Title: Shame of the Game - vs. Chiefs Post by: dolphins4life on September 21, 2014, 07:33:23 pm ok, I'll try this again
The owner for not hiring me as the offensive coordinator Title: Re: Shame of the Game - vs. Chiefs Post by: EKnight on September 21, 2014, 07:48:56 pm How far into the season does it have to be to remind everyone that Tannehill is not a rock-star, NFL franchise QB? Yeah, his receivers have dropped some passes, but God he makes some bad throws, and for a guy who was a receiver, never fails to amaze me with his immobility in the hits and sacks he takes.
Under 50% completion, couldn't finish drives. RT gets it from me. -EK Title: Re: Shame of the Game - vs. Chiefs Post by: DZA on September 21, 2014, 07:50:43 pm Shame on me for wasting my time watching the game, I should have gone to the beach ::)
Oh well guess its the same ol Dolphins another season of watching the drama know as the Miami Dolphins. We all could say hmmm its only week 3, plenty of football yada yada. I rambled enough ::) Title: Re: Shame of the Game - vs. Chiefs Post by: Tenshot13 on September 21, 2014, 08:00:55 pm How far into the season does it have to be to remind everyone that Tannehill is not a rock-star, NFL franchise QB? Yeah, his receivers have dropped some passes, but God he makes some bad throws, and for a guy who was a receiver, never fails to amaze me with his immobility in the hits and sacks he takes. His receivers don't drop some passes, they lead the league. Under 50% completion, couldn't finish drives. RT gets it from me. -EK Title: Re: Shame of the Game - vs. Chiefs Post by: EKnight on September 21, 2014, 08:02:56 pm That doesn't surprise me. Even if they didn't- he doesn't do enough to win games. Never has, never will. -EK
Title: Re: Shame of the Game - vs. Chiefs Post by: Spider-Dan on September 21, 2014, 08:11:22 pm An assessment which you made after seeing Tannehill play exactly one half of one game. Way to stick with your original call, though; it's a refreshing new look for you.
My SOTG goes to Lazor. The offense was so thoroughly inept that I don't know who else to give it to. Title: Re: Shame of the Game - vs. Chiefs Post by: Cathal on September 21, 2014, 09:58:07 pm If your receivers drop just about everything you throw, regardless of how perfect it is, you can't sustain drives, especially when the offensive line isn't always blocking for the run game. He's certainly no rock star, but he would look like one of the better QBs in the league if his people didn't continually let him down.
Title: Re: Shame of the Game - vs. Chiefs Post by: mecadonzilla on September 21, 2014, 11:04:45 pm Even with receivers dropping passes, he still misses an an awful lot of throws. Sure, people are dropping catchable balls, and sure, the line isn't pass blocking consistently, but at some point he needs to nut up and get the job done. I have a few bargain basement chairs on my patio that withstand folding pressure better than Tanny does.
Title: Re: Shame of the Game - vs. Chiefs Post by: CF DolFan on September 22, 2014, 06:09:06 am Many of the bad throw complaints are not legit. Watch other games and you'll see receivers constantly catching less than perfect throws.
Staring down receivers seems to be another catch phrase people like. Just because it sounds cool doesn't make it true. He's far from horrible but needs some help. Title: Re: Shame of the Game - vs. Chiefs Post by: JGreenMachine on September 22, 2014, 08:17:32 am Bill Lazor. He abandoned the run again in the fourth quarter when it was working so well. This team was down by only six points and had a second and 1 near midfield. They threw two passes and then punted. From then on out it was all Tannehill running for his life. This offense is clearly not working and Lazor doesn't even closely resemble the offensive genius people make him out to be.
Title: Re: Shame of the Game - vs. Chiefs Post by: DZA on September 22, 2014, 08:36:31 am ^^^^^
On Lazor's Defense ;D you cant turn a pile of shit into Gold ::) Title: Re: Shame of the Game - vs. Chiefs Post by: JGreenMachine on September 22, 2014, 08:45:06 am ^^^^^ On Lazor's Defense ;D you cant turn a pile of shit into Gold ::) Tannehill threw for over 4000 yards last year. At the pace he's on this year, he'll have less than 2500. And that's with more time to throw. He's taken three steps backwards. If he doesn't show improvement from here on out, it's time to find another QB. Title: Re: Shame of the Game - vs. Chiefs Post by: Brian Fein on September 22, 2014, 09:34:54 am I agree with the Lazor call, because the offense has been inept for 2 consecutive weeks.
But, yesterday, for the first time, I saw Tannehill's weakness. Its true - dropped balls happen, and that blows. Guys like Hartline and Landry have great hands, catch everything near them in practice, but drop balls on the field. I don't get it. But, now I see what people say when they complain about Tannehill holding the ball too long. I watch Russell Wilson do that, and he's gone. Cam Newton, same thing. Pocket collapsing, no throw, bolt. Tannehill can be in that mold, but he just doesn't seem to play that way. I wonder if his ability to sense pressure, or just the sheer amount of sacks he has endured has damaged him. He is just playing with zero confidence. I want to see a QB stand there and deliver the ball. I don't want to see 4-5 balls batted down at the line. This has been a problem for him since his first game, and still shows up weekly. Sorry, you know I have liked him in the past, but Tannehill gets the SOTG this week. Title: Re: Shame of the Game - vs. Chiefs Post by: CF DolFan on September 22, 2014, 10:31:33 am Many of the batted balls are the O-lines fault and I just don't get it. They showed one play on TV up close and no one on the right side was engaged with their defensive lineman. I don't know why that is. It has to be taught somewhere.
Title: Re: Shame of the Game - vs. Chiefs Post by: Rich on September 22, 2014, 10:33:57 am How far into the season does it have to be to remind everyone that Tannehill is not a rock-star, NFL franchise QB? Yeah, his receivers have dropped some passes, but God he makes some bad throws, and for a guy who was a receiver, never fails to amaze me with his immobility in the hits and sacks he takes. Under 50% completion, couldn't finish drives. RT gets it from me. -EK Dropped passes, poor pass protection, abandoning the run way too early while averaging 7 ypc, 13 missed tackles, poor defensive schemes. LET'S BLAME THE QB! YEAH! Title: Re: Shame of the Game - vs. Chiefs Post by: CF DolFan on September 22, 2014, 10:37:30 am I don't know what it is. I don't even think it's coaching. It seems like we've been bad so long the pressure to be good causes us to shut down. You can see it at times and the ability is there. My best advice is to take up something to help them relax. They need to chill out, take some chances and just play the game for fun.
Title: Re: Shame of the Game - vs. Chiefs Post by: Rich on September 22, 2014, 10:40:28 am I don't know what it is. I don't even think it's coaching. It seems like we've been bad so long the pressure to be good causes us to shut down. You can see it at times and the ability is there. My best advice is to take up something to help them relax. They need to chill out, take some chances and just play the game for fun. Maybe this is what "lame duck" coaches get out of their teams... Title: Re: Shame of the Game - vs. Chiefs Post by: Phishfan on September 22, 2014, 11:24:37 am Many of the bad throw complaints are not legit. Watch other games and you'll see receivers constantly catching less than perfect throws. Staring down receivers seems to be another catch phrase people like. Just because it sounds cool doesn't make it true. He's far from horrible but needs some help. Bravo CF. The funny thing is I hear it told completely different depending on who says it. Dave has said how good Tannehill looked at multiple receivers the other week and the TV commentator mentioned him looking off a receiver yesterday. I think it is just a good talking point for people. My shame goes to Lazor. Not enough run plays going on. Title: Re: Shame of the Game - vs. Chiefs Post by: EKnight on September 22, 2014, 11:56:29 am Many of the batted balls are the O-lines fault and I just don't get it. They showed one play on TV up close and no one on the right side was engaged with their defensive lineman. I don't know why that is. It has to be taught somewhere. Tannehill had a problem with batted balls when he was at A&M. It was one of the knocks on him coming out of college that I pointed out from the get go. When the QB has the same issue with every O-line he has played with, it's on him. *Tannehill had multiple passes tipped/batted for INTs his senior year; over half his INTs came from tipped or batted balls. *no other Dolphin had tipped/batted ball issues in the preseason when Tannehill had four in ONE HALF against Carolina -EK Title: Re: Shame of the Game - vs. Chiefs Post by: dolphins4life on September 22, 2014, 03:07:45 pm How come none of you are talking about passing the ball on second and one and third and one in Chief territory with the score 21-15 and the running game working effectively?
Title: Re: Shame of the Game - vs. Chiefs Post by: Dave Gray on September 22, 2014, 03:14:10 pm Throwing deep on 2nd and 1 is smart football; that's why nobody is talking about it.
Title: Re: Shame of the Game - vs. Chiefs Post by: dolphins4life on September 22, 2014, 03:16:57 pm Really?
Go to your shaky passing game when your running game is shredding the other team? That's smart football? Title: Re: Shame of the Game - vs. Chiefs Post by: Brian Fein on September 22, 2014, 04:24:03 pm On second down, yes. Good call.
On third down, no. It was mentioned numerous times in this and other threads. Read around. Title: Re: Shame of the Game - vs. Chiefs Post by: MikeO on September 22, 2014, 05:24:55 pm Colledge and Dallas Thomas. Both suck and can't pass block to save their lives
Title: Re: Shame of the Game - vs. Chiefs Post by: MikeO on September 22, 2014, 05:26:25 pm An assessment which you made after seeing Tannehill play exactly one half of one game. Way to stick with your original call, though; it's a refreshing new look for you. HA HA!! That was a good second sentence Spider. That brought me a nice belly laugh Title: Re: Shame of the Game - vs. Chiefs Post by: EKnight on September 22, 2014, 05:42:44 pm Yes interesting...
No personal attacks, please. -EK Title: Re: Shame of the Game - vs. Chiefs Post by: Spider-Dan on September 22, 2014, 06:58:42 pm Holding people accountable for football-related claims they have made on this site is not a "personal attack." Nice try, though.
Title: Re: Shame of the Game - vs. Chiefs Post by: EKnight on September 22, 2014, 07:06:30 pm Way to stick with your original call, though; it's a refreshing new look for you. This is though- it's a blanket statement, going beyond commentary on football, that intimates I'm hypocritical. Either attacks are allowed or they're not, Mr. Moderator. -EK Title: Re: Shame of the Game - vs. Chiefs Post by: Spider-Dan on September 22, 2014, 07:20:06 pm Let me clarify, since you're having a hard time with the nuance:
Your consistency on maintaining that Tannehill is a bust is contrasted with your total inconsistency on whether you are a lifelong Dolphins fan (or even a Dolphins fan at all); an inconsistency which, to this day, you continue to let twist in the wind. And I can call out your inconsistent statements (which are not the same thing as hypocritical statements) without it being a personal attack. Make a dumb post and I will call your dumb post dumb. Any other clarification needed? Title: Re: Shame of the Game - vs. Chiefs Post by: EKnight on September 22, 2014, 07:32:00 pm Let me clarify for you, since you're also having a hard time with my original nuance- as a moderator of this board and someone who routinely removes other peoples posts because they "don't add anything to the topic," I have consistently voiced that you should have a higher standard and not purposefully make statements such as your original one that does exactly what you delete other people's posts for doing.
I've never seen a moderator of any other message forum engage in the petty and constant bickering and post dissection that you do, and likewise, no other moderator here does it. What possible benefit does it bring to the board to do this? My post was less about whether there was a cut and dry, black and white personal attack, and more about the general tone of the statement and the needlessness of it. Clearer? -EK Title: Re: Shame of the Game - vs. Chiefs Post by: Spider-Dan on September 22, 2014, 08:10:35 pm I understand that you think I should be above repeatedly referencing your previous positions.
I will share your opinions on forum moderation with the other moderators, as appropriate. Any further discussion on the topic of forum moderation will be moved from this thread. Thanks. |