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From another thread:

Allow me to retort:

https://www.nflshop.com/miami-dolphins/vintage-clothing/t-36151427+c-90841058+z-998-103385565

You guys can buy all the throwback gear you want, right now!

Dolphins' management has achieved exactly the intended outcome: they can sell new uniform gear to the people who like the new logo/colors, and sell throwback gear to those who don't.  Why should they eliminate one set of gear sales?

In conclusion, I give you the gold standard of this strategy, who will also never make the change back (for exactly the same reasons):

(https://fanatics.frgimages.com/FFImage/thumb.aspx?i=/productimages/_1160000/ff_1160156_xl.jpg&w=340)

I'd just like to add one opinion from the viewpoint (from 2016) of a Patriots fan asked to choose between Pat Patriot and the Flying Elvis:

Like the confederate flag and the swastika, flying elvis can be shown within peoples' homes, but belongs nowhere near the team's helmets on the field. They've won four Super Bowls dressed like morons; real Patriots fans want to see their actual team on the field win one-for the first time-they need to simply wear the 2012 "throwbacks" permanently, for every game. Krafts can do what they want off the field, but on it 99% of fans want to be able to turn on the TV and say "Why, I know them...That's the New England Patriots; I've rooted for them since the sixties, I'm proud they represent us!!" Instead of today, when they say, "Who the hell is that? I don't know, some ugly team from Birmingham or Memphis or something...their team, especially the quarterback, are playing great but their logo and uniforms sure are God-awful..."

I mention this to make the point that people are resistant to change, even when the original is terrible and clownish.  Now, I don't think the original Dolphins logo is as bad as Pat Patriot - nothing could be that bad.  But here you have an example of a team that went from a buffoonish logo to a reasonable one, and immediately went from the laughingstock of the league to a powerhouse... and people STILL pine for the old uniforms of the garbage era!

The closest possible analog would be Buccaneers fans clamoring to return to the days of the Bucco Bruce creamsicles... but if TB had won four more SBs with the Jolly Roger.

I prefer the old logo over new.  (both NE and Mia) but Spider has it right from a marketing standpoint.  Kraft is making coin selling both logos and you see both everywhere.  I personally don’t know anyone who would compare either logo to the confederate flag.  From a financial standpoint there is no advantage of having just one logo.  Has anybody not attended a game or watched it on TV because they disapproved of the uniform?

No but years later I still get picked on about it. Let's face it ... its not a very masculine color scheme or logo. It's embarrassing and according from what some of the players are saying it seems like they feel the same. 

“Only a man that is truly comfortable in his own masculinity can wear pink.”  Same can be said for the Dolphin’s pastels.

 ^^^^  :D LOL ... there is some truth to that. I actually think pink is a better look. Some soccer teams wear pink.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__cLfPbhhwmw/S9NMTOCum-I/AAAAAAAACP8/E0NCk7O-Yyw/s1600/00+palermo_calcio.jpg)

(http://i.snag.gy/0M5ED.jpg)

The whole philosophy is flawed though by saying one has to be ugly. You can have two different sets of uniforms that look good. People loved the navy they had years back. I don't think it ever made it onto the field but fans bought a ton. As well, the orange jersey sold a ton as well.

Hahaha, that's rich. Now I've heard it all. No offense to anyone who wears pink. However, grown ass men who wear pink look down right silly. Unless of course it's Easter or Halloween, LMFAO......

Breaking news ... Crowder and Hochman just announced on the radio that after a huge response on twitter to Tom Garfinkel that he has requested to wear the throwbacks again this weekend with retro end zone and the NFL has granted permission. Saweet! 

At least one positive going into this game.

Thanks dude.  I have some pink shirts that I wear.

Ultimately, I just don't see how the difference between this:

(https://fanatics.frgimages.com/FFImage/thumb.aspx?i=/productimages/_3225000/ff_3225028_full.jpg&w=340)

and this:

(https://fanatics.frgimages.com/FFImage/thumb.aspx?i=/productimages/_2143000/ff_2143943_xl.jpg&w=340)

...is enough to call the new uniforms hideous and insulting.

As I've said before, I've love it if the new uniforms went to the same shade of aqua as the throwbacks.  But the idea that we, as fans, are embarrassed more by the "cartoon whale" than the previous "cartoon whale wearing a football helmet" is silly.  I'll happily take the new aqua if it means we don't have to go back to the old logo.

In my defense, I did say "no offense", bwahahaha. Just my opinion on men wearing pink. If it makes you feel better though, I find many things distasteful. Wearing camouflage in public. It may be ok to wear up to the gas station for another six pack, but you wouldn't believe how many people I see going out to eat, shopping, and/or basically living in camo. Another one is those bedazzled jeans with all the stitching and fake rhinestones. Tacky, tacky, tacky.....


I would venture to guess that most Dolphin fans disagree with you.

But how do you see them?

When I finally had the opportunity to go a Dolphins home game back in 2016, I was shocked to see that the overwhelming majority of fans were wearing new logo gear.  (This was a throwback game, BTW.)  After all the squawking about how terrible the new logo and new uniforms are, the reality of what fans were wearing simply did not match up.

So I humbly suggest that the opinions of some loud fans on the internet or talk radio do not necessarily represent most of the Dolphin fanbase.

I like the throwbacks best, but I also like the new logo.

I won’t buy anything with this new logo on it. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. I like the color scheme though.

You are kidding yourself.  That's because you can pick the new up at any Walmart, Target or Publix. The new logo is everywhere and inexpensive. Buy the throwback uniforms and you're paying more money and it's in very limited places.

Do you have a bunch of new logo gear as it's "everywhere and inexpensive"?
Because your previous statements have led me to believe that you won't buy new logo gear because you don't like it, which would not seem to be the case with everyone else who IS buying new logo gear.

I say that the people who bought new logo gear did so because they like it (or, don't dislike it).  And as evidence, I cite all the new logo haters who loudly insist that they will never buy any gear with that terrible logo on it.  No one is forcing anyone to buy gear they don't like.

P.S. No matter how common and cheap the new gear is, it's cheaper to wear the older gear you already own.  Or are you saying that most of the people at the stadium didn't become fans until after 2013?

I have learned that if a sentence starts “no offense” what follows willl likely be offensive.  If the sentence begins “I am not a racist but” what follows will be racist.  If it begins “to be completely honest “ what follows is a lie.

start a sentence with all three and the universe explodes

Most people are casual fans and come and go like the wind. They also wear newer because they do not own old stuff. My immediate family has not "typically" purchased anything with the new logo although I do have one hat that has it. The hat is gray and does not have those putrid colors but does have the rounded Dolphin.  Oddly enough I read a review (by a non Dolphin fan) of proposed logo changes and it said about the Dolphins ... .... by rounding the dolphin they took an already friendly animal and made it look even less intimidating. ...

another factor is how much is gifts.  What should we get uncle spider for xmas...i dunno he is a dolphins fan lets get him a sweatshirt.  without specificly knowing the recievers preference for colors or logos.  so whatever is on sale at walmart.  I know that very little of the patriots stuff i own i purchased myself, so i have a mix of styles even though not all of it is my first choice.  The gifts i give are almost always the old logo, but the recipient might actually prefer the new. 

^^^True.

I would say that your blanket statements are false. Why would my OPINION about men wearing pink be offensive? There is absolutely nothing offensive about it. The reason for the preface, "no offense to anyone" is because in this world we live in, there are quite a few pussies that get offended at everything.

I like pink.  I look good in it.

I feel like if you like pink you should wear it, but TO BE COMPLETELY HONEST I think guys that wear pink look stupid.  

That's the truth Hoodie, not a lie.

I'm wearing a pink sweater today, actually. ...got complimented on it, too.

^I noticed a lot of women like it when men wear pink, or purples...like I said, I think it looks stupid, but no one is trying to impress me.

Purple is extremely popular around here with Orlando City being our soccer team.

I suspect there is a strong cultural bias at work and fashion does seem to be changing regarding which colors men "can wear".

When I think of teams playing in pink, I think of the Italian soccer club Palermo. Looking it up, they've been playing in pink since 1907! Of course, the premier sports newspaper in Italy, Gazzetta dello Sport, is famously printed on pink paper. Looking that one up, they actually started with pink in 1899!

I think that's a little cheeky picking out two very generic photoshopped online store picks to say how similar the jerseys are. Let's take a look at what the real ones look like out in the field...

(https://i.imgur.com/JUVvsPx.jpg)

vs

(https://i.imgur.com/eWdNmU8.jpg)

I'll take the Dolphins real logo and real colours seven days a week instead of that pastel pisstake that's been forced on us.

Ps. We just happen to win a hell of a lot more in that old uniform too by the way...

Someone put up a pole with only 2 simple choices. Old or new. That should give a basic consensus.

Or a Poll, that would work too. Sorry couldn't help it but putting up a pole just seemed wrong to me. :)

Hahaha, good catch. Guess that's what I get for dual screen multitasking while eating lunch. Not the worst typo that I've accomplished in my life, LMAO....

i did an image search hoping to find a pole with two signs old and new. 

Happy Festivus !!

Even Roger Goodell likes our throwbacks! The time is near!! Hahaha

“Well frankly, nearly everyone in the league offices thinks that the Miami Dolphins throwbacks should be their primary uniforms. They are the one team in this league that I think most fans would be in favor of the old look coming back” - Goodell when asked about his favorite uni.

Let’s gooo

Not that it isn't pretty obvious but Dan Marino says he would like to see the Miami Dolphins use the throwbacks uniforms full time but also says that he doesn’t think owner Stephen Ross will do it and that he thinks Ross “doesn’t want to hear it anymore”. Listening to Joe Rose further explain it sounds like Ross likens to new unis to his regime and doesn't want to change back. He gave in on things like the orange carpet, celebrity entrances, and T-Pain Dolphin song change but it doesn't sound like he will on this.

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I can't say I love the new unis, but I recognize that they're part of the history of the team now and I do equate them to this era.

I wish the NFL would loosen its rules and let us wear multiple kits in the season.

Current Kit
90s Throwback
80s Throwback
Alternate that is new every few years.  Could be Vice, Color Rush, Orange, etc.

It's also worth mentioning that from a marketing perspective, the new logo is less complex and easier to reproduce on merchandise (where it may need to be small).  This is a common theme in updated logos; you can see that the turn-of-the-millennium updated logos of the Broncos, Ravens, Patriots, and even the NFL itself all follow this pattern.