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Title: Dolphins front office deserves some blame for team's early struggles
Post by: CF DolFan on September 29, 2015, 05:02:04 pm
Omar brings up what I have been saying. We had problems before we ever took the field for the first game and it had nothing to do with coaching. No one deserves to stay and have any say in where we go from here in my opinion. Time to turn the page and move on from the stench.



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  • Mike Tannenbaum & Dennis Hickey knew that the Dolphins had offensive line and linebacker issues, but did littl

    How many of the Dolphins' glaring problems from 2014 were fixed this offseason?

    The Miami Dolphins still have the same issues the team struggled with last season
Can we put the pitchforks down and pause the "fire Joe Philbin" campaign for a minute?

Or better yet, a couple weeks? I'm thinking until midseason, after the Nov. 8 rematch against Buffalo.

As poorly as Philbin and his coaching staff have performed in the first three games — and they have done at best a mediocre job putting the Dolphins in a position to win on Sundays — it's also reasonable to conclude that Executive Vice President of Football Operations Mike Tannenbaum and General Manager Dennis Hickey have failed at their jobs as well.

Tannenbaum and Hickey deserve a round of applause for offering Ndamukong Suh more money than anyone else in the NFL and landing the All-Pro defensive tackle. But that's one player who hasn't delivered on expectations, just like these Dolphins.

And the truth is that the team Tannenbaum and Hickey handed Philbin has glaring holes everywhere. It's about as deep as a wading pool from a talent standpoint — which we're seeing with every injury.

The front office's job is to give the coaches an improved roster each offseason, to address the squad's deficiencies through free agency, the draft, and waiver-wire rummaging.

Ask yourself: What problematic area from the Dolphins' 2014 team got fixed this offseason?

Go ahead and list them. I'll wait.

And don't say the receiver clearance sale worked in the Dolphins' favor, because quarterback Ryan Tannehill is leaning on Jarvis Landry and Rishard Matthews, two holdovers from last year's unit, not newcomers Greg Jennings, DeVante Parker and Kenny Stills.

Last year's defensive front struggled stopping the run, especially late in the season. The inability to stop the run remains problem No. 1 on this year's defense, and that's with Suh.

Last year, the offensive line was a monumental disaster. Nothing has changed but the name of the starters, and this year's line, which played without left tackle Branden Albert on Sunday because of a hamstring injury, might actually be worse.

Tannehill has been sacked seven times this season, and he is under pressure or hit once every 2.9 times he drops back to pass. And last year the Dolphins at least ranked second in the NFL in yards per carry, but this season they're averaging just 72.7 rushing yards per game, which ranks 27th out of 32 teams.

That means this offensive line has been a failure in both aspects of the jobs, and there is no solution in sight.

The most troubling aspect of the run game struggles is the fact that the Dolphins consistently try to convert third-and-short situations out of the shotgun, or with gimmick running or pass plays.

Where is the power package to convert those hard-to-get first downs, or to punch the ball into the end zone? Maybe if they had that physical running back — or the fullback everyone knew these Dolphins needed — offensive coordinator Bill Lazor wouldn't be calling passing plays four straight times from the 2-yard line like he did in the 41-14 loss to Buffalo.

Last year's linebacker player was subpar. Most of the stops the linebackers made came 5 to 7 yards downfield, and that's being generous.

That unit sparingly made impactful plays, and nothing has changed after three games in 2015. The only thing that's different is that Kelvin Sheppard has replaced Philip Wheeler as the third linebacker on the field. The front office knew the Dolphins needed help at the position and did absolutely nothing of substance in the offseason, unless you count signing Spencer Paysinger, a career special teamer, and adding Zach Vigil as an undrafted rookie free agent.

Brice McCain was the first answer to the offseason question of who would play opposite Brent Grimes. Well, the veteran has been picked on the past two games and appears to be in over his head as a boundary cornerback. McCain, who was used more as a nickel back in his prior stops in Houston and Pittsburgh, was one of five defensive backs the Dolphins added this offseason. It would be a shame if none of them helped patch this leaking secondary.

Those were all issues that anyone who was watching last season should have seen. Yet Dolphins management appears to have failed to provide solutions.

Luckily for Tannenbaum and Hickey, nobody is calling for their heads in the way that people are for Philbin.

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Title: Re: Dolphins front office deserves some blame for team's early struggles
Post by: Phishfan on September 29, 2015, 05:22:01 pm
As for his last line, he can't say no one because CF has been all over the front office this season.


Title: Re: Dolphins front office deserves some blame for team's early struggles
Post by: MikeO on September 29, 2015, 05:32:18 pm
Hickey and Philbin are gong to be gone and fired....it's a matter of WHEN and not IF. Do they do it now or after the season.

Tannenbaum just got here he isn't getting fired. He is running the franchise.

Omar and fans can yell and scream and point fingers, it is what it is and its going to happen. To hope for anything different at this point is just a waste of time.


Title: Re: Dolphins front office deserves some blame for team's early struggles
Post by: dolphins4life on September 29, 2015, 05:41:24 pm
My reaction to this the title of this thread:

In other news today, water is wet  ::)


Title: Re: Dolphins front office deserves some blame for team's early struggles
Post by: Rich on September 30, 2015, 11:33:03 am
Yes, offensive line is still a concern. But where is the responsibility from the coaches for developing offensive linemen? And at linebacker, we have two perfectly decent players in Jenkins and Misi. What happened with the development of Chris McCain? Why doesn't Walk Aikens know to cover the deepest player yet?

Talent is important and the front office certainly needs to draft more consistently.

But I think player development has been lacking from this staff along with schematics and the ability to motivate players.

Also, this staff strongly believes in Dallas Thomas.

The end.


Title: Re: Dolphins front office deserves some blame for team's early struggles
Post by: masterfins on September 30, 2015, 12:11:29 pm
Hickey and Philbin are gong to be gone and fired....it's a matter of WHEN and not IF. Do they do it now or after the season.

Tannenbaum just got here he isn't getting fired. He is running the franchise.


If Tannenbaum is running the franchise then why get rid of Hickey???  Miami's not going to get a decent GM if they know Tannenbaum is just going to overrule the new GM.  Might as well keep Hickey in the position.  IMO I don't think Hickey has been terrible given the circumstance he came into.


Title: Re: Dolphins front office deserves some blame for team's early struggles
Post by: Brian Fein on September 30, 2015, 12:23:38 pm
Tannenbaum just got here he isn't getting fired. He is running the franchise.

...into the ground.

This is the same thing I alluded to in my Monday morning article (http://www.thedolphinsmakemecry.com/content/time-has-come).  MikeO has been saying it all offseason.  This should be a surprise to no one.


Title: Re: Dolphins front office deserves some blame for team's early struggles
Post by: MikeO on September 30, 2015, 12:30:19 pm
If Tannenbaum is running the franchise then why get rid of Hickey???  Miami's not going to get a decent GM if they know Tannenbaum is just going to overrule the new GM.  Might as well keep Hickey in the position.  IMO I don't think Hickey has been terrible given the circumstance he came into.

Aside from Jarvis Landry name 1 draft pick that contributes in a positive way? Yes, Juwaun James starts but he isn't anything special. (giving a pass on Parker due to his injury)

Billy Turner blows
Jordan Tripp was cut
Arthur Lynch was cut
Cedrick Thompson cut
Walt Aikens stinks
Terence Fede is buried on the depth chart, just a guy nothing special
Jamil Douglas is in way over his head, probably due to lack of coaching but he looks horrible
Jordan Phillips was INACTIVE this week. 2nd round pick isn't even active for games...come on
Matt Hazel buried on the depth chart, Fins thought so little of him they went out and added 3 new WR's this year
Tony Lippett moving from WR to CB, total project. Won't play this year
Bobby McCain not active for games, doesn't play
Jay Ajai injured

In 2 years he (Hickey) has given Miami 2 positive contributors with his drafts. Not good enough. In fact its horrible. Not saying every pick needs to be a pro bowler but jesus can we have some of these guys play well and be on 1st or 2nd string depth chart. 2 friggin guys right now! That's it

Tannenbaum inherited Hickey. He didn't hire him. Tannenbaum will oversee the hiring of the next HC and GM and then his clock starts ticking cause if that fails it's on him. This dumpster fire of Hickey and Philbin isn't on Tannenbaum's watch. He inherited this mess and is trying to make it work. Not being a blind apologist for Tannenbaum but those are the facts.


Title: Re: Dolphins front office deserves some blame for team's early struggles
Post by: masterfins on September 30, 2015, 12:46:06 pm
Tannenbaum inherited Hickey. He didn't hire him. Tannenbaum will oversee the hiring of the next HC and GM and then his clock starts ticking cause if that fails it's on him. This dumpster fire of Hickey and Philbin isn't on Tannenbaum's watch. He inherited this mess and is trying to make it work. Not being a blind apologist for Tannenbaum but those are the facts.

But you are being a Tannenbaum apologist.  He was hired in August 2014.  On one hand you say he is running the franchise, and on the other hand your saying he had nothing to do with this past years' draft, putting all the blame on Hickey.

Don't forget that Tannenbaum is the one who brought Tim Tebow to the Jets.


Title: Re: Dolphins front office deserves some blame for team's early struggles
Post by: CF DolFan on September 30, 2015, 01:47:03 pm
Not sure why Mike has the man-love for Tannenbaum.  It really seems to go against his nature so I'm guessing they have a connection somewhere.

Bring in a new staff or keep the old. Don't change the bottom part of it and expect different results from the same decision maker.


Title: Re: Dolphins front office deserves some blame for team's early struggles
Post by: MikeO on September 30, 2015, 02:02:38 pm
But you are being a Tannenbaum apologist.  He was hired in August 2014.  On one hand you say he is running the franchise, and on the other hand your saying he had nothing to do with this past years' draft, putting all the blame on Hickey.

Don't forget that Tannenbaum is the one who brought Tim Tebow to the Jets.

Tannenbaum did NOT bring Tebow to the Jets. Woody Johnson did to get back page headlines and sell tickets because he had a new stadium he couldn't sell tickets too. That is 100% false. Anyone who knows anything about that situation knows Rex and Tannenbaum didn't want him and the owner forced him on them to sell tickets.

Tannenbaum was hired as Executive VP of the fins Feb 1st of this year. Prior to that he was just a "consultant" and wasn't even living in Miami. He had no say into anything, he had the old Carl Peterson role of being Ross's buddy and giving him pointers. He wasn't calling any shots.

Your time-line is all messed up


Title: Re: Dolphins front office deserves some blame for team's early struggles
Post by: MikeO on September 30, 2015, 02:04:13 pm
Not sure why Mike has the man-love for Tannenbaum.  It really seems to go against his nature so I'm guessing they have a connection somewhere.

Bring in a new staff or keep the old. Don't change the bottom part of it and expect different results from the same decision maker.

Because Tannenabum didn't make this mess. He didn't hire Philbin. He didn't hire Hickey. Hell he has only been the Executive VP since Feb 1st!! From Feb 1st to now Tannenbaum didn't create this disaster. Sorry, that's just facts. Not saying Tannenbaum is great or a god but lets be fair.....he has been here 8 months in this role....that's it!  Those are facts!


Title: Re: Dolphins front office deserves some blame for team's early struggles
Post by: Brian Fein on September 30, 2015, 02:38:53 pm
Feb 1st hired, draft in late April, you don't think he had a single opinion or input into the draft which you claim was so awful?


Title: Re: Dolphins front office deserves some blame for team's early struggles
Post by: MikeO on September 30, 2015, 02:51:27 pm
Feb 1st hired, draft in late April, you don't think he had a single opinion or input into the draft which you claim was so awful?

Having an opinion is one thing. To blame the 2014 draft on him and free agents is beyond stupid.  Did he have an opinion on the 2015 draft...yeah sure. You want to fire him over just that? When he didn't pick the head coach or the GM? And newsflash: the draft is on Hickey!! He is the GM. HE has final say. Tannenabum may assist and aid to what extent we will never know....but sorry you can't put this all on Tannenbaum.

Tannenbaum isn't getting fired, he has been here 8 months. Hope for it all you want, in reality its not happening. Let's talk about reality and not pie in the sky dreams and wishes

Again, to be clear....Tannenbaum may hire a awful head coach and GM and this may get worse. If it does its on his watch. Hickey and Philbin ain't on his watch. He hired neither and has had little say into this roster as its constructed


Title: Re: Dolphins front office deserves some blame for team's early struggles
Post by: Brian Fein on September 30, 2015, 02:57:22 pm
I don't blame Tannenbaum, I blame them both.  If the EVP of a franchise thinks there's a problem and it goes unaddressed, there should be consequences.  Its not like he is going to sit there and say "oh well, I told him to go get Evan Mathis, and he didn't" - then he should also be fired for being incompetent and not aggressive enough to perform his job.


Title: Re: Dolphins front office deserves some blame for team's early struggles
Post by: MikeO on September 30, 2015, 03:10:28 pm
I don't blame Tannenbaum, I blame them both.  If the EVP of a franchise thinks there's a problem and it goes unaddressed, there should be consequences.  Its not like he is going to sit there and say "oh well, I told him to go get Evan Mathis, and he didn't" - then he should also be fired for being incompetent and not aggressive enough to perform his job.

You have no idea what was said to who behind closed doors and who wanted who. To be so over the top on a guy who has been in a role for 8 months is silly.

The GM has final say over the roster, it's in his contract. If you wanted Tannenbaum to just fire Hickey on the spo because he didn't do every little move Tannenbaum wanted then that's just stupid and not realistic.

Ross isn't firing Tannenbaum after hiring him 8 months ago. Direct your rage and anger over that elsewhere cause you are just gonna work yourself up over something that isn't going to happen


Title: Re: Dolphins front office deserves some blame for team's early struggles
Post by: Rich on September 30, 2015, 03:12:46 pm
Technically, Tannenbaum cannot have final say over personnel because of the Rooney Rule.


Title: Re: Dolphins front office deserves some blame for team's early struggles
Post by: MikeO on September 30, 2015, 03:15:15 pm
Technically, Tannenbaum cannot have final say over personnel because of the Rooney Rule.


100% correct. Plus Hickey when he signed his GM deal (before Tannenbaum was hired by Ross) had it put in his contract he has final say over the roster


Title: Re: Dolphins front office deserves some blame for team's early struggles
Post by: CF DolFan on September 30, 2015, 03:36:29 pm
Funny that Miami reporters specifically have called out Tannenbaum as being the one to work the Mathis deal. Omar did it again this week as well blamed the O-line on him. Let's see ... a guy who makes his living working directly with the people involved or a guy who has a blog on the internet pretending to be the end all of Dolphins affairs? Hmmm ...


Title: Re: Dolphins front office deserves some blame for team's early struggles
Post by: MikeO on September 30, 2015, 04:07:18 pm
Funny that Miami reporters specifically have called out Tannenbaum as being the one to work the Mathis deal. Omar did it again this week as well blamed the O-line on him. Let's see ... a guy who makes his living working directly with the people involved or a guy who has a blog on the internet pretending to be the end all of Dolphins affairs? Hmmm ...

Omar has a history of being wrong. Ask Jamar Taylor who he tweeted was being brought to the back for an MRI. Taylor tweeted him 3 min later saying he was going to the trainers room to get treatment in the hot-tub or whatever its called. Omar is hardly a reporter anymore.

Also pictures online of Omar sleeping at the Dolphins facility when practice is going on and he is "working" and "on the job" for the newspaper.

P.S...I'm not saying Tannenabum doesn't have power, I'm saying you and I don't know how much and to blame him for everything is silly. And if you think Evan Mathis on the Fins fixes this teams problems and they would be 3-0 your nuts. I'm not making it out that Tannenabum is a savior. Just saying let's live in reality. He's been here 8 months. He didn't hire Philbin and Hickey. Tannenbaum's finger prints over this roster is really minimal. Tannenbaum isn't getting fired. LIVE IN REALITY, it's not happening.



Title: Re: Dolphins front office deserves some blame for team's early struggles
Post by: Rich on September 30, 2015, 04:10:59 pm
Funny that Miami reporters specifically have called out Tannenbaum as being the one to work the Mathis deal. Omar did it again this week as well blamed the O-line on him. Let's see ... a guy who makes his living working directly with the people involved or a guy who has a blog on the internet pretending to be the end all of Dolphins affairs? Hmmm ...

Are you aware of Omar Kelly's history when it comes to credibility?

It appears not.


Title: Re: Dolphins front office deserves some blame for team's early struggles
Post by: MikeO on September 30, 2015, 04:12:27 pm
Also Kevin Burnett punched Omar out after a game because Omar was reporting lies and false stuff about him. Omar has no credibility with the players at all and if you listen to the press conferences (MiamiDolphins.com FREE to listen) when he asks something the coaches always chuckle and laugh first cause its stupid questions and they usually make no sense


Title: Re: Dolphins front office deserves some blame for team's early struggles
Post by: CF DolFan on October 01, 2015, 09:26:33 am
Omar, Armando, Chris Perkins, Dave Hyde, Ethan Skolnick, James Walker and the list goes on and on. I've been to parties with some of these guys with actual current and past players and I can assure you they have credible relationships.  I'm not kidding when I say I actually lough out loud when people criticize these reporters and their credibility.

The amount of crap posted on these message boards that never pans out to have any truth to it and you fault guys who actually have to put things in writing? Ever think things sometimes change before it gets public or that things automatically get covered after getting outed?

I've done things (including lot's of alcohol) with players and staff just through my little connections that would blow most people's minds and you don't think these reporters have a better inside than I? You're kidding yourself if you think that. Players are just like all of us. They bitch, gossip, and like to have a good time.