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It appears Houston will be featured on Hard Knocks from reports. Not confirmed but that is what is out there. Other 2 finalists are Washington and Buffalo (Buffalo can't be forced so they volunteered). HBO wants Houston though

League wanted Cleveland but many felt that would probably not be fair to Manziel and having cameras follow him 24/7 might put him in a grave, so they backed off the Browns.

At first, I was hoping it would be Tampa, as everything about Jameis would be an interesting storyline for TV.  But now that I think about it, I want a successful team, not a successful soap opera.

Buffalo seems far more interesting than Houston with Rex and the fact they might contend for the division if their QB situation can upgrade to "not a disgrace".

The word is the NFL wants to make JJ Watt a mega star which is why they are picking Houston.  They think giving him exposure will shine a light on a good "character" guy for the league and make him a mega star. Rex plays up to the cameras and we have seen it once, I don't think we need to see the same act again.

I thought JJ Watt already was a mega star.

Which is the team that will contend with a QB, BUF or HOU?  Both of them have good defenses and horrible QBs, and they both finished 9-7 last year.

I agree completely. He's the consensus best defensive player in the league, and almost (ok, 18 votes shy) became the first defensive player to win NFL MVP in 28 years. He's also been the NFL Defensive Player of the Year 2 of the past 3 years.

JJ Watt is already a mega-star...hard to see him get any bigger.

JJ Watt is a big superstar. He has a long way to go to be that mega star though. If you ask 10 random women in a grocery store who JJ Watt is and then ask 10 random women who Tom Brady is you will find out the difference between a big star and a mega star.

exactly!

You could put JJ Watt on the next 5 seasons of Hard Knocks, and random women at grocery stores STILL will have no idea who he is. Random produce aisle wenches don't watch Hard Knocks...

By that criteria, no defensive player will ever be a mega star.

Deion Sanders was a defensive player.

Random women in grocery stores knows who Michael Strahan is, but it has nothing to do with football.

Why yes, yes he was. Top marks for you, laddie! Gold star on your forehead and the honor of riding in the front seat on the short bus, where you can filibuster the bus driver on how comparable Deion's situation twenty five-ish years ago is with J.J. Watt's situation today, and the overwhelming popularity that they both share with the Random Grocery Snatch demographic.

My point isn't that Watt would become a mega star, that was someone else. My point is simply that he is not a mega star already, as was suggested.

It's official, Houston is the team on Hard Knocks.

JJ Watt isn't a mega star, outside of die-hard NFL fans nobody knows who he is

Deion Sanders played every game in the 2005 season, which is not quite 25 years ago.

Ray Lewis was also a defensive player.
So was Jason Taylor.
So was Troy Polamalu.

Instead of whining about filibusters after a 6-word post, why don't you just try admitting that you were wrong?  Or, failing that, why don't you just remain silent?

Instead of twisting things around to represent a position that wasn't even in question before you decided you were a few hours short of your weekly "argue with others" requirement, why don't you just realize that no random women in grocery stores knew who Jason Taylor was before he left the league and became a contestant on Dancing with the Stars. Likewise, the same Grocery wenches had no idea who Polamalu was until the very end of his career, when he started doing shampoo commercials, and they certainly didn't know Ray Lewis until he became a murder suspect on CNN.

My point, now as it was then, is that being on Hard Knocks will do absolutely nothing for J.J. Watt's popularity among random women who aren't already diehard football fans. The reason for that is that nobody other than diehard football fans gives a rat's ass about Hard Knocks.

Now, why don't you go outside and convince the grass that it's actually purple, rather than green...that should get you up to your quota

How about blue?  Boise State, beets, Battlestar Galactica.

Argue at me bro!

Sunstroke, perhaps if you spent less time writing novels accusing others of filibusters, your posts would come off as less hypocritical.

J.J. Watt isn't on Dancing With The Stars.
He's not in Head and Shoulders commercials.
He's also not making music videos (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEEPVGtwsO8).

None of these things have anything to do with being a defensive player, which was the claim I objected to ("no defensive player will ever be a mega star").  It simply has to do with him not being as well-known as other players.

You were wrong, and everyone in the thread is telling you that you are wrong.  For once, try just owning up to it, instead of complaining about completely irrelevant nonsense.

Thanks for taking the time to post, Spidey...always appreciate your opinion.

Does it matter if people outside of the NFL know who anyone on the Houston Squad is?  Just a guess, but I'm thinking the target demo for "Hard Knocks" is not the 34-55 house wife one.  It's the established NFL fan.  Maybe I've completely missed the point.

I am starting to feel like this thread is beginning to serve it's purpose, unless we can get it off "is JJ Watt a superstar"...thing.