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Two games against the Jets, At Pittsburgh, At Buffalo, New England.  Win them all you're 10-6.  Lose any of them especially the Pittsburgh game and you're probably screwed on the tie breakers. 

I'm not sure we have a chance either way.  5 4th quarter leads blown, three of them 10+ points.

Season is now definitely over. You can't believe that this team who plays so well in the first half and blows so many leads can even get to the wildcard.

That's on coach Philbin.  He needs to go along with Jeff Ireland

Playoffs are most likely out of reach, but I still think Miami is headed in the right direction and should not get rid of Philbin or Sherman. I actually think they have done a good job over the last 4 weeks with what has happened. If anyone needs to go it's on the Defensive side of the ball which was suppose to be the strength of the team and it isn't. I can forgive the offense after losing Keller, Gibson, Martin, Incognito and Pouncey. Clay, Mathews, Garner and the new kid on the line have done an admirable job of filling in the last 3 weeks but there's been very few injuries on the defensive side of the ball comparatively speaking and they keep coming up short when the game is on the line, both on the ground and in the air. Dimitri Patterson getting healthy would help, but there's really no excuse for teams being able to just run the ball down Miami's throat the way they have and come up with a 1st down after first down on 3rd or 4th and long. Got to have a new defensive coordinator who can actually get out of this defense what it should. There's enough players on that side of the ball to be a dominant defense and it's just no where close to it.

Even if they won today they weren't going to the playoffs. This o-line isn't good enough to win meaningful games late in the year. We can't run the ball at all. .

We aren't going in the right direction, we are standing still. We are just spending more money to do it now.

I hate rebooting the franchise every 2-3 years, but Philbin is 100% to blame for these 2nd half collapses. We scored 0 points today in the 2nd half and never moved the ball after having several red zone opportunities in the 1st half. Rivera made adjustments, we had no answer for them. Philbin is not a good coach. Maybe a good guy, but not a good coach.

I think we all agree that Ireland should walk as well.

Nobody expected the o-line to totally implode like this. Losing your center, left tackle, having Clabo be a total bust and lose it overnight and then have Incognito have a down year wasn't the gameplan.  We actually are going in the right direction. We have a franchise QB to build around. We have gotten younger and more athletic on defense causing many more turnovers. Problems is in this league...with no blocking and offensive line you can't win! Period!

If we had even a decent o-line we would have 2 more wins at this point. The offensive line has taken away our running game, forced us to use a rolling pocket at times which limits your playcalilng, it has killed this offenses this year. Throw in the Keller and Gibson injuries and its a mess. We are $20 mill under the cap and need to break the bank and buy a few o-linemen, draft one in Rd 1 and just revamp it.

If Ireland has to go fine...but we are moving in the right direction actually. The o-line meltdown on the field AND off has killed this season

Stopped reading here. RT is not a franchise anything. Even when he was hitting receivers today, they were bailing out his bad throws by making adjustments (ie, one of the Wallace long balls) as often as he was hitting them in stride. It's been a season and a half now, and all the predictions of how he's going to be a "rock star," are ridiculous. No one is buying that he's great or a franchise guy. Objectively looking at his numbers, he's not much better at this point than Henne was at the same time. Send him packing with the coach and GM. -EK

You are clueless when it comes to QB;s (Praising Tebow and Sanchez but ripping Tannehill).  He had another 300 yard day today vs a so called "GREAT DEFENSE." And stop trying to paint yourself as objective, you aren't when you say send Tannehill packing. You come off as an uneducated ass clown!

From the Miami Herald:
The good news: Tannehill produced a higher quarterback rating in his first 25 starts than Peyton Manning, Eli Manning and Drew Brees.

Once again you have no clue what you are talking about!

Said the guy who thought Peyton's record setting rookie season was horrible and predicted that Lamar Miller- who averaged less than a yard per carry for the third time this year- would be a home run threat. When RT's rookie contract is done and he walks because he isn't the answer, talk to me then.

No one cares if he had 300 yards. This isn't fantasy football. He couldn't get in the end zone when it mattered. Newton had 174 passing yards to RT's 300. Who do you think had the better game though? Winning matters. -EK

lol, yeah ok. You are such a good judge of talent when it comes to QB's, who's Tebow playing for these days? Oh wait. . Tannehill is having a very good year. When all is said and done probably a better year than Luck and RG III will have this season at worse it will be equal years to them but most likely better when all is said and done. Playing behind a 2nd string o-line no less. But send Tannehill walking when his contract is up. you are clueless when it comes to professional football. CLUELESS!!

Tannehill was very inaccurate today.  Wallace kept getting open and Tannehill either overthrew or underthrew him.  I'm starting to have my doubts about him. I'd give him another year and if he doesn't show improvement, trade up to draft Famous Jameis in 2015

ha ha, another clueless one. Yeah Tannehill is the problem in Miami.  ::)

And you want to draft a guy (if he isn't in jail) about to be charged with rape...great. More off the field drama in Miami.

Do you guys watch other games around the league? Luck has 84 yards today. RGIII has been getting ripped by his coach for being poor. You expect superstar QB's to happen overnight. Hell even Brees took a few years before he became great.

See, Mike? The shine is staring to run off of Tannehill. Even other Phins fans can see he's no franchise QB. Wait, wait- tell me more about how Miller was an upgrade over Bush. Remind me why Wallace will be a better receiver than Marshall. Reiterate why it was a smart move letting Long walk. You want clueless? That's clueless! -EK

According to who? You and another idiot on a message board? LOL LOL

One idiot's opinion doesn't validate another idiot's opinion.  LOL

-Wallace doesn't get arrested, Marshall always does. You are MR. NO THUGS AND GANGSTA's now right? Get rid of Incognito for being a bully but keep around multiple time wife beater?

-Bush is old and was average last year in Miami, would rather pay Miller far less than overpay for an old RB

-Miami offered Long MORE money than St.Louis, if Long took less money to go elsewhere that's on him. Nothing Miami could do!

Why are we still debating this?

He's not going to be charged

doesn't make him innocent!!! Just makes him a guy with some off the field issues to be concerned about going forward

And yet, NO ONE is coming to your defense or agreeing with you. Speaks volumes.

The fact that you don't actually work for an NFL team should clue you in that maybe you don't know any more than anyone else. Tannehill is not a franchise QB and no matter how much that pisses you off, it's reality. -EK

You don't work for an NFL team either!! Are you a total moron? You might be!! I mean that is the dumbest response to a post ever on this site by you!

And because nobody responds to my post within 3 minutes doesn't mean nobody agrees with me. And honestly I don't care if anyone on here agrees with me, the opinion of people that work in the league agree with me. Which they do.

With a patchwork offensive line, fair to decent WR's and TE's and no dominant RB to bail him out. Tannehill IS the whole offense and the defense knows it. That he is able to look average under these conditions in his second year in the league is a testament to his ability. It's not a given that he'll be a great QB when they fix these issues, but he'll be more than capable of leading the team into the playoffs and beyond. He is far and away the best QB that Miami has had since Marino at this point in his career. Only Chad Pennington was able to do more, but that was after years in the league as a seasoned vet. If Pennington had this line he would have been out by week 3.

No, I don't, but I'm also not calling everyone who disagrees with me a moron. The opinion of people that work in the league certainly does NOT back you up. I didn't see anyone else clamoring to draft Tannehill. In fact, some people who worked in the league had him rated far behind Nick Foles, and as I recall, someone referred to him as a the second coming of Jamarcus Russell. I also haven't seen a single coordinator or opposing player say that he's a franchise QB or that they need to be concerned about his ability. I have heard, recently, from someone who covers the league that Tannehill would have cost a coach his job had he been drafted earlier. -EK

I still like Tannehill. His repoire with Wallace sucks and he needs more accuracy on his deep passes, but he has very good agility and a good arm. Of all the problems this team has, I am not worried about him nor am I worried about the running game.

If we don't break the bank on free agent O-Line players, then I am worried.

Exactly, Thank You someone get's it!! Tannehill probably won't be the next Brady, Peyton, Rodgers, or Brees. But he might be the next Eli. And I got no problem if his ceiling is Eli. I got no problem if that's his ceiling. As a QB who when you put a team around him is good enough to lead the team to wins.  Tannehill with this o-line, no running game at all, and with the injuries to Keller and Gibson is having a very good year. To think about replacing him is beyond stupid on every level! Only an utter idiot would think about moving on from him and replacing him. Tannehill isn't the problem!!

And for all of the talk of Luck and RGII and the hype they get. Line up all of there stat lines for this year and look at them as of today. They are all identical for the most part. You think Indy and Washington fans want to move on from them? Give me a break! As of today they all have 14 TD's. Tannehill's has the highest completion %, but by a little all are in the same ballpark for the most part. Luck and Tannehill have almost identical yards. RGII has like 200 hundred more yards, essentially they are all equal there.  All of there QB ratings are about the same within a few points (87, 83, 81). INT wise Tanny and RGIII have 11 and 10. Luck has less at 6. Average pass compeltion, 7.3, 7.0, 6.7..again all essentially the same.  Not like one guy is far and ahead better than the other 2. They all are about the same at this point in 2013.  Think Indy and Washington are thinking about moving on from there 2nd year QB's? Seriously some of you people need to wake up and get a clue!

Shannhan wanted to draft him at #6 and liked him over RGIII....it came out this week.

When you say stuff that is moronic like Tebow is a Top 10 NFL QB and Miami should move on from Tannehll...expect to be called a moron. That's how it works. When you say stuff that is so insane and out in left field, it's gonna happen! You say it often, hence you get called it often

Clearly they were 100% wrong on the Russell comparison. DEAD WRONG. So that opinion was worthless!

The team is what the team is.  An average team.  I'm not all that amped up to see them make the playoffs and get stomped in the first round anyway.  All in all, I still think they are moving (slightly) in the right direction overall.  But they are not a playoff team yet.  And even if they do squeek in somehow, they aren't going far.  I just hope they can get the pieces that are needed to replace the weak areas of the team before the areas that are strong become older and "less good". 

Trust me when I say he is innocent. 

You have some inside information from your make-believe teaching job? 

LOL. Sorry Landshark, can't just take your word on it. The evidence seems pretty overwhelming with the news of the DNA sample

I've met Willie Meggs (the State Attorney) several times over the years and he never makes a move without everything being in place. The DNA matched but the rape kit showed no signs of trauma.  If it did, Winston would be in jail right now.  No way would they let a rapist roam the campus.  Winston has maintained all along that it was consensual and has witnesses to prove it.  The girl on the other hand originally claimed that she didn't know who get attacker was, then identified Winston a month later.  Meggs is in the process of gathering phone records because apparently the girl and Winston conversed by phone and text before and after this alleged incident occurred.

Winston not working with the police is a huge red flag to me. Hop you are correct, but until more facts come out I have my doubts to say Winston is innocent.

Why is Winston even relevant?  He doesn't play football for the Dolphins. 

By law he doesn't have to. By making his statements through his lawyer and then sitting back and watching the girl's attorney singing mud everywhere, it only makes him Look better the longer this drags on.  The police never even interviewed him

I think this has run its course. We aren't discussing the original topic at all and pushed the envelope of name calling.