Title: Edited: Live Draft Talk Post by: CF DolFan on April 26, 2018, 04:29:31 pm I don't mean a no-name but someone like Josh Rosen ... Lamar Jackson etc. Who would upset you as much as the Ted Ginn pick?
Title: Re: Which player would upset you if he was taken in round 1? Post by: Dolphster on April 26, 2018, 04:34:02 pm Please please please don't pick Baker Mayfield if he happens to fall to #11. We don't need Manziel 2.0
Title: Re: Which player would upset you if he was taken in round 1? Post by: Phishfan on April 26, 2018, 04:41:19 pm You already said Jackson. He is the one of the QB prospects I see being there at 11.
Title: Re: Which player would upset you if he was taken in round 1? Post by: DaLittle B on April 26, 2018, 05:11:18 pm 1.) Trading UP for any of the QB's would make most mad.....
1.a) Disappointed with DT -Vea at 11.... 1.b) Not wild about a Safety in Rd 1- It's more about the position than more than the player,or dumb ass front office extended both saftey's last year >:( I think Dolphster has to liking the Baker Mayfield Number 1 over all to Cleveland rumors fast and furious this morning... :D Title: Re: Which player would upset you if he was taken in round 1? Post by: EDGECRUSHER on April 26, 2018, 07:46:14 pm I don't want any QB and I don't want any reach, but the thing that would upset me the most wouldn't be a player but hearing after the draft that a team offered us 2 1st rounders and a 2nd rounder to move down a few spots and we didn't take it.
Title: Re: Which player would upset you if he was taken in round 1? Post by: DaLittle B on April 26, 2018, 08:18:19 pm Baker Mayfield Number 1 overall..the rumors were true...
Mayfield to Landry.... Title: Re: Which player would upset you if he was taken in round 1? Post by: Dolphster on April 26, 2018, 08:22:15 pm 1.) Trading UP for any of the QB's would make most mad..... 1.a) Disappointed with DT -Vea at 11.... 1.b) Not wild about a Safety in Rd 1- It's more about the position than more than the player,or dumb ass front office extended both saftey's last year >:( I think Dolphster has to liking the Baker Mayfield Number 1 over all to Cleveland rumors fast and furious this morning... :D True dat, Little B. Browns made it easy for me not to have to worry about it. Title: Re: Which player would upset you if he was taken in round 1? Post by: EDGECRUSHER on April 26, 2018, 08:43:49 pm Mayfield and Darnold off the board and the Browns kept their #4 pick. If the Broncos pick a QB too then the next few teams before Buffalo won't go QB either and can be trade up candidates. If a QB falls to us, blackmail the Bills for him.
Title: Re: Which player would upset you if he was taken in round 1? Post by: bsmooth on April 26, 2018, 08:54:34 pm QB still there. I hope we say no.
Title: Re: Which player would upset you if he was taken in round 1? Post by: BeanCounter on April 26, 2018, 08:55:35 pm Bills just traded up to 7 and took Josh Allen.
Title: Re: Which player would upset you if he was taken in round 1? Post by: Dolphster on April 26, 2018, 09:10:38 pm So hopefully the Cardinals take Rosen, leaving Edmunds to be the answer to the Dolphins prayers for an absolute STUD OLB.
Title: Re: Which player would upset you if he was taken in round 1? Post by: BeanCounter on April 26, 2018, 09:13:49 pm Cardinals just traded up to 10 and picked Josh Rosen.
Title: Re: Which player would upset you if he was taken in round 1? Post by: bsmooth on April 26, 2018, 09:15:34 pm Come on Edmunds
Title: Re: Which player would upset you if he was taken in round 1? Post by: bsmooth on April 26, 2018, 09:16:25 pm Tannenbaum will trade it to NE.
Title: Re: Which player would upset you if he was taken in round 1? Post by: BeanCounter on April 26, 2018, 09:20:10 pm Minkah Fitzpatrick is the pick.
Title: Re: Which player would upset you if he was taken in round 1? Post by: Pappy13 on April 26, 2018, 09:22:02 pm I wanted a LB, but I didn't expect Fitzpatrick to be there. He's solid. Can't complain about that pick.
Title: Re: Which player would upset you if he was taken in round 1? Post by: Dolphster on April 26, 2018, 09:23:29 pm Jesus F'ing Christ. Whoever picks Edmunds will enjoy at least 10 years of an All Pro Linebacker while the Fins just chose a freaking safety in the 1st round. After signing our other two safeties to nice big contracts. I assume they will move McDonald to LB where he will be undersized and unable to defend against the run. And the idiocy of this abortion of an organization goes on.
Title: Re: Which player would upset you if he was taken in round 1? Post by: DaLittle B on April 26, 2018, 09:28:35 pm ^My initial feelings...
now.... :-\ :| ... I guess I shouldn't be surprised...this team has made me cry for so many years... ;D Back to the Cubs game...(they have been disappointing this year too! :D ) Title: Re: Which player would upset you if he was taken in round 1? Post by: EDGECRUSHER on April 26, 2018, 09:40:11 pm This kid is incredibly talented and a huge character guy with great football IQ. This is the type of guy we need at many different spots. This is not a luxury, this is the best talent at the draft slot (perhaps Edmunds was better) so I am cool with it. We aren't doing shit this year, stock up on talent now, not necessarily immediate need.
Title: Re: Which player would upset you if he was taken in round 1? Post by: DaLittle B on April 26, 2018, 09:49:42 pm Tremaine Edmunds to the Bills? of course... ::)
Title: Re: Which player would upset you if he was taken in round 1? Post by: Dolphster on April 26, 2018, 10:02:43 pm This kid is incredibly talented and a huge character guy with great football IQ. This is the type of guy we need at many different spots. This is not a luxury, this is the best talent at the draft slot (perhaps Edmunds was better) so I am cool with it. We aren't doing shit this year, stock up on talent now, not necessarily immediate need. Sounds like we drafted the whole Fitzpatrick family. ;D Title: Re: Which player would upset you if he was taken in round 1? Post by: Dolphster on April 26, 2018, 10:04:01 pm Tremaine Edmunds to the Bills? of course... ::) This year Gronkowski will average 8 receptions for 120 yards and 2 touchdowns against the Dolphins per game and against the Bills he will average 2 receptions for 15 yards and 0 touchdowns. Title: Re: Which player would upset you if he was taken in round 1? Post by: EDGECRUSHER on April 26, 2018, 10:04:10 pm Either the Bills GM is very good or he only trades with really stupid GMs because he has given up NOTHING with the Cincy GM, the Bucs GM and now the Ravens GM. I mean, embarrassing trades for the other team. That's what bothers me more than anything, why can't our stupid GM find other stupid GMs to take our shit? The Browns got the better of us with Landry. The Browns!
Title: Re: Which player would upset you if he was taken in round 1? Post by: CF DolFan on April 26, 2018, 10:09:25 pm I’m very OK with this pick. Didn’t expect him to still be there so it’s a pleasant surprise. Will be an immediate addition to our defensive backfield and with all the QBs in our division we will need it. Hate seeing Buffalos picks tonight. They are having a great draft.
Title: Re: Which player would upset you if he was taken in round 1? Post by: CF DolFan on April 26, 2018, 10:13:14 pm This year Gronkowski will average 8 receptions for 120 yards and 2 touchdowns against the Dolphins per game and against the Bills he will average 2 receptions for 15 yards and 0 touchdowns. I don’t think it’s going to be bad. Title: Re: Edited: Live Draft Talk Post by: CF DolFan on April 26, 2018, 10:31:14 pm Stroke had Fitzpatrick as a great pick so I’m guessing he will be happy too. I think he’ll move to free safety and McDonald will move up to LB but it wouldn’t surprise me if Fitz plays nickel and hybrid LB
Title: Re: Edited: Live Draft Talk Post by: Dolphster on April 27, 2018, 12:01:01 am Stroke is very knowledgeable, but I respectfully disagree about the Fins taking Minka. The accolades for Minka are mostly that he does a lot of things very well. Doing a lot of things very well is an excellent description that you want to put on a player you select in the 3rd and 4th round. But if you are holding the 11th overall pick in the draft, you better be picking a guy who does GREAT things at a position of desperate need. The vast majority of knowledgeable people considered OLB to be the glaringly largest need on this team. And what many people think was the best OLB in the draft was sitting right there for you. But instead they taking a guy at a far less impactful position (safety) and his best qualities are versatility in that he play Safety really good and is okay at Cornerback. Awesome. 1th overall pick is spent on a utility infielder who can play both 2nd base and shortstop. I have no doubt the guy will be a solid Safety for this team. Too bad that a solid player at a position that already has 2 starters (though I will grant you both are actually strong safeties rather than either of them being a free safety) is not at all what they needed to do in the 1st round.
Title: Re: Edited: Live Draft Talk Post by: BuccaneerBrad on April 27, 2018, 12:11:39 am Vita Vea to the Bucs in a huge move that leaves them with three second round picks tomorrow!!! That Bucs DL is gonna be fukkin nasty next year!!!
Title: Re: Edited: Live Draft Talk Post by: Sunstroke on April 27, 2018, 08:54:13 am Jesus F'ing Christ. Whoever picks Edmunds will enjoy at least 10 years of an All Pro Linebacker while the Fins just chose a freaking safety in the 1st round. First...did you actually let the Dolphins organization know that Edmunds was guaranteed to be a 10-year pro bowler? If not, what a waste of that clairvoyant gift! ;) Second...Minkah Fitzpatrick is a straight-up monster out on the field. Insanely athletic, and arguably the smartest DB that I've ever seen interviewed. Oh yeah, and he's a fucking choirboy off the field. You may be shaking your head at this pick right now, but by the end of this season, Fitzpatrick will be one of your favorite players. Title: Re: Edited: Live Draft Talk Post by: Tenshot13 on April 27, 2018, 09:38:19 am People are set on a player and when someone else is drafted who is arguably better, you flip your shit? Lol. Fitzpatrick is a beast. I'm not worried about McDonald being undersized as a linebacker, he was already a linebacker playing safety. 6'2" 225 last year
Title: Re: Edited: Live Draft Talk Post by: DaLittle B on April 27, 2018, 09:55:19 am IMO,I think you guy's are giving our front office,and coaching staff...FAR TOO much credit...They can turn McDonald into a LB? They can figure out how to successfully utilize all three Safety's,as they are all essentially the same (in the box safeties,which adds to my frustration with this pick). :-\
If the Smith,and Edwards were off the board when we picked,fine....I wouldn't be near as frustrated with the pick.. DB's Imo, are alot like relief pitchers...It's generally a year to year thing (DB's in terms of play making (INT's,and forcing fumbles)...Great ones tend to suddenly fall off a cliff... IMO they failed in taking an ILB and making him successful as an OLB (Alonzo),and couldn't get 3 other OLB's to play well (Timmons,Anthony,Malaluga). I'll believe it when I see it,our defense keeps getting sold to us,as this Should be a top defense,now that we've added this guy,or that guy......This defense should be scary..We never live up to the hype...I call Bullshit... Title: Re: Edited: Live Draft Talk Post by: Sunstroke on April 27, 2018, 10:50:27 am I gotta be honest with ya, B...I disagree with almost everything in that post, aside from the fans giving the front office too much credit. Minkah really is nothing like the other safeties Miami has. Good defensive backs tend to have long careers. Look at all the excellent DBs who are 7-8 years into their career and still playing at pro bowl levels. Safety, in particular, has gotten more and more important over the past decade or so, and if you can get a player who has all-pro potential at that position, you say "yes, please" and "thank you very much!" Title: Re: Edited: Live Draft Talk Post by: DaLittle B on April 27, 2018, 11:01:39 am It's chasing draft picks to cover bad free agents/and contracts...Yeah he's a great pick if we're going to play the 46 ,or a 52 defense....
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/minkah-fitzpatrick?id=32462018-0002-5599-4469-725ea4e0930c (https://www.nfl.com/prospects/minkah-fitzpatrick?id=32462018-0002-5599-4469-725ea4e0930c) Sure reads a lot like the 2 guy's we have looking in the backfield,trying to make the big play....While the ball is thrown over their head,running up to make a play,and failing to see the play behind them....Again...I'll believe it 3 years down the road...Till then...It's just a bad move... Our Lb's are horrible...Kiko,err Former Dolphin J.Seau reincarnated,Mcmillian...Total unknown,because of injury,could be Kiko all over (bad performance,injury possibility)...and Anthony? The guy who couldn't make it in New Orleans? Undrafted scrubs? (We got lucky Timmons left wk 1 or we'd been stuck with another failed bad free agent) Modified to add...I know Taking Edmunds,was a risk too,he could have flopped,and he's chasing picks after bad signings too.For me,He would have at least been a pick towards filling a big hole,and not muddy the team issues farther... I don't like the pick....at all IMO just another Front office fuck up.. Title: Re: Edited: Live Draft Talk Post by: Sunstroke on April 27, 2018, 11:07:33 am I liked Tremaine a lot as well, and would've been perfectly happy to see him on either SF or Miami. That said, I had Minkah rated as the #4 overall prospect in this class, and Tremaine was #8. On the surprise front...Tremaine's brother, Terrell, also went in round one, and I had him pegged for a mid-late 3rd rounder, so what the hell do I know? ;-) Title: Re: Edited: Live Draft Talk Post by: DaLittle B on April 27, 2018, 11:20:13 am ^^^ It's fine ;D.It's not that I don't believe you,I respect your opinion on guys a lot.....I was just...meh...on the idea of him,then drafting him.Seeing Edmunds to Buffalo, pissed me off thoroughly.I don't think there is anything anyone can,say,or show me to make me like the pick.My lack of belief in our front office,puts a huge black mark on him,because I've heard all the hype,and B.S. before about how great this move is...
Title: Re: Edited: Live Draft Talk Post by: Dolphster on April 27, 2018, 11:37:07 am First...did you actually let the Dolphins organization know that Edmunds was guaranteed to be a 10-year pro bowler? If not, what a waste of that clairvoyant gift! ;) Second...Minkah Fitzpatrick is a straight-up monster out on the field. Insanely athletic, and arguably the smartest DB that I've ever seen interviewed. Oh yeah, and he's a fucking choirboy off the field. You may be shaking your head at this pick right now, but by the end of this season, Fitzpatrick will be one of your favorite players. lol, you are probably right. My getting behind someone 100% usually guarantees that they will be an enormous bust. And don't get me wrong, if Minka ends up being a game changing talent and makes the team markedly better, then I will be more than happy to eat crow. I've been wrong plenty of times in the past and I'm sure I will be wrong plenty of times in the future. PS, that would be an awesome name for a girl. Claire Voyant. Title: Re: Edited: Live Draft Talk Post by: Dolphster on April 27, 2018, 11:39:02 am People are set on a player and when someone else is drafted who is arguably better, you flip your shit? Lol. Fitzpatrick is a beast. I'm not worried about McDonald being undersized as a linebacker, he was already a linebacker playing safety. 6'2" 225 last year My comments were more of me being an old man having a tantrum because he didn't get the player he wanted. But I feel ya and point well taken. :) Title: Re: Edited: Live Draft Talk Post by: masterfins on April 27, 2018, 12:51:29 pm I was satisfied with the Dolphins pick, I think they got a guy that will be a long term stud player. Of course I'm of the belief that McMillan will come back 100% from his injury and be a force at LB. McMillan's a gamer, he graduated H.S. a semester early just so he could join OSU for spring football workouts. That's dedication.
Title: Re: Edited: Live Draft Talk Post by: CF DolFan on April 27, 2018, 04:04:09 pm Fitzpatrick can play free safety. We don't have anyone else who can. We tried to turn McDonald into one and it didn't work. He can also cover tight ends on passing downs. He is a defensive coordinator on the field and a leader in the locker room and off the field. Remember in the National Championship game when he pulled the QB aside to talk with him while they were down to Georgia? Fitzpatrick closes on the ball like he’s Troy Polamalu. He is the closest thing to a sure thing we have drafted in recent memory. He played three years at Alabama and started as a freshman. Nick Saban said he is the best player he has ever coached. Even if you don't like Nick you have to know that is really saying something.
I wrote him off weeks ago because I never in my wildest dreams saw him falling to 11. I was stoked when we took him to say the least. Title: Re: Edited: Live Draft Talk Post by: Phishfan on April 27, 2018, 07:35:44 pm Excellent pick is all I will say.
Title: Re: Edited: Live Draft Talk Post by: BeanCounter on April 27, 2018, 07:52:02 pm Dolphins just selected TE Mike Gesicki with the 42nd pick. NE just traded the 43rd pick to the Lions.
Title: Re: Edited: Live Draft Talk Post by: CF DolFan on April 27, 2018, 08:13:47 pm Having a great draft so far!!
Title: Re: Edited: Live Draft Talk Post by: EDGECRUSHER on April 27, 2018, 08:16:42 pm Reports on the TE seem pretty positive. He as a position of need and was not a reach either. They say he struggles with blocking so I sure hope he can make up for it with everything else.
Still need a LB badly but if by the time we pick next it would be a massive reach, trade down or just take the best guy available. Title: Re: Edited: Live Draft Talk Post by: BeanCounter on April 27, 2018, 09:43:52 pm The Dolphins just selected Jerome Baker, LB from Ohio State.
Title: Re: Edited: Live Draft Talk Post by: EDGECRUSHER on April 27, 2018, 09:50:53 pm Scouting says he is very athletic and speedy but not a bug guy. So, he can do well against tight ends but won't be great against the run, for no at least.
For a 3rd rounder, looks to be a good pick. He'll join his teammate on the line, our first rounder from last year. Hopefully, that familiarity will help out. Title: Re: Edited: Live Draft Talk Post by: BeanCounter on April 27, 2018, 09:51:04 pm Mason Rudolph was just selected by the Steelers.
Title: Re: Edited: Live Draft Talk Post by: DaLittle B on April 27, 2018, 09:58:18 pm Like the TE,and the possibilities of him...Don't like the LB...
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/jerome-baker?id=32462018-0002-5601-29d4-3b922ef6c9a1 (https://www.nfl.com/prospects/jerome-baker?id=32462018-0002-5601-29d4-3b922ef6c9a1) Title: Re: Edited: Live Draft Talk Post by: Pappy13 on April 27, 2018, 10:33:46 pm Somebody needs a hug.
Title: Re: Which player would upset you if he was taken in round 1? Post by: Pappy13 on April 29, 2018, 08:40:41 am Jesus F'ing Christ. Whoever picks Edmunds will enjoy at least 10 years of an All Pro Linebacker while the Fins just chose a freaking safety in the 1st round. After signing our other two safeties to nice big contracts. I assume they will move McDonald to LB where he will be undersized and unable to defend against the run. And the idiocy of this abortion of an organization goes on. Maybe you should watch this. I don't think he's the lock you think he is. I really didn't want Edmunds for Miami, I wanted Roquan Smith and since he wasn't there, I was fine with the Minka pick.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oTjfbxn3Ng Title: Re: Which player would upset you if he was taken in round 1? Post by: CF DolFan on April 29, 2018, 10:33:50 am Maybe you should watch this. I don't think he's the lock you think he is. I really didn't want Edmunds for Miami, I wanted Roquan Smith and since he wasn't there, I was fine with the Minka pick. Seems like people are talking about him in the same way they were Dion Jordon when he was drafted. Athletic freak who needed to develop. That's the type of players we typically draft and they almost never "develop" into anything. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oTjfbxn3Ng Title: Re: Edited: Live Draft Talk Post by: Fau Teixeira on April 29, 2018, 11:07:09 am I'm very happy with this draft the picks look solid .. at positions of need. this is the type of consistency you need year after year in order to load up your talent. You then augment through free agency .. you don't build through free agency. This isn't the NBA.
Title: Re: Edited: Live Draft Talk Post by: DaLittle B on April 29, 2018, 01:48:53 pm Rd 1...Don't like.. :P
Like the Te's,and I've started lighting candles,and will give weekly sacrifices to honor the great football gods,both start,and make huge impacts this season... I'm intrigued by the RB. Don't like the LB's,really worry about the wear down factor of small fast Linebackers...Ask Atlanta in the Superbowl,how those small fast linebackers wore down... Title: Re: Edited: Live Draft Talk Post by: CF DolFan on April 29, 2018, 02:02:56 pm Can't remember who said it ... but they pointed out that most of our picks revolved around the TE position. Some were to secure it and others to protect against them. We now have at least three guys who can (or should be able to) cover Gronk. This should bring opposing teams third down conversions way down.
Title: Re: Edited: Live Draft Talk Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on April 29, 2018, 02:20:20 pm Can't remember who said it ... but they pointed out that most of our picks revolved around the TE position. Some were to secure it and others to protect against them. We now have at least three guys who can (or should be able to) cover Gronk. This should bring opposing teams third down conversions way down. Every team has three guys who can cover Gronk. Key is to have one guy who can cover him by himself and you only need one guy like that. Title: Re: Edited: Live Draft Talk Post by: CF DolFan on April 29, 2018, 02:24:40 pm That's exactly what I was implying. ^^^^
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