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Title: Brian Flores and a New Beginning
Post by: hordman on February 04, 2019, 07:53:32 am
Finally now that Super Bowl LIII is over, Brian Flores can be brought in and announced as the Miami Dolphins 13th Head Coach

Seeing what he his defensive unit has done for the last 3 weeks of the playoffs & SB has been encouraging and exciting to think he may be bringing this philosophy to the Dolphins, shutting down the LA Rams (2nd ranked Off), stifling the Chiefs (1st ranked Off) for the 1st half and blasting the LA Chargers (11th ranked Off)

Overall, NE was 5th in the league in total Defense, though their pts given up per game was high (27), their defense was pretty stout in the Redzone.

I'm excited more so than I have ever been since probably Jimmy Johnson was hired (though I was wrong about him, but that's another story & for another thread)

It looks like the front office has finally (FINALLY!!!) realized that putting band-aid upon band-aid on a mortal wound isn't working and they've decided to put the patient in a self-induced coma and take their time getting what they need to perform the surgery correctly and bring the patient along slowly and back to health in due time

Yes, there will be struggles early on, growing pains, and things will look bad at times, but I think getting the right personnel and getting young talent excited to play the game and do what they've been coached to do, will pay dividends in a 2-3 years.

This course has been needed for the last decade, but bringing in aging Vets and high-priced players has not paid off and actually made things worse.

I can't wait for the 2019 NFL draft and the culture they want to instill in this team, everyone from the GM down to the asst. coaches and HC Flores.

Hopefully this will be the turning point all Dolphins fans have been waiting for

Let's Go Phins!!!!!!!!!!!!!


https://twitter.com/flasportsbuzz/status/1092272116290985984 (https://twitter.com/flasportsbuzz/status/1092272116290985984)


Title: Re: Brian Flores and a New Beginning
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on February 04, 2019, 10:00:15 am
4 pm.  I guess he won’t be at tomorrow’s parade.


Title: Re: Brian Flores and a New Beginning
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on February 04, 2019, 11:30:02 am
Defensive minded is a nice change for us, although we all should understand that we are just trying to develop young talent this year, no big signings. So, I'm fine with 3-13. Hell, I prefer 1-15.


Title: Re: Brian Flores and a New Beginning
Post by: Pappy13 on February 04, 2019, 11:36:06 am
I'll believe it when I see it. Seems there's a lot of brilliant coaches when they coach under Belichick. Not so much when they leave and get out on their own.

As far as the philosophy people act like the Dolphins haven't drafted anyone in 10 years and have been doing nothing but signing FA's. Yeah right. I don't think it's been the draft picks as much as it has been a failure to get them to produce. That's partly on the players and partly on the coaching staff. I love how everyone is seeing this as a huge win for the Dolphins. Let's see how they feel in a couple years. I would love for it to work out but I don't hold out much hope.


Title: Re: Brian Flores and a New Beginning
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on February 04, 2019, 11:54:07 am

I'll believe it when I see it. Seems there's a lot of brilliant coaches when they coach under Belichick. Not so much when they leave and get out on their own.


Very true.  From what I understand is BB often likes to take the play calling duties away from his coordinators and call the the plays himself.  But with Flores, BB let Flores call the shots. 

There is a difference between Patrica implementing BB's plan and BB trust Flores to do it on his own. 

No guarantee things will be different.  Actually my biggest reservation about Flores development is he  has only served under one HC, I think you need a range of experiences. 

I would say the *KEY* to Flores success is if he is able to draw on Cadwell's experience as effectively as McVay has with Philips.   


Title: Re: Brian Flores and a New Beginning
Post by: CF DolFan on February 04, 2019, 01:03:34 pm
The more I hear about him the more I'm excited about Flores. He will bring a level of discipline and respect this team hasn't seen in a while. The turnaround he made with the NE defense this year was what you look for in a coach. He is a leader no doubt.


Title: Re: Brian Flores and a New Beginning
Post by: Tenshot13 on February 04, 2019, 03:15:01 pm
Formally hired Flores...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyliktNWwAEcXbX.jpg)

https://twitter.com/AdamHBeasley/status/1092512773576318976 (https://twitter.com/AdamHBeasley/status/1092512773576318976)

Getting hyped



Title: Re: Brian Flores and a New Beginning
Post by: pondwater on February 04, 2019, 05:36:14 pm
Not very impressed by his press conference. Bumbling, studdering, deer in the headlights. Hopefully things workout better than the last few. I won't hold my breath though...


Title: Re: Brian Flores and a New Beginning
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on February 04, 2019, 05:40:55 pm
Not very impressed by his press conference. Bumbling, studdering, deer in the headlights. Hopefully things workout better than the last few. I won't hold my breath though...

Guy has probably had 2 hours of sleep in the last 36 hours. 


Title: Re: Brian Flores and a New Beginning
Post by: masterfins on February 04, 2019, 05:51:12 pm
Guy has probably had 2 hours of sleep in the last 36 hours. 

+1

I thought he did well, lots of "um"'s, hopefully he is the answer to our woes.


Title: Re: Brian Flores and a New Beginning
Post by: pondwater on February 04, 2019, 05:57:27 pm
Guy has probably had 2 hours of sleep in the last 36 hours. 
In my opinion, he looks in over his head. I think after the past 20 years of shitty play in Miami, I'll let him prove himself before I buy in. There's really no other way to look at it as far as I'm concerned.


Title: Re: Brian Flores and a New Beginning
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on February 04, 2019, 06:21:28 pm
I don't mind you stealing our linebackers coach and our wide receivers coach but did you have to steal our assistant QB coach as well.   :o :o :o :o :o


Title: Re: Brian Flores and a New Beginning
Post by: Spider-Dan on February 04, 2019, 06:52:18 pm
Looking forward to the next Romeo Crennel/Charlie Weis/Josh McDaniels/Bill O'Brien/Matt Patricia from the illustrious Bill Belichick coaching tree.



Title: Re: Brian Flores and a New Beginning
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on February 04, 2019, 07:13:21 pm
Looking forward to the next Romeo Crennel/Charlie Weis/Josh McDaniels/Bill O'Brien/Matt Patricia from the illustrious Bill Belichick coaching tree.



You forgot Eric Mangini


Title: Re: Brian Flores and a New Beginning
Post by: Spider-Dan on February 04, 2019, 10:54:54 pm
that guy too

I think we will find out very quickly whether Flores is any good, pretty much before the season starts.  If he treats players like disposable baby wipes, immediately ships out MIA's best talent, and regards the media as poisonous vipers who should be dealt with only when necessary, he will be a complete failure (like everyone else from the House of Belichick).


Title: Re: Brian Flores and a New Beginning
Post by: Downunder Dolphan on February 05, 2019, 07:41:40 am
I am cautiously optimistic, not just about Flores but also having Caldwell on board as an assistant. I really like the idea of having an experienced senior assistant as a possible mentor for a rookie coach.

Gase did some good things here in clearing out trash that should have gone years ago, but there was also the feeling on game day he was really in the deep end and way over his head, either stranded without help or just too arrogant to look for/accept it. I am hoping it's a bit like McDaniels stint at Denver, while his time there was generally pretty horrible he did plant a few seeds that were built on by smarter coaches to eventually turn into a Superbowl winning team. I guess I can dream...

Ps. The really cynical folk out there can also point out that if we really are going to tank it next year, Caldwell should be a great guide after his successful Suck for Luck campaign.  :P ;D


Title: Re: Brian Flores and a New Beginning
Post by: CF DolFan on February 05, 2019, 10:43:04 am
that guy too

I think we will find out very quickly whether Flores is any good, pretty much before the season starts.  If he treats players like disposable baby wipes, immediately ships out MIA's best talent, and regards the media as poisonous vipers who should be dealt with only when necessary, he will be a complete failure (like everyone else from the House of Belichick).
Regardless of talent ... if they are not a team first person then yes, they will be gone. As well ... when good players are looking to get top money off their second contracts then they will be gone. Listening to him on Joe Rose this morning he seems like he is very much looking to mold the team after the way the Patriots do things. he thinks the same way and why he has worked so well. It's completely a Team First philosophy and no free lancing.

“I think changing the culture, there could be some resistance,” Flores told ProFootballTalk. “We’ll work through that. We’ll do the things that we think are necessary to help this team improve. We’ll do that on a day-to-day basis.”

They signed him to a 5 year deal.


Title: Re: Brian Flores and a New Beginning
Post by: dolphins4life on February 05, 2019, 06:12:07 pm
I am cautiously optimistic, not just about Flores but also having Caldwell on board as an assistant. I really like the idea of having an experienced senior assistant as a possible mentor for a rookie coach.

Gase did some good things here in clearing out trash that should have gone years ago, but there was also the feeling on game day he was really in the deep end and way over his head, either stranded without help or just too arrogant to look for/accept it. I am hoping it's a bit like McDaniels stint at Denver, while his time there was generally pretty horrible he did plant a few seeds that were built on by smarter coaches to eventually turn into a Superbowl winning team. I guess I can dream...

Ps. The really cynical folk out there can also point out that if we really are going to tank it next year, Caldwell should be a great guide after his successful Suck for Luck campaign.  :P ;D

Where did this ridiculous tanking idea come from?

Miami has been in the playoff race each of the last three years.


Title: Re: Brian Flores and a New Beginning
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on February 06, 2019, 02:06:41 pm
You guys have some sort of requirement that all coaches must have some connection to the Patriots? 

https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1093174159016902657


Title: Re: Brian Flores and a New Beginning
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on February 07, 2019, 01:58:17 pm
that guy too

I think we will find out very quickly whether Flores is any good, pretty much before the season starts.  If he treats players like disposable baby wipes, immediately ships out MIA's best talent, and regards the media as poisonous vipers who should be dealt with only when necessary, he will be a complete failure (like everyone else from the House of Belichick).

That might be an oversimplification.  I think some of O’Brians problem is he is trying to bring a winning culture to a team with a team that is okay with losing.

Practing at 100% and staying late to watch game film so you can work until February is not preferable to practicing at 70%, partying with hot women, coming to practice hungover and starting vacation at the end of December to some guys.  They are being paid millions they want to enjoy it.  A hard nosed coach comes in they rebell doesn’t mean the coach is wrong. 

So I do expect Flores to get rid of talented slackers.


Title: Re: Brian Flores and a New Beginning
Post by: Downunder Dolphan on February 07, 2019, 03:57:36 pm
So I do expect Flores to get rid of talented slackers.

Gase started this already: while admittedly overall I didn't rate him much as a coach, I do give him credit for cleaning out some of the trash that was poisoning the Dolphins culture and ultimately has been one factor holding us back.


Title: Re: Brian Flores and a New Beginning
Post by: masterfins on February 07, 2019, 05:52:08 pm
I could be wrong, but the one impression I seem to get from Flores is that he actually wants to "coach" players, not just draw up plays and expect the players to execute them.  This is something that seems to be lacking from the last few regimes.


Title: Re: Brian Flores and a New Beginning
Post by: CF DolFan on February 08, 2019, 08:37:43 am
From PFT

New Dolphins coach Brian Flores told reporters on Monday that he’ll be himself. On Tuesday, Flores shed some light on what being himself will entail.

“They should expect someone who is demanding,” Flores said on PFT Live. “Someone who’s just going to be honest and try to tell the truth on a day-to-day basis. I like to get out in front of things and be transparent. But definitely demanding. Definitely someone who is going to try to get the best out of everyone.

“You know, I try to get the best out of everyone I come across. I have this written on my wall here. ‘What can I do to help you succeed?’ That’s kind of my goal here is to help everyone in the building succeed. That’s players, that’s coaches, equipment [personnel], that’s media, pubic relations. If I can, I want to impact lives. That’s why I went into coaching. That’s what you’re going to get.”

That’s a good thing to get, even if it will entail some resistance from folks who may not like a demanding style. Those folks likely won’t last long under Flores, either choosing to leave or eventually being asked to.

Regardless, it’s a style that Flores has shaped over the course of his 37 years, 15 of which came in a wide variety of roles with the Patriots. Given his experiences there, he could be one of the members of the Belichick tree best suited to thrive on his own


Title: Re: Brian Flores and a New Beginning
Post by: CF DolFan on February 11, 2019, 02:56:40 pm
I realize TonyBOD isn't too happy  .... or at least the blackface thread made him say so ... but correct me if I'm wrong but he is the first coach to have other Patriot coaches follow him? Seems like they have more confidence in him than waiting their turn in New England .


Title: Re: Brian Flores and a New Beginning
Post by: Tenshot13 on February 11, 2019, 03:03:20 pm
The people he is surrounding himself with is exciting enough for me.


Title: Re: Brian Flores and a New Beginning
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on February 11, 2019, 03:27:49 pm
I realize TonyBOD isn't too happy  .... or at least the blackface thread made him say so ... but correct me if I'm wrong but he is the first coach to have other Patriot coaches follow him? Seems like they have more confidence in him than waiting their turn in New England .

I don't think so.  I don't recall exactly who went with who.  But I do recall threads on the Patriots boards bemoaning about new head coaches poaching assistants, scouts etc.  I know Eric Mangini was recruiting coaches on the plane home from the lose at Denver.  I don't recall if anyone went with him or not. 

I am not sure what to make of his departure being so harmonious given that it was to a divisional rival.   Other than Eric Managini all of BB's ex assistants left the division.  And that was the only one that was contentious. 


Title: Re: Brian Flores and a New Beginning
Post by: CF DolFan on February 13, 2019, 06:18:44 am
I don't think so.  I don't recall exactly who went with who.  But I do recall threads on the Patriots boards bemoaning about new head coaches poaching assistants, scouts etc.  I know Eric Mangini was recruiting coaches on the plane home from the lose at Denver.  I don't recall if anyone went with him or not. 

I am not sure what to make of his departure being so harmonious given that it was to a divisional rival.   Other than Eric Managini all of BB's ex assistants left the division.  And that was the only one that was contentious. 
IF BB is only here for a short time then he wouldn't really care. In fact .. if he retires and New England flops with Josh it only adds to the BB legend.