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Title: Best assets to build around.
Post by: Dave Gray on October 15, 2015, 05:11:34 pm
Let's say you're the GM and you're looking at talent.  Take into consideration quality of player, age, and cost.

Which 5 players do you build around to give you the best shot at the future?


Title: Re: Best assets to build around.
Post by: Spider-Dan on October 15, 2015, 05:47:05 pm
Tannehill, Pouncey, Landry, Suh, Jones


Title: Re: Best assets to build around.
Post by: Phishfan on October 15, 2015, 06:04:09 pm
Spider nailed it. I don't think this roster is deep enough that there would be many other options to consider.


Title: Re: Best assets to build around.
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on October 15, 2015, 06:11:52 pm
Brandon fields.  ;D


Title: Re: Best assets to build around.
Post by: MikeO on October 15, 2015, 06:33:40 pm
Spider named them, but Jones might not be here long-term. The rest are 100% correct. The reason why the Fins head coaching job is attractive now is that you have a young QB who has gotten better every year (although this year might be a step backwards due to the piss poor o-line actually being worse and coaching chaos) and you have an anchor on defense in Suh.

Having a young QB under 30 who is getting better and one of the Top 3 defensive players in the NFL throw in the salary cap situation isn't as bad as the media makes it out to be and this job is attractive.

Now look after Suh the rest of the front 7 is garbage and the o-line is a dumpster fire. But the anchor's are there to build around. I know it's tough to do but right now on Oct 15 the  best thing for Miami to do is have a 1-15 or 2-14 season hold that #1 pick and trade down to a QB needy team and load up on draft picks like the Rams did with RGIII.  More young assets are needed!


Title: Re: Best assets to build around.
Post by: Dave Gray on October 16, 2015, 11:06:12 am
No love for Grimes?


Title: Re: Best assets to build around.
Post by: Sunstroke on October 16, 2015, 11:12:47 am

I was all set to go into player-crunching mode to pick my five cornerstones, then I read Spidey's post and thought "Yeah, that's probably it right there."




Title: Re: Best assets to build around.
Post by: Phishfan on October 16, 2015, 11:14:02 am
No Dave. Grimes is OK but to be honest he is way undersized and just because he is our best corner at the time doesn't mean much in terms of a nucleus building block.


Title: Re: Best assets to build around.
Post by: Tenshot13 on October 16, 2015, 11:20:20 am
No love for Grimes?

He's on the bubble only because of his age.  Tannehill, Pouncey, Landry, Suh, Jones are still young and just hitting their stride, other than Suh.


Title: Re: Best assets to build around.
Post by: MikeO on October 16, 2015, 12:44:13 pm
Grimes contract and his wife's behavior and her radio show might get him sent packing after this season.

Sorta depends on how much the next Head Coach wants to tolerate with her and the circus she brings to the organization


Title: Re: Best assets to build around.
Post by: CF DolFan on October 16, 2015, 03:42:04 pm
I know it hasn't happened yet but I fully expect Devante Parker to be more important to our long term success than Landry ... and I love Landry.


Title: Re: Best assets to build around.
Post by: masterfins on October 16, 2015, 04:45:39 pm
I know it hasn't happened yet but I fully expect Devante Parker to be more important to our long term success than Landry ... and I love Landry.

Yeah, I'm hoping we see something from him before the season is over.


Title: Re: Best assets to build around.
Post by: AZ Fins Fan 55 on October 19, 2015, 01:38:33 pm
What is the word on Parker? Is he getting any reps at all? I expected to see him contribute at least a little more than this by now.


Title: Re: Best assets to build around.
Post by: Brian Fein on October 19, 2015, 04:29:07 pm
he had 2 or 3 catches in the jets game.  he was invisible yesterday.

To me, Landry is the best player on the team and it isn't even close.


Title: Re: Best assets to build around.
Post by: fyo on October 19, 2015, 04:45:06 pm
he had 2 or 3 catches in the jets game.  he was invisible yesterday.

To me, Landry is the best player on the team and it isn't even close.

Landry has enormous potential. Some people will knock him for height, size, whatever, but I don't see any reason for him not to become a pro bowl caliber receiver. He had a 75% catch rate last year. That's ELITE, regardless of offensive scheme (the knock would be "possession receiver").

He just has a certain spark that can really ignite the team when they're down. It'll be interesting to watch him develop over the next couple of years.


Title: Re: Best assets to build around.
Post by: Brian Fein on October 20, 2015, 10:43:34 am
here's where I get crazy.  Brace yourself...

I feel that Jarvis Landry is as good of a WR as Odell Beckham.

BOOM.

Beckham gets the visibility cause he plays in NY with Eli and made that ridiculous catch last season vs the Cowboys.  Great player.  I think Landry can be just as good, but seems that he will never get the national recognition as such due to his circumstance.


Title: Re: Best assets to build around.
Post by: Rich on October 20, 2015, 11:22:30 am
here's where I get crazy.  Brace yourself...

I feel that Jarvis Landry is as good of a WR as Odell Beckham.

BOOM.

Beckham gets the visibility cause he plays in NY with Eli and made that ridiculous catch last season vs the Cowboys.  Great player.  I think Landry can be just as good, but seems that he will never get the national recognition as such due to his circumstance.
The production difference between Beckham and Landry say a completely different story.


Title: Re: Best assets to build around.
Post by: MikeO on October 20, 2015, 11:51:20 am
Beckham is a better player. Not a knock on Landry but Beckham is just better


Title: Re: Best assets to build around.
Post by: Phishfan on October 20, 2015, 12:19:47 pm
He also catches the ball more than three yards downfield. That is my one knock on Landry and that isn't even his fault though.


Title: Re: Best assets to build around.
Post by: Sunstroke on October 20, 2015, 01:31:01 pm
I loves me some Jarvis Landry, but if I could trade him for Beckham jr., I would in a heartbeat, and probably give up something else to sweeten the deal.



Title: Re: Best assets to build around.
Post by: Brian Fein on October 20, 2015, 02:22:45 pm
He also catches the ball more than three yards downfield. That is my one knock on Landry and that isn't even his fault though.
This guy gets it.  They play in different offenses.  I think Beckham is probably a bit faster, but I think Landry's hands and athleticism are on par.


Title: Re: Best assets to build around.
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on October 20, 2015, 05:59:06 pm
Next Brian  is going to tell us that Camron is just as good as Gronk and Tanny is every bit as good as Rodgers,  it is they just play in different systems.


Title: Re: Best assets to build around.
Post by: Run Ricky Run on October 20, 2015, 07:00:59 pm
Landry is slow, he is  short and he has average hands. 

While this is talking about impact on fantasy, it is pretty clear he is a terrible receiver.  http://nocoastbias.com/is-jarvis-landry-overrated-in-dynasty-leagues/


Title: Re: Best assets to build around.
Post by: Tenshot13 on October 20, 2015, 07:51:11 pm
^although Brian might be reaching, calling Landry a terrible receiver is just plain ignorant. You're trolling, it's the only explanation for saying something so moronic.


Title: Re: Best assets to build around.
Post by: Pappy13 on October 20, 2015, 08:36:23 pm
I wouldn't take anyone in the league for Landry. When you consider his running, blocking and return skills, there's not a wide receiver in the league that does more for his team.