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Title: Good breakdown of sack that could've been TD.
Post by: Dave Gray on November 30, 2018, 11:47:28 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=09oFAWWZDE8

Credit to DolphinsTalk.  Really love these videos.


Title: Re: Good breakdown of sack that could've been TD.
Post by: CF DolFan on November 30, 2018, 11:57:02 am
Critics are going to say he should have thrown him open. I believe now ... just as the last 6 years or so ... that our oline sucks. It's not just a coincidence that when they play well our run game is on and Kenny's TDs go up.


Title: Re: Good breakdown of sack that could've been TD.
Post by: Brian Fein on December 03, 2018, 04:53:13 pm
The o-line was suspect at the beginning of the season.  Now, with what seems like all of them in and out of the lineup with injuries, the guys starting on Sunday are practice squad quality players.

We need to spend some money on big o-line free agents and keep them on the field.


Title: Re: Good breakdown of sack that could've been TD.
Post by: fyo on December 04, 2018, 04:40:24 am
We need to spend some money on big o-line free agents and keep them on the field.

Having the ONE big free agent acquisition get injured hasn't helped. Replacing him with worst-in-the-NFL (according to PFF) Ted Larsen just adds salt to the wound.

We need better backups along with at least one solid addition (I'm assuming Sitton plays next year). Maybe someone to push James as well. He seems very hot-n-cold.


Title: Re: Good breakdown of sack that could've been TD.
Post by: CF DolFan on December 04, 2018, 08:54:23 am
Having the ONE big free agent acquisition get injured hasn't helped. Replacing him with worst-in-the-NFL (according to PFF) Ted Larsen just adds salt to the wound.

We need better backups along with at least one solid addition (I'm assuming Sitton plays next year). Maybe someone to push James as well. He seems very hot-n-cold.
We need our free agents to not be old guys. There is a reason their teams are letting them go.


Title: Re: Good breakdown of sack that could've been TD.
Post by: fyo on December 04, 2018, 05:58:52 pm
We need our free agents to not be old guys. There is a reason their teams are letting them go.

I agree, but if for whatever reason you don't get someone in the draft, then it can make sense to get a solid solution for a few years.


Title: Re: Good breakdown of sack that could've been TD.
Post by: masterfins on December 05, 2018, 12:09:16 pm
We need our free agents to not be old guys. There is a reason their teams are letting them go.

Not to disagree with you, but what's old?  Draftees come in and are basically tied to a team for five years based on the rookie contacts.  If they are good, then the team that drafted them are going to re-sign them, unless the player wants some huge salary that the team can't accommodate due to their cap situation (think Suh).  The guys that are available in FA are usually not that great, or completing their second contract and are "old (29 or 30).  So, the options are to sign a young player that's not that great, or sign an older player that is experienced and has shown a prior history of being a pretty good player.    Sure there is the occasionally great player traded (Khalil Mack), but that is an abnormality.  There are plenty of teams in the NFL that need O-lineman, so it's not a matter of opening up the wallet.

What Miami, or any team, can do is to:

1) Draft better.
2) Coach better.
3) Condition players better.  With all the injuries that are occurring it just seems to me that better conditioning would help reduce the number of injuries.


Title: Re: Good breakdown of sack that could've been TD.
Post by: Pappy13 on December 05, 2018, 12:14:51 pm
Not to disagree with you, but what's old?  Draftees come in and are basically tied to a team for five years based on the rookie contacts.  If they are good, then the team that drafted them are going to re-sign them, unless the player wants some huge salary that the team can't accommodate due to their cap situation (think Suh).  The guys that are available in FA are usually not that great, or completing their second contract and are "old (29 or 30).  So, the options are to sign a young player that's not that great, or sign an older player that is experienced and has shown a prior history of being a pretty good player.    Sure there is the occasionally great player traded (Khalil Mack), but that is an abnormality.  There are plenty of teams in the NFL that need O-lineman, so it's not a matter of opening up the wallet.

What Miami, or any team, can do is to:

1) Draft better.
2) Coach better.
3) Condition players better.  With all the injuries that are occurring it just seems to me that better conditioning would help reduce the number of injuries.
I believe there was already an in depth look at the Dolphins injuries and comparing it to the rest of the league and they are not really any worse then some other teams. Now I'm not saying that health is not a concern for Miami, it certainly is but it's more because of the roster being thin to begin with rather than a conditioning issue. The Dolphins are as well conditioned as any team, but they falter with the next man up philosophy because their backups are just not up to the challenge.
TLDR: It might be a coaching or drafting issue, but it's not a conditioning issue.


Title: Re: Good breakdown of sack that could've been TD.
Post by: CF DolFan on December 05, 2018, 12:29:40 pm
Not to disagree with you, but what's old?  Draftees come in and are basically tied to a team for five years based on the rookie contacts.  If they are good, then the team that drafted them are going to re-sign them, unless the player wants some huge salary that the team can't accommodate due to their cap situation (think Suh).  The guys that are available in FA are usually not that great, or completing their second contract and are "old (29 or 30).  So, the options are to sign a young player that's not that great, or sign an older player that is experienced and has shown a prior history of being a pretty good player.    Sure there is the occasionally great player traded (Khalil Mack), but that is an abnormality.  There are plenty of teams in the NFL that need O-lineman, so it's not a matter of opening up the wallet.

What Miami, or any team, can do is to:

1) Draft better.
2) Coach better.
3) Condition players better.  With all the injuries that are occurring it just seems to me that better conditioning would help reduce the number of injuries.
Depending on the position age is different. You don't bring in O-linemen and hinge your season to 30 and 32 year old linemen. Those guys should be insurance.