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So, you hate the team's management, right?

What do you want?  Win now?  Try to build mercenary teams, then tear down?  Sell off talent to get younger, longer-term guys who will stick around?

Or do you want to punish ownership, almost rooting for their bankruptcy and failure, until a better owner can be put in place?

as a former marlins fan .. i want the owner to sell or otherwise lose ownership in the team . .that would make me happy

I'm trying to imagine referring to myself as a "former Padres (or Suns, or 49ers) fan"...and I just can't see it. A fan is a fan, in good times and bad, and nothing (not even marrying a fan of another team) could ever change my allegiance.

I won't stop rooting for the Marlins.  I just won't support them financially until Loria is outta there. 

This

And this...

I want to see Loria burn in hell.  I still like the Marlins, I am still a fan.  But I refuse to go to another game or buy any merchandise to support the Marlins until Loria and Samson are gone.

(and yes I know about profit sharing...)

I'd like to see the Marlins win.  I'd like to see them keep their guys, starting with Stanton and Fernandez.  I'd like to see continuity.  This season's trade deadline was the first step in the right direction.

So you'd still be a fan of the Seattle Suns, then?

For most fans, a move would rather quickly change their allegiance.

I always thought the same thing.  The last few things have really shaken me to the core with the Red Sox.  I've been through it all.  I've been through Bucky F'N Dent, I've been through 1986, I've been through Fred Lynn (which was awful).  I've been through 2003 (which might have been harder than 1986).  I've been through Bobby G-D Valentine.  But yesterday?  Unless Lester is wearing the B on his hat again after this offseason, I just don't know.

I can UNDERSTAND finally losing patience...

Maine, the Boston Red Sox are the reigning World Series Champions and you're talking about how losing Jon Lester might be the last straw?  Seriously?

This takes "but what have you done for me lately?" to stratospheric new heights.

As long as the move wasn't to Los Angeles or New York (I have a genetic predisposition against those two particular levels of Hell), I would continue to support my team in their new location.

I stopped being a Rams fan when they left L.A. (which was when/why I became a Dolphins fan) and I hate the Oklahoma City Thunder like deadly poison.

My dad was an LA Rams fan back in the day, mainly because he was good friends with a guy named John Cappelletti, who played RB for the Rams for a few years.

No, it's not.

I wouldn't expect you to get it.  It's fine you don't.  I was fine World Series winless until 2004 without feeling this way.  It's so much more than winning and losing.

You almost have me hoping that Lester doesn't go back to Boston (I'm feeling a Dave Loggins vibe here) this offseason, just to see if you'll jump from that ledge or climb back in the window. It just seems a little extreme for a standard "baseball is a business" situation.

You're right Maine, I can't understand it.  Are you saying you would be happier if they had kept Lester and BOS didn't make the playoffs for the next 10 years?  Because normally, wins and losses are the entire point.

The current front office brought you a ring less than one year ago, and you have so little faith in what they are doing that unless they bring back one specific player, you're saying you might be done with the team?  Does this still apply if BOS wins the World Series again next year?  Or will that championship be too bitter to accept?

It's total insanity, man.  The idea that you could be the current reigning champs (and not sell off the team like the Marlins) and be so disgusted with the ownership that you're ready to write off the team is unfathomable.  It's that kind of entitlement-on-steroids that makes fans of other teams wish for another 80-year Red Sox streak.

Especially fans of teams like the Padres, who have never experienced a championship...or a no-hitter, or a hit-for-the-cycle, or pretty much anything that would allow us to talk trash to fans of any other team.

Take every big-market, big budget team, put 'em in a line and fuck 'em all...sideways...lubeless

GO PADRES!!

Spider - it's this particular player, what he means to the franchise, what the franchise's "motto" is supposed to be based around, and the potential for this to be a future pattern.

It's more than wins and loses, and it's more than Jon Lester.  And unless you have grown up living and breathing a team like we do here in New England, you'll either get...or you won't.

There have been moves by this particular ownership group which has made me raise my eyebrows.  Winning a World Series is great.  I appreciate it.  Last year was fun.  My ass was in the stands, or watching on TV, or listening to the radio, well before 2004.  It's easy to forget now.  The Sox have won three in ten years.  Before 2004 there constant re-loading for "another one."  Just a constant dream, and then the subsequent nightmare.  You seem to forget this portion of your stance.

There was a lot before 2004.  2007.  2013.

Say, like, 2002.  The year Jon Lester was drafted.  Watching the kid move from the Gulf Coast league and being in the car, literally, to pick up him in '05 to bring him to Hadlock field when he arrived in Portland in '05 to introduce him him to his host family.  Watching him start 2007 in single A and finish 2007 as a World Series Champion (ESPN isn't saying a ton about that, huh?), with another stop in right here in Portland.  Knowing how much this organization means to him, and what I thought he meant to the organization.  And, again, what I thought the organizational pattern still held true to.  It's believing one thing to be true about the organization, only to find out another is the reality. 

I'm not Al Davis.  "Just win, baby" isn't my M.O.

I have zero issues getting behind a scrappy team, losing.  No one heard a word from me complaining this year.  It's not about wins and loses for me.  If it were, I would have bailed on the Miami Dolphins decades, literally, ago. 

It's about something more, about something deeper.  So, again, you don't get it.  I don't care.  Continue to not get it.

You just swept my hitless Braves. What more do you want?

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Add another to this bandwagon.

You can almost bank on the fact that ownership will sell off their talent once their salary demands go up, so that I don't have to worry about. However the Marlins win is fine by me. But if they continuously suck for years on end I won't shed a tear, only then can I hope that one day ownership will take off.

F Loria and Samson

A rare thing for the Friars...

On a positive note, and proof-positive that the Sports Gods reward fan loyalty... There is a baseball fantasy pool game called "13-Run" that I got into with 12 other local friends. We each put $20 in the pot, and we picked a major league team, with no 2 players having the same team. The objective of the game is to have your team score each number between 0-13. The lower numbers are easy...most scores are low, but when you get into the double digit runs, it gets tougher. Smart money goes with a team with a potent offense, as they are the most likely to put up 11, 12, 13 runs...

So, of course, I picked my juggernaut Padres and their historically weak offense.

SD got all the low numbers early, but most of the other entries were several points ahead of me. Suddenly, my Padres found their hittin' shoes and knocked off both 13 & 12 within a week, giving my Padres the unfathomable pool win.

The $260 I won almost pays for my fantasy football season. ;D

Go Padres!!

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That actually sounds like a lot of fun. I have never heard of it before. I may have to strike something like this up with some friends for next season. Congrats on the win!!!!

I agree I went to a game last season and my  family was so bored we left at the 7th. Until Loria is gone the Marlins is not gonna get another dime from me

^^ been hearing this a lot from a lot of fans.  Sadly, not enough, as the Marlins are still drawing crowds this season.

Although, I thought this picture from opening day was interesting:
(http://wac.9ebf.edgecastcdn.net/809EBF/ec-origin.chicago.barstoolsports.com/files/2013/03/marlinspark1-480x320.jpg)