch and bring back the original logo!!!!

My friends, its time to go nuclear. After the season is over. If it was only possible to fire an owner.

I disagree with Armando.  The reason we appear to be rudderless is because our players don't have the brain power to learn how to do their job at a high level.  We lack in talent and the primary lack of talent is in intellect because our GM has absolutely no ability to look at the smarts of a person.  Ireland only cares how big or fast a player is and simply gets lucky if they have a brain to go with it. 

I think Philbin would be an excellent head coach with a good group of players, not a bunch of boneheads.  Get rid of Ireland and Sherman, revamp the O-line and stop listening to the media! 

BTW - I hate the media!!!

I'm sorry but if you get rid of Ireland you have to get rid of Philbin.  Fish rot from the head on down and this team is doing the same.  Last night's game showed every reason not only why Jeff Ireland should be on his way out but also why Joe Philbin and his coaching staff should follow him out the door. 

Along with a shitty offensive line (which I must mention was shitty before this bullying mess) you have a team that's undisciplined (which is how bullying scandals and extreme locker room pranks happen), seems low on football IQ and has failed to develop over the course of the season.

Blame the media and the distractions all you want.  In the end, this goes back to Jeff Ireland and the front office (who bought the groceries) and Joe Philbin and his coaching staff (who can't cook them). The NFL isn't out to get the Dolphins, and the media doesn't want to destroy them either.  Even if they did, they wouldn't have to lift a goddamn finger. Last night's game proved once again that the Dolphins are capable of destroying themselves.

I disagree with Armando completely, he always has a bug up his you know where for the current management.  SOME changes do need to be made in the assistant coaches, as they are not getting enough out of the current players.  I think Ireland could be dumped without much of an effect on the team, but I'm not sure if that is the answer.  If Keller was not injured this could be a much better team.  If Bush was not dumped this would be a much better team.  Perhaps the Long re-signing could have been handled differently to retain him, maybe not.  In spite of some mistakes Philbin has made I'm not ready to give up on him yet, I think that would be a HUGE mistake at this point.

I don't agree with this at all.  They don't come from the same place, didn't come at the same time, and really have no connection to each other.

Ireland predates Philbin by several years, with an entirely different regime. 

If you think Bush would run with success behind this oline you are crazy. No RB is running behind this o-line and having success.

He ran better than both the guys currently on the roster when he was here, AND he can catch the ball, AND he could certainly block better.  I GUARANTEE he would have had more than two yards last night.  Thomas looks like Ronnie Brown in his last year here.  It simply amazes me that Thomas is even still on the roster.

You are crazy to think he could run behind this o-line. No RB in the league would have success behind this bunch. Seriously

Let's be honest with ourselves here. Bush is averaging 4.7 per carry. Miller 4.5 (including the horrible games of last night and Cleveland). The real issue is Miami does not have enough carries.

Let's be COMPLETELY honest- Bush also has over 300 receiving yards and is just a hair under 1000 yards from scrimmage already. He's still miles ahead of any RB on Miami's roster, and his pass blocking is sorely missed. -EK

Our discussion is not about receiving or blocking. It was about rushing stats so I focused the conversation there. If you want arguments over blocking ability or receiving stats you aren't getting one here. Try someone else.

You can't even talk about RBs.  It's not even relevant.  Whoever gets the ball is getting hit in the backfield.  Our O-line is doing very little in pass protection and nothing against the run.

A good line can make a bad RB look good.
But a good RB can't make a line look good.

Wtf? Are you shitting me? Masterfin's exact quote was, "He ran better than both the guys currently on the roster when he was here, AND he can catch the ball, AND he could certainly block better.

So, yes, receiving and blocking were absolutely part of the discussion. Just because Bush is great at them and that doesn't support your perspective doesn't mean it's not part of the discussion. -EK

Miller can't also call the plays that call for him to be thrown the ball ::)

Miami's RB's are pass blocking fine this year as well. Not sure what that is about

The first thing that apparently needs to be changed in Miami is the party culture on this football team.   That said, the team does NOT need a complete overhaul. 

The offensive line needs a complete overhaul.
The middle of the defensive line probably needs a complete overhaul.   

The secondary actually isn't playing that bad.
The linebackers are playing alright but they're a function of the problems on the defensive line up the middle.  The less you can stop the run, the more you gotta commit linebackers to the line of scrimmage.  And that line can't stop the run for shit.  You could have driven trucks through some of those holes last night, and all Tampa was doing was running a basic power play.  Over and over and over and over.

I don't think we need an overhaul at receiver/TE.  Clay played like shit last night but he's pretty solid normally and he's done a decent job of filling the void when Keller got hurt.  Matthews stepped up into the slot when Gibson went down, they're both solid.  Hartline isn't spectacular but he's doing a decent job.  We can argue whether he's worth what they're paying him.  Wallace I'm not sure what the hell to do with.  Part of me thinks we should get rid of him part of me thinks as long as Tannehill is getting hammered in the pocket like he is, it's not going to matter.

Running back we should keep Thigpen and Miller and get rid of Daniel Thomas.  You can get the same production out of a rookie that we get out of Thomas and I don't see what he adds to the offense that can't be found elsewhere. 

None of this shit matters though if you can't keep Tannehill upright.  Pouncey is the only guy I'd keep out of all of them and then if you need Gardner to stay on as a backup.  We need new Guards and new Tackles. 

Dolphins need an O-line before anyone else ... including Wallace, can be evaluated. I laugh when I read about Tannehill not going through progressions. When does he have time?  They also need to play Moore so that Tannehill will live to see next year (Joke).

Most of us knew the O-line would be our undoing this season but who would have ever thought they would have brought down the whole freaking franchise?  :o

I have to admit I have a knee jerk reaction when I watch Tannehill play and makes a bad throw. I admit I'm guilty of this alot.  But you're right, the OL needs to be fixed before we can truly determine if he's not the answer, as much as I hate to say it.  He does have an arm, stands big in the pocket, but his lack of line protection doesn't allow for him to always make the best read/decision.

The line on both sides of the ball allows for others on the team, LB, safeties (defensive side) and QB, playmakers (offensive side) to shine. Right now, the OL is bad, if not horrific, and this causes alot of problems.