The Dolphins Make Me Cry.com - Forums

Dion Jordan failed a 3rd Drug Test. SUSPENDED for the entire season

Just great!

I just added a note to the other Jordan thread.

ESPN reporting the Fins had a trade almost done with Philly for him too that would have taken place this week.  Unreal

what a moron

Do you still have to pay the guy?  Can you just cut him?

I believe they can cut him at a reduced risk. Cutting him or trading him would have eaten up over $1 million of our cap.

At this point, whether the risk is reduced or not, we should cut him. He counts over $6 million against the 2016 cap. I think that money would be better spent on Ryan Tannehill or Olivier Vernon.

What an asshole.  Seriously?  Get off my team.  Bye.  Moron.

Just to be clear, he did not fail a drug test. One of the drug test samples came up as dilluted. It could mean he drank a lot of water before taking the test or it could mean he tampered with the sample.

That being said, a dilluted test counts as a strike in the NFL drug policy. But the NFL drug policy is more stringent than military drug testing.

It was a diluted test and he is not appealing the suspension. His piss was dirty.

He failed the test. Why or how he failed it doesn't matter. He failed the test and is suspended for a year

Found this moments ago. Unsure how accurate it is but seems right.

Dion Jordan's $3,068,925 signing bonus proration still counts on Miami's 2015 salary cap.

Update: But then found this....So Dolphins might just cut Dion Jordan after June 1st and take the loss: they'd be responsible for $3 million on cap but free up $2.3 mil 

What a waste of talent.  The guy got his millions and then partied it away.   Another JaMarcus Russell type story.  Cut this piece of garbage.   

I have a hard time comparing him to JaMarcus, because Dion Jordan actually wasn't a complete braindead moron. Dion made bad lifestyle choices, while JaMarcus simply didn't have enough IQ points to fill a shot glass.

That said...he still needs to be cut loose, and a little bit of regret that Miami couldn't move him before he imploded.

I'd rather they cut him before June 1st and clear up $6+ million in 2016.

Dion Jordan will go down as one of the worst picks this organization ever made.   ...couldn't stop doing drugs, and when he was, he couldn't get in the game.

We blamed the coaches for a while for not using him, but it's pretty clear the guy wasn't getting it done.

Dion is a loser. But the coaches did use him wrong the entire time he was here. Not making excuses for him, as he is a druggie loser, but Coyle should have just put him at OLB which he is was a better fit for

ESPN is reporting that the Dolphins have known about this for a while and it will not alter their current draft plans

One of the worst draft picks by Miami ever!!  I couldn't understand why they picked him when they did, as the position wasn't the highest need at the time.  Followed by the fact he was injured when they drafted him, and his school schedule was going to be a problem.  Now the continued failed drug tests.  What a waste. :(

^^ Bingo.

It was a head-scratcher at the time, but you couldn't argue with the value for the trade-up.  However, you hoped you got a premiere athletic talent and they could squeeze him in.

In the end, he has thrown his life away, and has no one to blame but himself.

Great work by Jeff Ireland.  He sure did have a stiffy for DEs.  Drafted like 42 in his time here?

But, if they did, how could they trade him to Philly? That seems illegal within NFL rules.

Valid point. Makes me think ESPN is reporting BS on this. I have a feeling the Fins were blindsided by this today

For our sake, I hope we were. If there is proof, whether it be emails or texts that we knew and traded him anyway, we can lose draft picks.

Well at least he'll be a nice addition to the Ring of Dishonor.  In fact, he and Jeff Ireland should be enrolled jointly.

Maybe they knew about the failed drug test but didn't know if he had decided to appeal or not.  I don't see why a diluted test because he drank too much water would be a cause for suspension.  Why not just have him retest and make that test count?

Or maybe they knew he had a continuing drug problem but were trying to trading him before he failed another test.  That would be somewhat shady but not illegal. 

Or maybe they were trying to trade him for a 7th round pick having disclosed to the Eagles that he had failed a test.

Because you have to drink more than any normal person would. Excessive drinking of water is no different than using a masking agent and many times they are used together.

Not really. A half a gallon 2 hours before followed up by 16 ounces after urinating 3-4 times can dillute a urine test significantly.

The Fins have had worst picks than D.J.  ;D ;D ;D

So in your world 80 fluid ounces of water in a two hour period is normal drinking?

Only if exercising in 90+ degree weather.   But then again your urine would not be diluted in that situation.   

That was going to be my next point if needed.

Reports are Dion Jordan isn't responding to any of his teammates texts or phone calls. He has gone into hiding. Derrick Shelby went public that he is worried about Jordan right now and that he can't get in contact with him.

Why Miami hasn't just flat out cut him yet is beyond me.

Salary cap ramifications.  They cut him now, it cripples their cap next year.  They cut him after June 1 next year, they're only liable for a one year portion of his signing bonus against the cap.

This is incorrect.

If they cut him now, it eats up another $1.3 million in cap space and has no impact on the 2016 cap. Only if they cut him after June 1st or designate him a June 1st cut does he have an impact in 2016, and it is not crippling, and it would open up additional cap room this year.

Update.  I've seen reports that the Dolphins front office may not be so quick to cut him loose.  The reason being, both Cam Wake and Olivier Vernon will be UFA's next year.  By giving Jordan one last shot to get it right, he could be a fallback option to take one of their spots should the Dolphins fail to make a deal with them both.

They aren't cutting Jordan for cap purposes, but he won't be back next year on the field. He can't be trusted at all.  He had one last shot already....he F'd it up

Wake's cap number is very high next year and he is getting old. Would be 34 by 2016 season, Wake is most likely gonna be cut after this season. His agent already told Miami he won't take a pay cut and give them a hometown discount.

So, with Wake gone they can then probably re-sign Vernon most likely unless someone breaks the bank for him which is possible if he has a big year this year.