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Title: Divisional Weekend
Post by: BuccaneerBrad on January 10, 2016, 09:30:47 pm
Wild Card Weekend is in the books.  And it surely was wild in a couple of games.  For the few that made predictions, here's how it stands so far.  Most of us looked very good.

4-0-  Sunstroke, CF Dolfan

3-1-  EKnight, myself

2-2- TenShot13, Masterfins

Now we've got Kansas City @ New England, Pittsburgh @ Denver, Seattle @ Carolina and Green Bay @ Arizona.

I'm taking Kansas City, Denver, Carolina and Arizona, although I think Seattle is going to give Carolina fits.


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: Sunstroke on January 10, 2016, 10:47:13 pm


Let it ride:  New England, Denver, Seattle & Arizona.



Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: dolphins4life on January 10, 2016, 10:49:35 pm
What I want

Denver, KC, Seattle, and GB

What I predict

Pitt, NE, Car, and Arz


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: Sunstroke on January 11, 2016, 11:54:26 am
What I want

Denver, KC, Seattle, and GB

What I predict

Pitt, NE, Car, and Arz

I predict that you'll be completely right...and completely wrong.

Cue the facepalm from Tenshot...



Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: DaLittle B on January 11, 2016, 02:14:32 pm
Ehh I didn't watch much football outside of the Dolphins,so I didn't see many teams play unless they played the Dolphins (or the Bears,though I didn't watch many Bears games this year either!).

I don't know if I could take the Chiefs in,or winning the Superbowl. K.C. winning the world series,Cool,I can dig it. The Chiefs fans here would beyond pains in the arse!

I'd be fine with Packers,Steelers,Cardinals,and Broncos in the the Superbowl..

(I'm tired of the Seahawks,explained the Chiefs,New England the whole division rival thing,Don't really like the Panthers.I'd prefer it not be a Superbowl rematch of Steelers/Cardinals,but not the worst thing either)


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: CF DolFan on January 11, 2016, 03:58:00 pm
Kansas City @ New England

Pittsburgh @ Denver

Seattle @ Carolina

Green Bay @ Arizona

From the looks of the last game I'm not sure how but Patriots over KC. Pittsburgh is so beat up that Denver should be fine at home. Carolina will beat Seattle if they can control Lynch and in an upset I see Green Bay beating Arizona.
 
Patriots
Denver
Carolina
Green Bay


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: Tenshot13 on January 11, 2016, 04:19:55 pm
I predict that you'll be completely right...and completely wrong.

Cue the facepalm from Tenshot...


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Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: Sunstroke on January 11, 2016, 04:48:12 pm

^^^ Absolutely awesome...I had guys across the office coming over to see what had me laughing my ass off. ;D




Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: dolphins4life on January 11, 2016, 09:48:18 pm
I predict that you'll be completely right...and completely wrong.

Cue the facepalm from Tenshot...



Sorry I am confused by this.

What I posted for my predictions seems pretty clear to me.

I want the teams I posted first to win.

But if I was betting, (which I will never do since I don't think I will ever know for certain whether or not it is legal), I would bet on NE, Pitt, Car, and AZ

I can't be completely right and completely wrong.

My predictions are quite clear. 

Is there a rule on this site that says that you have to predict for the teams you are rooting for?


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: dolphins4life on January 11, 2016, 10:18:08 pm
Sometimes I facepalm when I read some of what you people write.

Like how you guys think I secretly like the Patriots.

Presenting:

http://www.thedolphinsmakemecry.com/forums/index.php?topic=23617.0 (http://www.thedolphinsmakemecry.com/forums/index.php?topic=23617.0)

Heck in the last game of 2006, I rooted AGAINST Miami because them winning would have benefited the Patriots. 





Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: Sunstroke on January 12, 2016, 07:31:17 am

^^^ The fact that you simply have no clue why you get a steady stream of facepalms is the exact reason you keep saying things that get you facepalmed. It's a goofy catch-22 time loop from which you are powerless to escape...




Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: masterfins on January 12, 2016, 02:49:15 pm
Kansas City
Denver
Seattle
Arizona


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: AZ Fins Fan 55 on January 15, 2016, 02:17:53 pm
K.C.
Denver
Carolina
Arizona


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: Tenshot13 on January 15, 2016, 02:34:41 pm
Kansas City
Denver
Seattle
Arizona


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: dolphins4life on January 15, 2016, 06:24:40 pm
^^^^

Now do I get to facepalm you for quoting him?


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: EKnight on January 15, 2016, 08:45:55 pm
Pats, Broncos, Pack, Cam.


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: BuccaneerBrad on January 16, 2016, 07:55:42 pm
And the fat walrus stinks up the joint in the playoffs again.  Knowing perfectly well that Tom Brady gets rattled when pressured, he proceeds to constantly put in seven DBs and rush only three.


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: BuccaneerBrad on January 16, 2016, 11:42:08 pm
What a wild finish in Arizona!!!


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: Tenshot13 on January 17, 2016, 12:32:41 am
^^^^

Now do I get to facepalm you for quoting him?
Why would you do that?  I quoted him bc I picked the same teams to win as him. It's a common practice in forums, so not to repeat something someone already said. It's like saying "I agree with you".


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: Sunstroke on January 17, 2016, 12:55:38 am

So far, so good...now I just need Seattle and Denver to win tomorrow to get to 8-0. I'll definitely be cheering against Denver though, because of an office pool I'm in. If Seattle wins tomorrow and Denver loses, I am pretty much guaranteed $60.





Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: dolphins4life on January 17, 2016, 10:20:51 am
Why would you do that?  I quoted him bc I picked the same teams to win as him. It's a common practice in forums, so not to repeat something someone already said. It's like saying "I agree with you".

that is the point. I am facepalming you for no reason like you did to me   lol


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: Sunstroke on January 17, 2016, 01:06:27 pm
that is the point. I am facepalming you for no reason like you did to me   lol

The point, Lifer, is that every time he facepalms you, there is an overwhelming reason for doing it. You, for whatever reason, simply aren't equipped to recognize it.




Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: BuccaneerBrad on January 17, 2016, 02:22:20 pm
What an idiot move by Pete Carroll.  You're down 31-0 and deep in Panther territory.  Kick the FG and take the points.  You just demoralized your team by being greedy.  Notice how every team he has coached has gone downhill every year.  I can see the Seahawks being out of the playoffs next year


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: Sunstroke on January 17, 2016, 03:35:14 pm
What an idiot move by Pete Carroll. 
Notice how every team he has coached has gone downhill every year. 

Absolutely ridiculous. He actually took over the Seahawks when they were at the bottom of the hill and he led Seattle up the hill in the first place. I mean, seriously...they are trying to make their 5th straight conference championship game this season.  If Miami had Pete Carroll as their HC, he would easily be the best coach they've had since Shula left.




Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: BuccaneerBrad on January 17, 2016, 04:12:09 pm
Absolutely ridiculous. He actually took over the Seahawks when they were at the bottom of the hill and he led Seattle up the hill in the first place. I mean, seriously...they are trying to make their 5th straight conference championship game this season.  If Miami had Pete Carroll as their HC, he would easily be the best coach they've had since Shula left.

My bad.  I was thinking about his performance with the Jets and New England and lost sight of when he took over in Seattle. 

That said, you can't deny the fact that passing up that field goal came back to bite his team in the ass


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: Spider-Dan on January 17, 2016, 04:47:20 pm
How did passing up a field goal "come back to bite him in the ass" when they lost by 7?

Anyway, I said (nay, guaranteed) that #6 SEA would beat #1 CAR in this round, and I was wrong, so I'll eat my crow on this one.  I thought CAR would join the ranks of 15-2 teams, but it looks like the Cardinals are next to show or go.


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: BuccaneerBrad on January 17, 2016, 05:40:27 pm
How did passing up a field goal "come back to bite him in the ass" when they lost by 7?

Anyway, I said (nay, guaranteed) that #6 SEA would beat #1 CAR in this round, and I was wrong, so I'll eat my crow on this one.  I thought CAR would join the ranks of 15-2 teams, but it looks like the Cardinals are next to show or go.

If they take the field goal at the end of the first half, they are down by 7 and don't have to kick one late in the game. They could've gone for the TD late and tied it.   If they take that field goal AND make the long one that they missed, they win the game


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: dolphins4life on January 17, 2016, 07:00:35 pm
How does my saying that what I predict is different than what I want warrant a facepalm  using a joke when it is not called for derails threads


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: Tenshot13 on January 17, 2016, 08:24:32 pm
How does my saying that what I predict is different than what I want warrant a facepalm  using a joke when it is not called for derails threads
Dude, just let it go. You're just coming off salty.


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: BuccaneerBrad on January 17, 2016, 08:45:36 pm
Looks like all the home teams won this weekend after all the road teams won last weekend.   Also glad to see another showdown between Brady and Manning.  Looks like this might be the last one we see


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: dolphins4life on January 17, 2016, 10:48:20 pm
Dude, just let it go. Your just coming off salty.

No, I just feel like I entered the room after somebody told a joke, so I want to hear what the joke was.

Anyway here are my thoughts

1) The Patriots broke the record this weekend for the most number of fluke plays benefited from in NFL history.  Brady, as I said eariler, is the luckiest quarterback of all time, greatest is still up for debate.  Though with his own play this weekend he certainly helped his cause.

2) On Pete Carroll.  I need to know, is he to blame for the play-calling in the Super Bowl last year?  If so, that means he has made bone-headed decisions in two straight playoff years.  And Brad, you are absolutely right when you talk about the missed field goal coming back to bite them.  If it is a one score game on the last possession you handle it differently. 

3) Decisions like Carroll's are the most frustrating thing about being a fan.  Your coach is doing something you know is completely stupid and you feel helpless to do anything about it.  I just don't get why you do things so stupid.  It is so obvious to kick the field goal there. 

4) I thought I saw Aaron Rodgers' playoff record as 4-3 on a graphic on Saturday.  I think he has lost to the Cardinals twice, the 49ers twice, and the Seahawks once, so maybe I saw it wrong or read it wrong.  Anyway, the Packers really must hate the NFC West.

5) I went 3-1 on picks, which leaves me sad. 

6) Should the Broncos have been flagged for pass interference on the Steelers' second drive?  The defender never turned back for the ball.

7) How good would the Dolphins be with Carroll?  Idk.  I think the Dolphins problem is dumb drafting, and again, I don't know how much of the Head Coach's responsibility that is.

8) If there is any justice in the World the Broncos will win next week.  That would be the Patriots' karma for tanking the last two games of the season.  I hope Denver fans come out in full force and act like Seattle fans. 


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: dolphins4life on January 17, 2016, 11:11:22 pm
I meant to type 8) and I got sunglasses


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: Spider-Dan on January 17, 2016, 11:52:51 pm
If they take the field goal at the end of the first half, they are down by 7 and don't have to kick one late in the game. They could've gone for the TD late and tied it.
So your point is that if they didn't go for the TD instead of a FG, they could have went for a TD instead of a FG?

Would it somehow have been preferable to fail to convert a 4th-and-15 at the end of the second half instead of a 4th-and-5 at the end of the first half?  They were both at the CAR 18-yard-line, and 5 yards is a lot less than 15. 

A failed conversion is a failed conversion.


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: dolphins4life on January 18, 2016, 12:26:43 am
But if it's a one score game, you handle the play calling differently than if it's a two score game.

You take the points there.  Carroll was nuts.

Better be to be driving for a tie late in the game rather than driving to cut it to a one score game.

By your logic, if it is 10-0 in the first quarter, you should go for it then, too. 


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: Spider-Dan on January 18, 2016, 12:39:33 am
Once again:

If you take the field goal at the end of the first half, and then go for the TD at the end of the second half and fail (you know, like they actually did when they tried with a shorter yards-to-first), then you still lose by 7 points.

So you're basically just saying that Carroll should have taken a different path to the same 7-point loss: one that involves trying to convert a 4th-and-15 instead of a 4th-and-5.

This is not good logic.

P.S.  Any coach that kicks field goals on 4th-and-5 from his opponents 18-yard-line when down 31-0 does not deserve to have a job.


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: dolphins4life on January 18, 2016, 12:46:31 am
Once again:

If you take the field goal at the end of the first half, and then go for the TD at the end of the second half and fail (you know, like they actually did when they tried with a shorter yards-to-first), then you still lose by 7 points.

So you're basically just saying that Carroll should have taken a different path to the same 7-point loss: one that involves trying to convert a 4th-and-15 instead of a 4th-and-5.

This is not good logic.

That's not what I am saying.

I am saying that if it is a one score game at the end rather than a two score game, things are much different.

Which is why they should have kicked the field goal.

When it is a one score game, the clock is MUCH less of a factor.  You don't have to worry about having time left to score again.  This gives you much more options in terms of play calling.

Look at the plays

1st and 10 with 1:26 left:  Spike to stop the clock (which you don't have to do if it's a one score game.  Thus you lost a down)

After a penalty the next two passes were deep incompletions.  If it's a one score game, you have much more flexibility.  You can even try a surprise running play, or shorter passes because you aren't thinking in terms of having to score twice.

Thus, it DID come back to bite them in the ass.

Don't tell you are going to facepalm me now, too  ::)


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: dolphins4life on January 18, 2016, 12:59:21 am
Once again:

If you take the field goal at the end of the first half, and then go for the TD at the end of the second half and fail (you know, like they actually did when they tried with a shorter yards-to-first), then you still lose by 7 points.

So you're basically just saying that Carroll should have taken a different path to the same 7-point loss: one that involves trying to convert a 4th-and-15 instead of a 4th-and-5.

This is not good logic.

P.S.  Any coach that kicks field goals on 4th-and-5 from his opponents 18-yard-line when down 31-0 does not deserve to have a job.

Disagree completely.  In fact I feel the opposite.

31 points is a five score game (Any team that can get three two point conversions in a game will rarely ever be down by 31 points.

You have a easy chance to get one of those scores now, you take it.

Do you agree with what I am saying in that the final drive is much easier if you need one score rather than two?


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: Spider-Dan on January 18, 2016, 01:04:38 am
I fail to see how the final drive becomes "easier" when you still need a touchdown anyway.

4th-and-15 is definitely not "easier" than 4th-and-5.


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: dolphins4life on January 18, 2016, 01:04:49 am
I often think about what the opponent would want me to do if I was a coach in that situation, (then do the opposite) but that is hard to apply here.


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: dolphins4life on January 18, 2016, 01:06:09 am
I fail to see how the final drive becomes "easier" when you still need a touchdown.

Because you don't have to spike the ball to stop the clock.

You can use the entire field, rather than just the deep passes and the sidelines.

You don't have to abandon your running game. 

Are those three good reasons?


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: Spider-Dan on January 18, 2016, 01:08:37 am
You said, "Any team that can get three two point conversions in a game will rarely ever be down by 31 points. "

Any team that is down 31-0 in the first half has no reason to believe that they will keep their opponent from scoring again.  Therefore, it makes no sense to talk about the game in the sense of "five scores" or "three scores" because you cannot predict what the opponent will score in the second half.


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: dolphins4life on January 18, 2016, 01:09:33 am
You said, "Any team that can get three two point conversions in a game will rarely ever be down by 31 points. "

Any team that is down 31-0 in the first half has no reason to believe that they will keep their opponent from scoring again.  Therefore, it makes no sense to talk about the game in the sense of "five scores" or "three scores" because you cannot predict what the opponent will score in the second half.

Why not?  It has happened before, just ask the Buffalo Bills. 



Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: Spider-Dan on January 18, 2016, 01:13:39 am
Why not draft franchise QBs in the 6th round?  It has happened before, just ask the New England Patriots.


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: dolphins4life on January 18, 2016, 01:16:30 am
I think we are getting sidetracked here.

Do you think it is easier for Carolina on their last drive if they are down 7 rather than 10?

I say yes, for the three reasons I listed earlier.

Do those reasons hold water?