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Somebody proposed a bonus point after a successful two point conversion.

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http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12507975/significant-replay-rules-changes-proposed-owners-meetings-next-week (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12507975/significant-replay-rules-changes-proposed-owners-meetings-next-week)

Sure would make the game a lot more wild.

Some of those are interesting ideas, other are crazy.  Here's the full list:

RULE PROPOSALS
1. Allow a coach to challenge any officials' decision except scoring plays and turnovers.
2. Subject all fouls to review
3. Subject personal foul penalties to Instant Replay review pursuant to a coach's challenge
4. Subject personal foul penalties to instant replay review.
5. Subject to instant replay review any penalty that results in an automatic first down.
6. A foul against a defenseless receiver may be enforced when a reversal results in an incomplete pass.
7. Reviewable plays will include fouls against defenseless players, and an unsuccessful challenge will not cost a team a timeout.
8. Eliminate the requirement that a team be successful on each of its first two Instant Reply challenges in order to be awarded a third challenge.
9. Expand plays for which reviews will be initiated by the Replay Official to include those that would result in a score or change of possession if the on-field ruling is reversed.
10. Add review of game clock on the final play of a half or overtime to Instant Replay system.
11. Add review of play clock to the Instant Replay system.
12. Put fixed cameras on all boundary lines.
13. Stadium-produced video may be used for an Instant Replay review.
14. Move the line of scrimmage for Try Kicks to the defensive team's 15-yard line.
15. Add a bonus field goal for one additional point after a successful two-point attempt.
16. Prohibit Team B players from pushing teammates on the line of scrimmage into the offensive formation when Team A presents a punt formation.
17. Both teams will have a possession in overtime.
18. Extend the prohibition for an illegal "peel back" block to all offensive players.
19. Give the intended receiver of a pass defenseless player protection in the immediate continuing action following an interception.
20. Allow for the enforcement of an Unsportsmanlike Conduct foul at the end of a half to be applied to the ensuing kickoff.
21. Make it illegal for a back to chop a defensive player engaged above the waist by another offensive player outside the area originally occupied by the tight end.
22. Permit clubs to assign additional jersey numbers to linebackers. Adds 40-49 as eligible numbers for linebackers, in addition to 50-59 and 90-99.
23. Makes it illegal for an offensive player with an eligible number to report as ineligible and line up outside the core of the formation.
BYLAW PROPOSALS
1. Eliminate the cutdown to 75 players on the Active List.
2. Prohibit timing and on-field testing at a club's facility of any players who attended the League-wide Combine.
3. Permit clubs to designate after 4 p.m. ET, on the day after the final roster reduction, the one player eligible to return to their Active List from Reserve/Injured.
4. Change the date for the beginning of the window during which players on Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform may begin practice.
RESOLUTION
1. Allow teams with retractable roofs to open them during halftime shows.

That would be okay if the bonus point kick was from at least 45 yds, otherwise it simply turns a 2 pt conversion into a 3 pt conversion.

What's rule 23 called, Patriot Cheaters rule #795??

I hate the restrictions on instant replay, some calls and plays decide games and the wrong team wins. I don't even care if it's just a bad pass interference call, let the coaches challenge it. Limit it to 5 challenges at first so that assholes like Belichick don't make a mockery of the system and challenge every play out of spite, but open it up.

EDIT: And the Colts proposed the 9 point TD rule. You know, the team owned by a pill junkie.

The bonus point is the dumbest thing ever.

It sounds really cool on paper, but when you really think about, it would just be too much.

I don't think this will ever happen, because I think that the league fears opening up judgment calls to further criticism (it's the one thing that they've held tight to), but I think that you should pretty much be able to challenge anything -- penalties included. 

But of the things that are realistic changes, I think they need to make both pass interference and roughing penalties a 5/15 kind of thing, where the ref has to determine intent.  It opens a can of worms, but I think it's a can that needs to be opened.

So essentially just making it a three-point conversion.

^^^ Not really if you want to get picky. They would still get the 2 points if that is successful but the kick misses (which is quite possible because I saw yesterday it would be a 50 yard kick). It isn't 3 or nothing.

When was the last time the NFL instituted a rule change that increased referee judgement calls? The league has been very outspoken in its effort to reduce exactly that, so I don't see that as a realistic change.

^ Yes, they have, but I think it's only made things worse and it's something to hide behind.  Huge swings are happening because of these weird judgement calls with QBs, especially.

For shits and giggles, let's make touchdowns cost 5.5 points.  ::)

I like the idea.

Because kickers have gotten so good u can basically skip the two plays after a td , just give the scoring team a point and place the ball on the 20.

If this encourage s more teams to go for it,  the game will be more exciting.

It's reinventing the wheel. No need to mess around with the extra points.

that was what was said when the 2pt was added, heck that was the same argument against introducing theforward pass

Forward passes and two point conversions are actually exciting. Another 1 point kick is not.

hell, why not just let them keep kicking from 5 yards further for extra points until they miss!  Get the 2-point conversion, then an extra point from the 30, 35, 40, 45, and so on until they miss.

The 2pt rule has been in the college game since 1958, the NFL was just late to the party of doing it. And this "bonus point" doesn't compare to the forward pass on any level.

It's just a silly gimmick to cheapen the sport

The Bonus point would good for an arena football like league, not for a professional league like the NFL.

When it comes the NFL, I think if something sounds to radical, it's probably not a good idea, though that doesn't mean we should not make changes.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12557583/extra-point-changes-nfl-likely-2015 (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12557583/extra-point-changes-nfl-likely-2015)

More updates.  I don't like the idea.  Let it stay as it is now. 

Edit:  Any changes that make kicking more difficult, for example, by moving back the extra point, will hurt the Dolphins and help the Patriots

Since the 50s, XPs have been made more than 95% of the time, so what is it we're aiming for? Extra points have been virtually automatic for longer than most of us have been alive.

I'm not completely convinced that there's a problem and even if one accepts the argument that there is, that there is a simple solution.

Suppose we accept: PATs are "boring" and SOMETHING must be done to make them more "exciting".

Does moving the scrimmage line (more complicated than it seems) to increase kick distance, and thereby accuracy, really add much in the way of excitement? How low would the accuracy need to go before it's exciting enough?

Kicking accuracy has been steadily improving for over a hundred years and there's absolutely no indication that it's slowing down. Kicks at a given distance obviously cannot keep improving, but add some distance and the improvement is very constant (linear).

Kicks of 50-60 yards, for example, have increased in accuracy with right around one percentage point since the hash marks were moved in the mid-70s. That's 40 years of improvement, from below 25% to over 65%, with no tailing off yet.

Shorter kicks have seen accuracy increases start to diminish, but you really need to get closer than 35 yards to see that 1% a year improvement drop off significantly (and those kicks are made with better than 90% accuracy today).

So how far back do you move the scrimmage line? What percentage are you aiming for? 35 yard kicks, which is the distance I've heard mentioned most often as a new XP candidate, are already at 90% accuracy and on target for reaching 95% within a decade, probably even faster if kickers start kicking from that distance a lot more (which they would if the scrimmage line were moved). Sure, you'd still get the odd miss every now and then, but would it really add much excitement?
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Although it will never happen, I'd rather increase the points of going for it from 2 to 3.

And if we're saying that kicks with high accuracy are boring, wouldn't the logical conclusion of that argument be that action should be taken to make ALL kicks more interesting? I.e. by moving the goal posts closer together.

Good article on kicker accuracy: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/kickers-are-forever/

The bigger rule change that went through is the Patriots and that "eligible" receiver BS they did vs the Ravens in the playoffs. The Pats found a technicality and broke the "spirit" of the rule. Now the NFL has changed it and the rule is what it is supposed to be. No more BS stunts by the Pats in that regard.

It is funny (and sad) that they will get away with deflategate but the Falcons and Browns are getting "severe" punishments for their little scandals.

I think the NFL used this rule as a way to look tough on the Pats. I can't stand them as a team but there was no "technicality" getting exploited. They followed the rules of the game completely. Last I checked, using creative formations has always been a part of the game. The NFL has now limited those formations a bit.

It so was a technicality getting exploited, which is why they changed the rule. Otherwise they would have left it the same and done nothing

Just make a TD 7 points with the option to go for 2 and if they miss it, it's just 6 points. I don't want close games to be decided heavily based on what happens after a TD. It cheapens the importance of the TD.

since "off the wall ideas" are being thrown out there. How about get rid of "specialized kickers."

The only people who can kick FG's, extra points, and who can punt are players who must play a certain amount of snaps (make it a high number) at another position. That would make the game more interesting. That way you can't sneak a kicker on a roster as the 6th string WR  and never play him at WR and only have him kick or something. Teams would have to develop position players to kick

Maybe bring somebody from the stands to kick the PAT