Title: Question About Philbin Post by: dolphins4life on December 29, 2013, 04:55:08 pm I couldn't watch either of the last two games except the second half of the Jets game.
Anyway, why is this his fault? Did he make bad decisions? It seemed to me that the team rolled over and played dead. Idk how you can pin that on him. The Dolphins need to shore up that oline. Then, they can win those close games at the beginning of the season and not be in positions like this. Well, this was the most frustrating season I have ever had to experience, but who cares. Title: Re: Question About Philbin Post by: MikeO on December 29, 2013, 05:18:54 pm The thing that protects Philbin is he has no say over the roster. Ireland has final say over ALL (yes ALL) roster moves.
Philbin will be given another year or two before he goes anywhere Title: Re: Question About Philbin Post by: Landshark on December 29, 2013, 05:36:32 pm The thing that protects Philbin is he has no say over the roster. Ireland has final say over ALL (yes ALL) roster moves. Philbin will be given another year or two before he goes anywhere What does Philbin bring to the table? Good leader of men? Hell no. Good game manager? Not even close. Can he build a good staff? Apparently not. Smart adjustments? You've gotta be kidding me. Does he inspire confidence from the fans? No way. Mike Sherman's sorry play calling is holding this team, including Tannehill, back. But Philbin has defined roles as well, and he has completely failed them. Title: Re: Question About Philbin Post by: MikeO on December 29, 2013, 05:39:32 pm What does Philbin bring to the table? Good leader of men? Hell no. Good game manager? Not even close. Can he build a good staff? Apparently not. Smart adjustments? You've gotta be kidding me. Does he inspire confidence from the fans? No way. Mike Sherman's sorry play calling is holding this team, including Tannehill, back. But Philbin has defined roles as well, and he has completely failed them. He only lost 1 replay challenge all year, he seems to have that down to a science. While he isn't Lombardi he isn't as bad as you make him out to be. With a horrible o-line and 2 DT's who played awful all year....there is only so much a coach can do. When you lose the battles on both lines of scrimmage, its impossible to win big in this league. Philbin tried to get rid of Richie a year ago, he was told no. That entire mess could have been avoided IF they listened to him. They didn't. It's stuff like that which keeps Philbin safe in Miami Title: Re: Question About Philbin Post by: dolphins4life on December 29, 2013, 06:03:47 pm idk how much an effect the Martin scandal had on the team
Title: Re: Question About Philbin Post by: Run Ricky Run on December 29, 2013, 06:07:15 pm He only lost 1 replay challenge all year, he seems to have that down to a science. While he isn't Lombardi he isn't as bad as you make him out to be. With a horrible o-line and 2 DT's who played awful all year....there is only so much a coach can do. When you lose the battles on both lines of scrimmage, its impossible to win big in this league. Philbin tried to get rid of Richie a year ago, he was told no. That entire mess could have been avoided IF they listened to him. They didn't. It's stuff like that which keeps Philbin safe in Miami He only lost 1 challenge because he is such a pussy, he won't challenge anything that isn't 100% a lock. He has no charisma. Title: Re: Question About Philbin Post by: CF DolFan on December 29, 2013, 06:09:41 pm He only lost 1 replay challenge all year, he seems to have that down to a science. While he isn't Lombardi he isn't as bad as you make him out to be. With a horrible o-line and 2 DT's who played awful all year....there is only so much a coach can do. When you lose the battles on both lines of scrimmage, its impossible to win big in this league. Upon further review I think our LBs make the two DT look worse than they are. Neither one of them are great run stoppers. Philbin tried to get rid of Richie a year ago, he was told no. That entire mess could have been avoided IF they listened to him. They didn't. It's stuff like that which keeps Philbin safe in Miami Title: Re: Question About Philbin Post by: MikeO on December 29, 2013, 06:14:43 pm Upon further review I think our LBs make the two DT look worse than they are. Neither one of them are great run stoppers. Yeah I don't agree with that at all Title: Re: Question About Philbin Post by: Run Ricky Run on December 29, 2013, 06:17:10 pm Yes, focus on the defense and not the offense that scored 7 points in the final 2 games. Maybe Ireland can spend a 1st or 2nd round draft pick on a defensive end for like the 42nd time this year.
Title: Re: Question About Philbin Post by: MikeO on January 01, 2014, 08:49:18 pm He only lost 1 challenge because he is such a pussy, he won't challenge anything that isn't 100% a lock. He has no charisma. um, isn't that the smart thing to do instead of wasting a timeout?! ::) Title: Re: Question About Philbin Post by: Landshark on January 01, 2014, 10:05:37 pm um, isn't that the smart thing to do instead of wasting a timeout?! ::) Every team has a replay consultant up in the booth. From what I've heard he rarely ever took the advice of his replay consultant Title: Re: Question About Philbin Post by: MikeO on January 01, 2014, 10:10:25 pm Every team has a replay consultant up in the booth. From what I've heard he rarely ever took the advice of his replay consultant then how in the hell did he only lose 1 challenge all year? Was he just lucky? And who the hell do you know that would tell you such an "inside" thing? I call BS on all of this Title: Re: Question About Philbin Post by: Landshark on January 01, 2014, 10:20:02 pm then how in the hell did he only lose 1 challenge all year? Was he just lucky? And who the hell do you know that would tell you such an "inside" thing? I call BS on all of this Because he rarely challenged Title: Re: Question About Philbin Post by: MikeO on January 01, 2014, 10:27:56 pm Because he rarely challenged because he didn't want to be risky with losing timeouts. Which coach wants to challenge for the sake of challenging and lose a timeout? When he did challenge he won all but 1 of them!!! How is that not a good thing? Whoever was telling him to challenge plays was doing a damn good friggin job cause they got them almost all right minus one. Now back to the other question, who told you he didn't take the advice of the replay person telling him when and when not to challenge? Cause honestly that sounds like something you made up and pulled out of your ass. You would have no way of knowing that! Admit you made it up Title: Re: Question About Philbin Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on January 02, 2014, 10:32:28 am The question is: Did he miss opportunities? E.g. can you point to multiple challenges he almost certainly would have won that could have altered the game?
If yes, than he isn't doing a good job, by not challenging. If no, than he is. Title: Re: Question About Philbin Post by: Tenshot13 on January 02, 2014, 10:41:00 am The question is: Did he miss opportunities? E.g. can you point to multiple challenges he almost certainly would have won that could have altered the game? If yes, than he isn't doing a good job, by not challenging. If no, than he is. I honestly can't think of one. Title: Re: Question About Philbin Post by: CF DolFan on January 02, 2014, 10:42:35 am The average team challenged less than 5 times in 2012. He's over that with a stellar record. I really don't think his challenges are an issue.
Title: Re: Question About Philbin Post by: MikeO on January 02, 2014, 11:19:11 am The question is: Did he miss opportunities? E.g. can you point to multiple challenges he almost certainly would have won that could have altered the game? If yes, than he isn't doing a good job, by not challenging. If no, than he is. You only get so many challenges a game. You guys do know that right?! Where are these examples you speak of. List a couple.... Title: Re: Question About Philbin Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on January 02, 2014, 11:31:51 am You only get so many challenges a game. You guys do know that right?! Where are these examples you speak of. List a couple.... Yes, I know you get 2-3 challenges per game. And I don't have a list of examples. I watched two Dolphins games this year (both against NE). My point was how the analysis should be done, not the answer to the question. One can obtain a very high % of being right by being too conservative OR by being very good. The high % by itself is meaningless. If there are examples where he should have thrown the red flag and not doing so cost the Dolphins points then he is being to conservative. If on the other hand no examples exist than he is doing a good job. Title: Re: Question About Philbin Post by: Phishfan on January 02, 2014, 11:48:11 am I can't remember watching any plays where I yelled for the challenge flag and he did not throw it.
Title: Re: Question About Philbin Post by: MikeO on January 02, 2014, 11:49:12 am Yes, I know you get 2-3 challenges per game. And I don't have a list of examples. I watched two Dolphins games this year (both against NE). My point was how the analysis should be done, not the answer to the question. One can obtain a very high % of being right by being too conservative OR by being very good. The high % by itself is meaningless. If there are examples where he should have thrown the red flag and not doing so cost the Dolphins points then he is being to conservative. If on the other hand no examples exist than he is doing a good job. And that's my point. Unless you (or anyone here) can list examples....this is silly. It's an empty statement without examples. Name the "KEY" plays he should have challenged that he didn't in games Miami lost? Otherwise its just a case of people bitching for the sake of bitching. Examples!!!! Title: Re: Question About Philbin Post by: MikeO on January 02, 2014, 11:49:28 am I can't remember watching any plays where I yelled for the challenge flag and he did not throw it. Me either. And I watched EVERY game |