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It makes sense if you want to keep as much of your coaching staff in place as possible and I think there is some merit in that. Think about it. All you really need is to find a TE's coach now. How tough can that be? I think Coyle and Lazor are staying for at least 2 weeks. This makes sense if your desire is to try to hold it together like they are saying they do and see if a different head coach really can make a difference or if the staff really sucks as bad as the players are playing. This is now on Coyle and Lazor. If things get better, then Philbin was the problem or at least that will be the assumption. If things don't get better than Philbin really didn't matter and Coyle and Lazor are at least equally to blame for this disaster and they'll be gone before long too.

Now it's time for Coyle and Lazor to put up or be shown the door. It's their jobs on the line now. You got 2 weeks to show some progress or you will be next. In the mean time, start checking resumes for offensive and defensive coordinators.

The other thing is that Campbell is the polar opposite of Philbin. Again, test the waters. See what happens with this team when you go from the coach who doesn't get riled when his son drowns to the coach who is gonna get in your grill when you miss an assignment. How do the players react to that? Positive or negative? Who steps up and who lays down? All good things to find out THIS year.

If Coyle has  job by tomorrow I would be a bit surprised.

Yeah really. Its the bye week. If Coyle remains, he isn't going to get fired two weeks later.

If Coyle isn't fired sometime today then odds are he is staying. I'm shocked he is still employed and wasn't let go yesterday honestly

Yes, not sure why Campbell is hesitant to make this decision. It seems like a no-brainer.

I'm not sure if Campbell has that power to make that call and fire Coyle. Campbell might be a puppet honestly. Ross/Hickey/Tannenbaum are probably making the call on Coyle

it should still be a no brainer. His defense is ranked 57th against the run and 43rd overall in a 32 team league.

I read somewhere that Tannenbaum said Campbell has full authority to make the calls on the staff and anything else he wants to change.

Yep, Ross said in his statement that Campbell has control over the staff. That said, you can't get ris of absolutely everyone because coaches already have jobs and aren;t leaving one to take one under an interim coach mid-season.

If you can promote a TE coach to head coach you can promote a LB coach to DC.

^^^ Yes, but that wasn't my point. I probably should have been more clear that I was talking about outside candidates. Given the performance of our staff do you actually think any of the position coaches are qualified to take on the role? I've got little to no faith on anyone on the staff at this point.

Honestly does it matter? Not like they are going to turn it around this year. This year is over, it's a lost season.  A new DC whether inside hire or outside hire isn't making Cam Wake 5 years younger? Won't make Walt Aikens a capable NFL player. Won't make Shephard a decent MLB. Yes Coyle sucks and the coaching is bad, but coaching can only fix so much. The players aren't there

Just because the guys on top suck doesn't mean all the guys below them suck.

Maybe the new DC can at least get Suh to wear cleats to practice?

They aren't getting any benefit of the doubt from me. They don't just sit around waiting on instructions from above. These guys have been responsible for coaching all week as well and they have not been performing.

Nope. I'm on record saying the season is over.

Fine, but if the problem is the scheme, then what is a position coach going to do to resolve that? The Dolphins have deployed a read and react scheme under Coyle instead of an attack and disrupt scheme. If you are taking an extra half second to read the play, you're already a half second behind the play. Corners and safeties should be reading plays, MLBs as well. Defensive linemen should be disrupting or taking up blocks. In our scheme, the DTs are being asked to read and react. It is a ridiculous concept.

Lot's of people play that way. I played that same scheme. The problem is our players haven't bought into it or don't want to because it's more work for them.

If you are shooting gaps then it actually can become easier to block you.

I've never heard of defensive tackles needing to read and react.

It's pretty simple. You either beat the guy blocking you or he beats you.

When you're so close to the LOS, you should be disrupting play design, not waiting for the play to develop to decide what to do.

This is the same exact problem with the Hurricanes defense.

To augment and finalize my point, let's look at how Suh performed when he was a penetrator/disruptor in Detroit versus now where he is being asked to read and react.

The best pass rush Miami had Sunday vs the Jets was when Suh lined up at RDE for a few plays.

Like Tannehill, Suh can't do it alone. OV, Wake, Fede, Shelby have been poor this year.

LB should read and react unless blitzing. Dline just needs to fill their gaps.

I don't buy it. The season is not over yet. I've seen worse train wrecks than this be fixed in a short enough time frame to save the season, but it won't be easy. They've got to do a 180 in 2 weeks and come out and play hard. Can that happen with Dan Campbell? I doubt it, but stranger things have happened. Maybe the season is over, but I'm not buying it until after the Titans game. If they play the way they have been playing against the Titans, then the season is over, but if they show improvement, just a modicum of improvement there is still time to save this year. Not save it to the tune of Superbowl, but save it to the tune of playing meaningful games at the end of the season.

Here's someone who knows a hell of a lot more about football than me explaining it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fancy-stats/wp/2015/10/06/stop-blaming-ndamukong-suh-ryan-tannehill-for-dolphins-ills-heres-the-real-answer/?postshare=8681444142767097

^^^ I posted that link earlier today on this site. It makes sense, but Dan Campbell can't make Turner, Douglas, Thomas, Aiken, Shephard, and the corners who are struggling mightily QUALITY NFL players. There is no scheme to hide them. There is no magic wand to make them good overnight.

why?  You haven't been in  the meeting Campbell has.  Maybe there is an assistant linebackers coach that has been making solid suggestions to improve the defense  all season that Coyle dismisses but Cambell thinks is brilliant.