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Some possible backstory on Sherman's repeated postgame dissing of Crabtree:

http://seattletimes.com/html/jerrybrewer/2022711709_brewercolumnseahawks20xml.html

"Sherman has been upset with Crabtree since last summer. Both attended Arizona star receiver Larry Fitzgerald’s charity event. While there, Sherman went to shake Crabtree’s hand, and Crabtree tried to start a fight, according to Sherman’s older brother, Branton.

'I’m going to make a play and embarrass him,' Richard Sherman vowed that day."

Sherman won. Then he barked at Crabtree and gave Kaepernick the choke sign, which drew a penalty. An hour later, the loose-lipped star wasn’t finished.


Reminds me of an arsehole coach who used to be with the Jets. I wonder what happened to him? Oh that's right. He's Marshall's coach.

 

I actually think Sherman picked up his habits from his college coach.  Emotion is just part of the game!

You mean Sherman?

I think the word "allegedly" should be bolded, underlined and then repeated for emphasis. The only source of that report is Sherman's brother...

From what I've seen of the two players, I'd say that Sherman is the one far more likely to start a fight. The whole "went over to shake his hand" sounds like something a normal, rational and reasonable person would do. That just doesn't correlate very closely with what I've seen of Sherman's personality. An extremely arrogant and obnoxious person who openly hates the 49ers and their coach, and according to his brother, he just went up to shake Crabtree's hand. Yeah, riiiiiight!

In other parallel-dimension news, it is reported by Jeffrey Dahmer's brother that he only wanted to assist his victims in trimming their fingernails...

Filed under G, for "go figure"... The person who posted this tripe is the board's self-professed 49er-hater.

Is that in the "Go Figure" file right after avowed 49er fan immediately dismisses a story that gives a motive behind the attack on a SF player?  Pretty funny that you indignantly accuse me of bias... as if you're somehow an objective observer on the topic.

If we're going to keep up the pretense of respect for journalistic integrity, then there's a first-person source available (http://mmqb.si.com/2014/01/20/richard-sherman-interview-michael-crabtree/):

"But that’s not why I don’t like the man. It goes back to something he said to me this offseason in Arizona, but you’d have to ask him about that. A lot of what I said to Andrews was adrenaline talking, and some of that was Crabtree. I just don’t like him. "

But maybe you're right.  Maybe Sherman just went off the handle shouting crazily in an interview because that's what he usually does in interviews, and Crabtree never actually did or said anything out of the ordinary.

No immediately about it...it was read, weighed, considered, reconsidered...and then dismissed.


You see, you found the logic, and it took you less than 10 posts and twenty semantic twists to get there. You're making progress, Spidey...slowly but surely.

Perhaps I was a bit too subtle for you...

Sherman doesn't normally shout crazily in his interviews.  (Contrast this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAvMDjXiG7w) interview after SEA beat NE last year.)  That's the point.

If, as you say, there's no there there, then why is Sherman lying about an imaginary incident in Arizona?  And when did you develop this rigorous requirement for multiple independent corroborations of evidence when talking about a feud between two players?

I'm going to assume there is some new twist in the post above, but I just don't have the patience to read any more from you on this topic.

^^^ dear lord.

So Sunstroke is too impatient to read the response... but that sure doesn't stop him from putting up another reply!  Just to make it absolutely clear that he is DEFINITELY NOT reading whatever it was that I might have said in that post.  That he didn't read.

Listen, if it makes you feel better to dismiss this thread as 49er hate, then go right ahead.  A quick Google of, say, "sherman crabtree charity" would make it pretty clear that the media seems to be giving this story some credence, as well.  But maybe they are all also biased against the 49ers!

yeah ... him too. lol

Really doesn't matter what the back story is. Sherman came across as an incoherent goon and only embarrassed himself on national tv to the point that the interviewer had to cut the interview back to the analysts. I hope Manning lights his ass up multiple times.

Sound and fury signifying nothing.

I don't doubt there is some backstory/history. 

And while I prefer the understated method of doing pressers employed by Belichick rather than the in your face method of Rex Ryan, ultimately none of these guys are hired to be spokesmen. 

Crabtree is judged on his ability to get open and catch the ball, Sherman on how well he prevents that. 

If speaking coherently matter for anything in the NFL, Tim Tebow could beat out most of the starting QBs in the league. 

Sherman is one of the smartest, well spoken athletes in the league.  Do not let one :10 second sound byte fool you. 

He's also earned the right to speak his mind. His play justifies it.

This topic reminds me of the Tebow debate.  I find it funny how passionate people get to either crucify or commend Sherman.

If the guy just lost it in the moment, then later got his composure and handled himself, I can forgive that.  But I don't like that he was an asshole in the moment, then an asshole afterward in the celebration, and then an asshole, trying to justify it in writing later.

Dude's just an asshole.

Trash talking douchebag plain and simple.

It seems to me that the issue is that since Crabtree's interactions with Sherman are not (more) public knowledge, Sherman is out of line by making his responses public?  Was Sherman also being a douchebag when he tore into Brady's better-than "look at the scoreboard, loser" talk during the SEA-NE game?

Again, I can't completely dismiss my own bias, because I liked seeing Brady get humbled, too.  But I have no problem with Sherman calling out players that like to run their mouth during the game but act like they're above it all afterward.  At least Sherman is consistent.

If you read Sherman's statements about the Broncos, he's been nothing but respectful.

I'm sure a friendly reminder by his coaching staff about distractions & media attention had less to do with that than Sherman's natural instincts.

Carroll is not Belichick.  If he believed in the "shut your mouth and do your job" philosophy, Sherman would not have been permitted to go into his postgame presser and call Crabtree a mediocre receiver about ten times in 3 minutes.

This is also several days later and still in the news. The directive may have come from above Carroll but I would bet money someone sent the message to tone things down slightly.

Unless you think Paul Allen is getting involved, there is no "above Carroll."  Carroll is the executive VP of football operations and has the final say on all football decisions; the Seahawks GM only serves in an advisory role to him (and he was directly hired by Carroll).

Generally speaking, Sherman talks trash to trash talkers.  The Seahawks have not played the Broncos since Sherman entered the league and outside of possibly Welker, there really isn't anyone on the Broncos that has an opportunity to say things about him.

^ No, you're overcomplicating.  It's not about who knows what, when....it's not about thuggery or how eloquent he is or his education or race or any of the other things that are being tossed around in the media.

I don't like people who taunt after a game is over.  Especially to the public.  And especially multiple times likes a maniac.  ...giving the choke sign to Kapernick, mocking Crabtree after the game and again in the postgame interview.  ...taking a team victory and making it all about himself.

He's a jerkoff.

It appears it did come from Carroll. Pete Carroll pulled Richard Sherman aside on Monday and made sure his fiery cornerback understood that his rant against San Francisco's Michael Crabtree was overshadowing the Seattle Seahawks reaching their second Super Bowl in franchise history.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/20/pete-carroll-richard-sherman-sorry_n_4634274.html?seattle-seahawks

Fair enough.  Looks like Carroll did rein him in.

STOP THIS!

That's the second time today that someone around here has accepted facts when presented. That's just not how things are done.