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Will be the story of the week nationally. The weather is supposed to be bad early in the week for all the "events" in the lead up to the game. Bitter bitter cold with some snow/freezing rain. Still too early to tell what it will be like at gameday, early projections aren't great though. But better weather than what they will see early in the week. But moving the game off Sunday or to early afternoon Sunday might happen just for public safety in general.

NFL is prepared to move the game to Friday, Saturday, or earlier in the day Sunday (they have a Monday plan but don't want to do that per Eric Grubman). Come around Thursday (give or take) that decision will be made. Moving the game to Saturday at 6:30pm is a very very real possibility, that is their top choice NFL Exec Grubman said the other day and he is the guy who makes this call. Friday they could do but would rather not according to Grubman. The NFL has stated it only needs 36 hours lead time to move the game. And moving the game to 2pm or so Sunday might also work if they see a weather pattern that will be bad Sunday evening and effect travel after the game or people freezing in the stans with really low tempatures. In fact Eric Grubman on WFAN this week said with the info he had at the moment (of course its weather it will change over the week) he would be very surprised if the game is played Sunday at 6:30pm. But if he had to make a call that day he was moving the game but weather changes so it will play out.

What we also know is that this will probably be the only "cold weather super bowl." Not a lot of fan interest and this weather chaos is making it a huge headache for the league.  The game is sold out obviously but its going to be a heavy Denver crowd. All of the tickets/hotel packages from Denver to NYC sold out within a day. Fans in Colorado bought them up quickly. Seattle has had trouble selling their alloted packages, zero interest from Seattle. Not a lot of Seattle people willing to make the trip. So those extra packages will end up in the hands of Denver people probably. And the seondary ticket market (ie broakers, stub hub...etc) aren't moving tickets at all. Insiders have termed it a "dead ticket." Shocking people don't want to pay big money to sit outside for 6 hours in the freezing cold.

If the NFL moves the game it will create chaos. No other sporting events run opposite the Super Bowl. And if the game is moved to Saturday Night the league has a mess because you have NHL, NBA, College basketball all with games at the same time and they have said they aren't canceling games. MSG has a Rangers game I believe in NYC going on that night. The TV rating might not be good beause sports fans around the country will be at other events they have already paid for.

This is going to be a very interesting week

This game should've never happened. The NFL is gonna pay dearly for making this decision

pay dearly how? You gonna put a "hit" on the people in charge of the NFL? Talk about over-dramatic I mean seriously Landshark.

It will stll be the most watched thing in the country this year and the league will still make billions on this game.

Pay dearly as in the weather causing massive problems and chaos if events have to be rescheduled.  This is why the game should not be at an open aired stadium in a cold weather location

The only thing that will "possibly" be rescheduled is the game. No other events are being rescheduled or cancled

I will be really, really shocked if they move the game at all....even moving it to early Sunday seems almost impossible in my mind.  Unless there are no other options, I believe it will go on as planned.  So many eyeballs are casual fans at parties and stuff like that.  Those would be in jeopardy (and many lost) because people's plans will change.  Of course, I would watch if they moved the game to 4 AM on Tuesday, but a lot of people just watch because it's the thing to do -- like my wife for example.  She doesn't give one squat about football, but she watches every Super Bowl, because it's an event.

lol, they ain't worried about people having parties at their home across the county. They are worried about getting people to and from the game in a safe manner where nobody dies!  Public Safety, it's the only reason they will move the game.  They don't care about the TV rating or your party with your neighbors.  They don't want any deaths on their watch from someone going to or heading home from MetLife Stadium in a blizzard with bad driving conditions.

And if you think this isn't real, UFC has already announced they have talked to the NFL and have plans made to move their pay per view off of Saturday night to Sunday if the Super Bowl changes days to Saturday. The NFL is now in contact with other sports leagues about moving games. It's a very real possibility this game is going to get moved. You are dealing with the weather...so ya never know till the last minute. But it looks bad as of today.

^ That would be crazy.

I mean...I get it.  ...can't have people dying.  But still....nuts.

Whatever it takes to get this game firmly remembered for the crappy weather, I'm all for it.

^^^^

Within reason, I take it?

Forecast right now looks like there might be some snow, but nothing that will put the game into disarray. 

Maybe we should stop having any sporting events whatsoever in Florida because of the hurricane risk? 

The University of Miami's reputation as criminals and hooligans is highly overrated...

If they move the game many won't watch. It will still be big but most of their numbers come from people who don't typically watch football. They are only "watching" for the party. If numbers drop so does sponsorship revenue for next time.

The NFL is big but not big enough to say screw you to its fan base and not feel the effect.

Fuck em.  Make them play in a blizzard or better yet another fog bowl.  My level of hatred for Roger Goodell whether this was his idea or not at this point I just want him to have to eat a mountain of shit.

It's not about the players. It's about Public Safety. They don't want 80,000 fans risking their life getting to and from the game.

The weather has zero to do with the actual game, so who cares? Im worried about the game, not how long it takes Doug from Connecticut to get to, or home from the game.

Thats their choice, not the NFL's.

ha ha ha, talk about naive thinking

No, naive is talk about moving the game to a different day etc.  How would you enjoy spending a couple grand for a super bowl ticket to find out that you cant go because its been moved to a friggen Tuesday or Wednesday? There are games all year in rain, snow, heat that nobody whines and cries about, so whats the differnce here? The stadium only holds 'x' amount of people so what has changed because its the Super Bowl?

1) It's not getting moved to a Tuesday or Wednesday so lets not exaggerate. It's getting moved one day...two days max.

2) when you as a league force people to pay a couple grand for a ticket (like they are for the super bowl), then things change. You make sure they can get to and from the game. It's not like they dropped $60 on a ticket so if they can't go, oh well life moves on. This is big money fans are spending.  So you want to make sure they get to and from the game without taking their life in their hands! And don't think the NFL hasn't done their research. They have said with their research 90% of people who go to the game are in town that Thursday before the game. So, godforbid if they move the game....the vast majority of people won't be effected

Here is the NFL's timeline
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/super-bowl-confidential-goodell-decision-xlviii-article-1.1591203

The hell with it.  If they're only making like 2000 tickets available to the general public, then the hell with them.  I'm tired of this crap. >:D

Let's be honest her MikeO. Denver exaggerated by saying a Tuesday or wednesday Super Bowl but you are also exaggerating whith this position of taking their own life in their hands stuff. Granted travel is affected by weather but you are at a real extreme here.

I am glad to see all the chaos.....this was a dumbass idea to begin with. I hope they get 8 feet of snow during the game!!!!!

You haven't seen the weather in the northeast the past couple weeks I take it. It's been brutal.

The NFL is taking every extra precaution possible...it's the SUPER BOWL! Most watched sporting event in the world!! This isn't some Week 14 game between the Jags-Jets! When you charge people $5,000 for a ticket you cater to them and not have them risk their life to get to the event.

listen to the guy yourself. This is just ONE of his interveiws from the past week. You can google and find many more
Click here for the story. (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/?podcast_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.podtrac.com%2Fpts%2Fredirect.mp3%2Fnyc.podcast.play.it%2Fmedia%2Fd0%2Fd0%2Fd1%2Fd4%2FdI%2Fd3%2Fd0%2F14I30_3.MP3%3Fauthtok%3D5562310412340354258_GPkfxzf0yhkIEeohgmCmWZ653Ow&podcast_name=Mike+Francesa+with+Eric+Grubman&podcast_artist=Mike+Francesa&station_id=62&tag=pages&dcid=CBS.NY)

I hope that every part of the planning is torn to shreds and that there is maximum chaos inflicted on the NFL for kowtowing to New York New Jersey and giving them this Super Bowl in the first place.

The idea of an outdoor Super Bowl is exactly as stupid as it sounded the day someone first proposed it.

I agree. I don't want this to happen again so I hope the weather comes in strong and creates a mess for the league.

I predict that the weather will be uncomfortable for guests, but ultimately not dangerous.  Regardless, this will be the last time it happens.  I think that the damage has already been done.  Fear of having to move the event is enough.  Why risk this in the future?

The only thing better would be if they get fog or a blizzard so thick the TV cameras can't pick anything up.

I predict it won't be any more uncomfortable for the guests than a normal Seahawks or Broncos home playoff game.  

^ Maybe not.

But a lot of this is corporate stuff -- not actual fans.  Big money celebrities and corporate money and so on.  ...not your hardcore fan who wants to brave the elements.

PLEASE GOD THIS

Then let them stay home.  The game should be for the hardcore fans who are willing to brave the elements. 

If it was up to me I would institute the following policies:

1) Ban all indoor stadiums and artificial turf.  All football should be played outdoor on grass.  (yes, I know foxboro has artificial turf)

2) Winner of last year's superbowl hosts this years superbowl. (E.g. this year it would be in Baltimore)

Most cities aren't equipped to host the super bowl. (ie Buffalo, Green Bay, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Kansas City,...etc). Foolish idea

They won't play the game in those conditions. They would move it to another day

^ I'm fine with some of that, but I also live in the real world.

I think that like 80% of tickets should have the right of first refusal go to season ticket holders of the two teams playing.  But I also like money.

I think that you should put the Super Bowl into nice stadiums in cities that can meet the demand.  And nice weather is important.  Why send people to a blisteringly-cold shithole when you can be in paradise?  NY gets dark at 4 O'Clock and you can't drive anywhere.  You can literally go to the beach here right now.  You can (and do, during the Superbowl) have big, outdoor concerts that are attended.  You have a super bowl weekend where kids come, play sports and games, etc.  Media day is outside.

It just makes good business sense and is actually entertaining and enjoyable, which is the point of the whole thing to begin with.

I don't necessarily think it has to be Miami, but an outdoor stadium in the middle of a blizzard is just dumb.

We aren't talking about hosting the Olympics (which was held in Lake Placid which is much smaller than any of those cities) we are talking about hosting a football game.  Any of those cities can handle that many tourists. 

Biggest sporting event in the world. If you think cities like Green Bay and Buffalo has the hotels to house all of these people you don't know what you are talking about. They don't. Not up for debate, they flat out don't. In Jacksonville they had to bring in ships the week of because they ran out of hotels so people could live/sleep on the ships for the week they had the game there. There are many NFL towns that are just too small and don't have the necessary number of hotels to host a week long event like the Super Bowl.

Sorry hoodie, you are 100% wrong!

Greenbay arguable you have a point. 

However the second smallest NFL city is New Orleans (which hosted the superbowl recently) tied with Buffalo, every other NFL team is hosted in a larger metro area than NO. 

Jacksonville is only a hair larger than NO.  So the rest should not have a problem...

Greenbay would be doable but it would require a fleet of buses to shuttle people to Milwaukee.

(in millions)
:NYJ :NYG New York 19.0
:CHI Chicago 9.6
:DAL Dallas 6.3
:PHI Philadelphia 5.8
:HOU Houston 5.7
:MIA Miami 5.4
:ATL Atlanta 5.4
:WAS Washington D.C. 5.4
:NE Boston  4.5
:DET Detroit 4.4
:ARI Phoenix 4.3
:SF :OAK San Francisco/Oakland 4.3
:SEA Seattle 3.3
:MIN Minneapolis 3.2
:SD San Diego 3.0
:STL St. Louis 2.8
:TB Tampa Bay 2.7
:BAL Baltimore 2.7
:DEN Denver 2.5
:PIT Pittsburgh 2.4
:CIN Cincinnati 2.2
:CLE Cleveland 2.1
:KC Kansas City 2.0
:IND Indianapolis 1.7
:CAR Charlotte 1.7
:TEN Nashville 1.6
:JAC Jacksonville 1.3
:NO New Orleans 1.1
:BUF Buffalo 1.1
:GB Green Bay 0.3  (112 miles north of Milwaukee 1.5 M)

Not even fucking close. 

World Cup is the biggest sporting event in the World. Olympics is second. 

Superbowl might be third but a case could be made for Le Mans or Tour de France or Wimbleton etc. being 3rd.  Superbowl is in tier with multiple other sporting events all that fall well short of the top 2. 

In terms of media at the event and msot watched one day event I believe Super Bowl is first but whatever

None of these numbers factors in hotels in the area. As I said, I have been to downtown Buffalo. Nowhere near enough hotels to host a super bowl. Same with Jacksonville (this is proven already, it failed when they held the game), Cincinnati, and other cities in the same boat. It's not the size of the city its the hotels in the area! New Orelans has hotels on top of hotels, so while the city may be smaller it is equipped to host large events like Final Fours, Super Bowls, Sugar Bowls, National Title games.

Honolulu has a population of <400K, but I think they probably have more hotels than Buffalo.

Location matters.

It's a tourist city so I am sure they do have more hotels than Buffalo

Downtown Buffalo, not enough hotels.  Add in all the hotels that cater to the Niagara Fall crowd that are largely vacant in February...more than enough.

Buffalo could host it...and it would be a huge boom to all the bed and breakfasts that normally sit ideal from mid-Oct to early-May. 

Wouldn't come close to being able to hold it and it would be a disaster. Plus the stadium is an utter dump and couldn't come close to accommodating all the media.

I just want to see a good competitive football game

Well it is going to be a bit worse.  Less onsite parking than normal.  Heavy security means you need to plan on getting inside two hours before the game, or risk missing the start due to security checks.  So there are going to be people in the cold for 7 hours vs probably 4 hours normally.  I heard from a relative with NJ State Troopers that they will have 300 policemen just to verify the several thousand other policemen are real police officers.

as of today it doesn't look like the game will be moved. Might just be really cold but no crazy weather it looks like. Of course that could always change

^^^ So this entire people risking their lives was just a bunch of hype as I thought.

wasn't hype if you saw the 10 day forecast late last week and at that time what was predicted for this Sunday. The weather pattern with the bad stuff shifted

^^^ Anyone who follows a weather forecast (and even listened to the one they were giving) knows a ten day forecast is too far out to be accurate.

agree. But the league had to be prepared either way.  I don't know what your whining about honestly. League was prepared to move the game incase the weather forecast was right. What's the big deal?

No big deal about that. I simply have been saying your statements about lives being in jeapody was a bit over the top.

With a Nor'easter blizzard or bone chilling cold and icy roads, lives are in jeopardy

Good thing it wasn't held yesterday in Atlanta!!  :o

Spoken like someone who hasn't been driving in NY or NJ during a blizzard. You probably thought when "Sandy" hit a few years back it was just a day with some stiff winds, no big deal  ::)

Nope it is spoken by someone who waited to see an accurate weather forecast rather than jump the gun on some issue where there was no basis. Sandy hit New York when it came through. Stop the presses, we can't have a Super Bowl there. Guess what, Katrina hit New Orleans and I don't hear you crying about stopping any Super Bowls in New Orleans. The two are about as related. Natural Disasters are a real possibility in this world, there just isn't one happening this weekend no matter what your lucky 8-ball may say.

Who jumped the gun by saying the NFL "MIGHT" have to move the game a day or two, hell the league itself released their schedule of moving the game based on last weeks weather forecasts!!  Jesus christ you are thick. There was a basis because the league issued statements and had plans ready to go as early as a week ago to move the game based on the weather information they had at the time. Hell I even gave you a link of the NFL Exec saying what he was doing and what the plan was as of last Fri.

Stay in your bubble and believe what you want and be ignorant to reality.

The NFL MIGHT have to move Miami's home preseasons game next season because of the high risk of hurricanes in Florida in August. 

I am not jumping the gun at all, Florida gets as many hurricanes / tropical storms in August as NY gets blizzards in February. 

Oh stop. You are silly and I thought you were better than this Hoodie (apparently I was wrong about you) NY was hit with a huge storm last week, days away from the actual game and the league had all the prep work ready to go and hit the airways last week in NY/NJ preparing fans on what the course of action might be in the next week or so in regards to the Super Bowl being moved a day or two.  It was a real situation. You wanna act like a horses ass go for it but you come off like a fool as well.

I'm sure the NFL right now is preparing Dolphins fans about the preseason games being moved in August.  ::) Ya know because the 2 situations are equal and its a fair analogy/example. Give me a break

New York got some snow.  They plowed it and was back in business all in a relatively short period of time.  Compare that to Atlanta. 

Oh yes, New York got hit by Superstorm Sandy during football season.  Number of games that need to be moved to other stadiums or canceled or delayed because of that: 0.  Compare that to Katrina  -- should we not hold the Superbowl in NO.  Or how about SD -- maybe we should never hold a game in SD because they had to move a game (vs. the Dolphins) to AZ because of wild fires. 

Weather/national disaster happen everywhere. 

THANK YOU for making the NFL's point for them and contradicting yourself all at the same time!!  Yes, they got hit with a snow storm and were back in business in a relatively short period of time early last week. And the weather forecast late last week and last weekend had a storm hitting NY/NJ the day before or the day of the super bowl, and if so the league had plans in place and ready to roll to move the game. THAT'S ALL THAT IS BEING SAID!!! Jesus christ, not that big a deal. Cause that "relatively short period of time" would have been gameday possibly and shut down the area for a day possibly with the information they had at the time. The weather took a turn for the better and it didn't end up happening, not sure why your panties are in a bunch but it must be your time of the month.

But, Thank you, thank you, thank you for just ending this debate and agreeing with the NFL's stance.

The decision on that is not made until if and when the threat of a hurricane poses a risk to the fans.  In this case there was the threat of a blizzard but there is no longer