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Title: Game Balls - Rams
Post by: dolphins4life on November 20, 2016, 07:24:15 pm
Devante Parker


Title: Re: Game Balls - Rams
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on November 20, 2016, 07:29:58 pm
Can I just say 4th Quarter Ryan Tannehill? It would be wrong to include the QB who played the first 3 quarters.


Title: Re: Game Balls - Rams
Post by: Baba Booey on November 20, 2016, 07:36:41 pm
Tannehil

Behind a 3rd string LT, a backup center and guard FOUND A WAY!! Doesn't have to be pretty but he found a way


Title: Re: Game Balls - Rams
Post by: Fau Teixeira on November 20, 2016, 07:41:50 pm
Tanehill for sure


Title: Re: Game Balls - Rams
Post by: disappointedyearly on November 20, 2016, 07:44:26 pm
Tannehill, but I have to say Parker came really close to getting it. He also almost made a bonehead play at the end of the game when he didn't make that interception and could have knocked it into the air.


Title: Re: Game Balls - Rams
Post by: Dave Gray on November 20, 2016, 07:49:29 pm
Parker.  Big catches.


Title: Re: Game Balls - Rams
Post by: Dolfanalyst on November 20, 2016, 07:56:54 pm
Tannehill.

That sort of play is the opposite of garbage time stats-padding.

He took the team from being a mere 4% likely to win, to being 98% likely to win (prior to the Rams' final drive).

That's what teams need from QBs in this league if they're going to be highly competitive, and that's what the Dolphins' got today.

His overall game was better last week, but he put the team on his shoulders in the clutch and won a game this week.


Title: Re: Game Balls - Rams
Post by: Spider-Dan on November 20, 2016, 07:58:52 pm
I don't think anyone deserves it more than Tannehill.

Parker is going to get a talking to for that final play.  He did knock that ball into the air (which is incredibly bizarre FOR A WIDE RECEIVER) and he's lucky a Ram wasn't near him.  Imagine if that was MIA's hail mary, Parker somehow got that open, and he booted the ball like that.


Title: Re: Game Balls - Rams
Post by: Dolfanalyst on November 20, 2016, 08:05:34 pm
Tannehil

Behind a 3rd string LT, a backup center and guard FOUND A WAY!! Doesn't have to be pretty but he found a way

And notice that after the line came together like that and pushed Landry into the end zone, they seemed to play better.  I think that had a galvanizing effect.


Title: Re: Game Balls - Rams
Post by: Tenshot13 on November 20, 2016, 08:21:52 pm
THill


Title: Re: Game Balls - Rams
Post by: Dolfanalyst on November 20, 2016, 09:43:43 pm
Over the last two drives of the game, Tannehill was 12 for 13 for 122 yards and 2 TDs.

YPA was 9.4.  QB rating was 145.3.


Title: Re: Game Balls - Rams
Post by: DZA on November 21, 2016, 01:48:37 am
Ryan Tannehill for the late rally. Way to go kid.


Title: Re: Game Balls - Rams
Post by: fyo on November 21, 2016, 05:49:36 am
What an amazing team effort there at the end. Really hard to single anyone out, though of course the quarterback is easy to single out. I can't help but think that if Parker had dropped one of those passes, Tannehill would have been the goat and everyone would have been screaming that he sucks. And, let's face it, those receptions by Parker were NOT easy, particularly the low one that he just grabbed half an inch off the turf.

The scrum into the endzone play, can I just give it to the offensive line for that one play? Or Tannehill and Parker for the fourth quarter?

If I have to chose, I'm going to say Parker, but really it's a toss-up.

Tannehill had a couple of bad throws earlier, but the interception wasn't one them. It was a risky throw, but for an offensive that was stalled, I loved the call. Too bad Parker lost it in the air and stopped two yards short and let the defender get it. Wouldn't necessarily have been an easy catch, but Parker had position on the safety and could have easily taken his route longer. Either he was slow locating the ball or he just misread it. The bad Tannehill passes were the two or three that SHOULD have been intercepted.


Title: Re: Game Balls - Rams
Post by: Dolfanalyst on November 21, 2016, 06:56:57 am
What an amazing team effort there at the end. Really hard to single anyone out, though of course the quarterback is easy to single out. I can't help but think that if Parker had dropped one of those passes, Tannehill would have been the goat and everyone would have been screaming that he sucks. And, let's face it, those receptions by Parker were NOT easy, particularly the low one that he just grabbed half an inch off the turf.

Given that drops by receivers are not rare occurrences in the league, if your game is riding on one that does occur, then whoever was responsible for putting the team in that position certainly deserves a helping of blame (in addition to the receiver) if the game ends in a loss.

Again, we have this distinction between nail-biter wins and convincing wins, and the Dolphins have yet to have one of the latter, other than perhaps the Pittsburgh game.  Some parts of the team (and it can be different parts each week) must be responsible for the fact that these wins are nail-biters and not convincing.  They aren't just happening on their own.


Title: Re: Game Balls - Rams
Post by: hordman on November 21, 2016, 07:34:11 am
Split between Tannehill and Parker.  Tannehill for coming alive at the end of the 4th and for Parker for making some really big catches, for 1st downs and in tight spaces.


Title: Re: Game Balls - Rams
Post by: fyo on November 21, 2016, 07:44:32 am
Given that drops by receivers are not rare occurrences in the league, if your game is riding on one that does occur, then whoever was responsible for putting the team in that position certainly deserves a helping of blame (in addition to the receiver) if the game ends in a loss.

I disagree with the highlighted part. If winning the game is dependent on the outcome of a 50-50 play (and I doubt Parker catches that ball even half the time), you can't suddenly hold everyone blameless just because you got lucky. People make stupid decisions that pay off big time all the time, but that doesn't make the decisions any less stupid.


Title: Re: Game Balls - Rams
Post by: Dolfanalyst on November 21, 2016, 08:54:20 am
I disagree with the highlighted part. If winning the game is dependent on the outcome of a 50-50 play (and I doubt Parker catches that ball even half the time), you can't suddenly hold everyone blameless just because you got lucky. People make stupid decisions that pay off big time all the time, but that doesn't make the decisions any less stupid.

There's a difference between attributing responsibility for a nail-biter win, and attributing responsibility for a loss.

Tannehill was partly (if not primarily) responsible for the character of the win (i.e., a nail-biter), but obviously he's not responsible for a loss.

If Tannehill would've played all day the way he played during the final two drives, with all other things equal, obviously the game would've hardly been a nail-biter.  What we could do then is attribute responsibility to Tannehill for a convincing win.

And he's done that before in his career.  It just didn't happen yesterday.


Title: Re: Game Balls - Rams
Post by: CF DolFan on November 21, 2016, 09:17:08 am
Tannehill. The fact he ruined the chubby some of you had when we were losing makes it even better.  That in itself makes it ok for me to watch 3 quarters of horrible offense.

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Title: Re: Game Balls - Rams
Post by: Tenshot13 on November 21, 2016, 09:35:26 am
Tannehill. The fact he ruined the chubby some of you had when we were losing makes it even better.  That in itself makes it ok for me to watch 3 quarters of horrible offense.

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Title: Re: Game Balls - Rams
Post by: Run Ricky Run on November 21, 2016, 09:40:46 am
I'll give it to Alonso. Another turnover this week. And they did "hold" the offense to 10 points but the rams do a good job already of holding themselves to no poibts.

Can't give it to tannehill the way he played the first 56 minutes.


Title: Re: Game Balls - Rams
Post by: Dolfanalyst on November 21, 2016, 09:43:03 am
I'll give it to Alonso. Another turnover this week. And they did "hold" the offense to 10 points but the rams do a good job already of holding themselves to no poibts.

Can't give it to tannehill the way he played the first 56 minutes.

And I understand what you mean there, certainly, but when you situate that game in the context of where the team is this year and where Tannehill is in his career, I think you have to celebrate that Tannehill produced that kind of win by playing the way he did on the final two drives.

I think it represents possibly a big developmental step forward for Tannehill and the team, when you consider the much bigger picture.


Title: Re: Game Balls - Rams
Post by: Dave Gray on November 21, 2016, 10:06:54 am
While I didn't give my game ball to Tannehill, I really did like the fire that he showed when they scored that 2nd TD.  He really led the team and I think that it's a step forward in terms of a leadership role.


Title: Re: Game Balls - Rams
Post by: Run Ricky Run on November 21, 2016, 10:08:48 am
While I didn't give my game ball to Tannehill, I really did like the fire that he showed when they scored that 2nd TD.  He really led the team and I think that it's a step forward in terms of a leadership role.

He actually showed some fire on the first to too.


Title: Re: Game Balls - Rams
Post by: CF DolFan on November 21, 2016, 10:19:31 am
While I didn't give my game ball to Tannehill, I really did like the fire that he showed when they scored that 2nd TD.  He really led the team and I think that it's a step forward in terms of a leadership role.
He's never going to be outwardly vocal like Marino or Brady but I do think he can be moreso than Flacco. 


Title: Re: Game Balls - Rams
Post by: fyo on November 21, 2016, 11:53:34 am
While I didn't give my game ball to Tannehill, I really did like the fire that he showed when they scored that 2nd TD.  He really led the team and I think that it's a step forward in terms of a leadership role.

I think the biggest takeaway from this game is that the team doesn't quit, even after three and a half quarters of absolute rubbish play. I read one of the local media guys writing that Landry could barely stand at the press session after the game. Last week, Parker basically couldn't walk. These guys give every ounce of strength they have, leave it all on the field, to serve up a nice cliché.