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An excellent pick for Miami...and a player on the short list of guys I was hoping that SF would get in round one.

And SF trades down a few picks with San Diego. We give up #15, and get #17, plus a 4th rounder this year and a 5th rounder next year.

And SF trades down a few picks with San Diego. We give up #15, and get #17, plus a 4th rounder this year and a 5th rounder next year.

Seems like a dumb move by the Chargers to give up a 4th & 5th, just to move ahead of the Texans to draft a RB.

...and just like that, my night is ruined. The one player I prayed that SF would NOT take was Arik Armstead. A DE who has zero pass rush skills and didn't show any ability to rack up tackles in the run game at Oregon. Sure, he's tall as shit, but this isn't a pick up hoops game at the local rec center, this is the NFL, where you need to produce.

Fuck me sideways...

And, just in case the taste of vomit in my mouth wasn't spicy enough, the 49ers signed former Dolphins LB Phillip Wheeler to a 1-year deal.

...and the hits just keep on comin'!

 >:(

Dion Jordan 2.0 (minus the drug problem)

At least Dion Jordan showed some sign of being able to rush the QB while he was in college. The only skills that Armstead showed was being able to get shit down off of the top shelf of the cupboard.

At least SF got new alternate uniforms today. That's something to look forward to

Parker has had 3 drops in 2 years.

Miami also has their WR's locked up for years to come.

Parker locked up for 5 more years
Landry locked up for 4 more years
Stills locked up for 3 more years

WR issue solved for a while!

I see us drafting Parker.

Fins are gonna have to move up to get one of the Top 3 WR's in Rd 1. Too many teams in need of WR's are ahead of us. Raiders, Jets, Cleveland, New Orleans (after Stills trade this is a need)..among others who might grab one if they guy they want isn't there (ie Rams.)

Cooper, White, and Parker will go quick in Rd 1. Real quick. Fins need to move up to the Top 10 to get one of these guys. And I'm all for it honestly, trade up and go big! If they stay at #14 they might end up with the next WR after Parker who they have rated the highest.

I was hoping for Gurley or Parker, so I'm happy.

The Dolphins signed their entire rookie class today to contracts. Impressive to sign the entire rookie class before the rookie mini-camp! Never seen it before.

Hickey and Tannenbaum put some serious work in!

I'm not impressed by this. With the rookie scale, it shouldn't be difficult to sign rookies.

So why hasn't every other team done this? If its so easy 32 teams should have their entire rookie class signed as of yesterday

That still doesn't make this impressive. The rookie scale was designed to slot players into contracts. There really isn't anything to negotiate.

That's not quite true. Base salary is pretty much fixed with the new CBA, but there are bonuses (signing, workout, roster, performance) and guarantees to work out.

Oh, and just to add: How much do you think a late-round draft pick makes if he DOESN'T make the team (final cuts, 53-man roster)?

Now, instead of each team having an allotment, each pick has a predetermined amount. In other words, a player and his agent know the exact dollar figures the moment he is drafted. They also know the length; every contract is for four years, with first-round picks subject to a team option for a fifth year, also at predetermined rates. As for salaries, the vast majority of drafted players have four years of non-guaranteed minimum salaries, accompanied by a signing bonus that’s not negotiated by the agent, but predetermined by the CBA.

With no opportunity for negotiating, many players are questioning why they need to have an agent to handle rookie contracts. Indeed, one first-rounder in 2013, the Ravens’ Matt Elam, opted not to use (ahem, pay) an agent because there would be no difference in the numbers.

Preset contract numbers have made the pace of rookie signings in mid-May mimic the pace of rookie signings in mid-July in the NFL’s old way of doing business. The Bears, led by longtime contract negotiator Cliff Stein, signed their entire 2014 class of rookies in four days. The Raiders have already secured the fifth pick in the draft, Khalil Mack—a remarkably swift resolution for such a high pick. (I once negotiated the fifth pick of the draft, A.J. Hawk, in a three-month back-and-forth that resulted in a 63-page contract.) Indeed, where teams used to point to the start of training camp as a target date for having their picks signed, some teams are now targeting that date at the start of minicamp.

At 5 p.m. EDT on Wednesday, a mere 11 days since the 2014 draft concluded, more than half of the 256 selections were signed. The numbers, by rounds:

Round Picks Signed
1 7
2 12
3 11
4 28
5 27
6 32
7 34
  Total: 151

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Rookie holdouts are now relics of a bygone era. While some negotiations will not resolve until the eve of training camp, the holdups will be about structure, not compensation. As a top union official told me, a “highly-trained monkey could negotiate these numbers.”

But thank you for that minor correction. Well noted.

Yeah you can guarantee salary, like the Cowboys did with Collins, on any rookie. But the fact is most teams don't really care too much because at the end of the day the cap hits are going to equal out the same.

No, the cap hits are not the same. Guaranteed salary will count against the cap even if you cut the player. That's not the case with normal salary.

I get that, but how many teams are cutting their first round picks after one season?

Let's be practical, not hypothetical.

Which is why I said that the later picks are probably more complicated after the new deal than the early picks.

*shrugs* Ok, my overall point still stands. It should be "paint by numbers" to get your draft picks signed quickly and some teams have caught on to this. The Jeff Ireland-run Dolphins were going in the opposite direction on this, as well as many other common sense things.

yes its easier to do these days, nobody is arguing that. But if its so easy every team should have everyone signed by yesterday or today. They don't. That was the only point. Fins were on top of this and got it done super quick. Not saying they get jobs for life out of it, but give them a some credit...jesus!

Ok, I will give them some credit for not being as stupid as Jeff Ireland.  ;)

May as well give 31 other teams credit then

Ok, I will give them some credit for not being as stupid as Jeff Ireland.  ;)

1/3 of the first round picks are still unsigned. Apparently, what the Dolphins managed in two days wasn't all that easy.

The world is full of idiots. That doesn't make those that aren't idiots geniuses.