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Title: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: Tenshot13 on March 17, 2019, 02:46:43 pm
That's who I wanted, I like the move.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1107352466461507584?s=09 (https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1107352466461507584?s=09)

2 year 11 million, with incentives up to 20 million


Title: Fitzmagic coming to Miami
Post by: BuccaneerBrad on March 17, 2019, 02:47:11 pm
You guys just signed Ryan Fitzpatrick


Title: Re: Fitzmagic coming to Miami
Post by: Tenshot13 on March 17, 2019, 02:50:53 pm
Already beat you to the punch, merge threads


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: fyo on March 17, 2019, 02:55:18 pm
I don't get this move. Why get a reasonable quarterback? This is going to be a 5 win season.


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: Tenshot13 on March 17, 2019, 03:00:52 pm
So cynical.  We don't need a full rebuild, there are pieces in place.  Offensive line, defensive line and we're competitive.


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on March 17, 2019, 03:28:59 pm
It is a very good move.  Fitzmagic isn’t taking you to the superbowl, but he does allow you to be competitive in games.

Doing what some want and having a truly horrible QB to chase the first overall draft pick would be a bad idea.  Here is why:  If the Dolphins were to actually tank the players would respond by giving less than 100%.  And that is fine for getting the first overall pick.  But that creates a culture of failure.  And yes, you can change culture, but that requires changing coaching staff.


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: Tenshot13 on March 17, 2019, 03:33:45 pm
^^^


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on March 17, 2019, 04:00:37 pm
Assuming he starts at least one game, he will have started on 8 different teams.  That might be a record.  There certainly are QBs that have been in on more teams than that.  But typically they have a few teams with zero starts.  He has started on all 7.


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: stinkfish on March 17, 2019, 04:58:06 pm
Woo Hoo!!


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on March 17, 2019, 07:34:02 pm
I don't like this, we have some deep threats and Fitzpatrick can sling us into more victories than we want. We won't make the playoffs or anything, but we can accidentally win 4 or 5 games and that's way too many.

If we start off 1-0, bench him.


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on March 17, 2019, 07:38:34 pm
I don't like this, we have some deep threats and Fitzpatrick can sling us into more victories than we want. We won't make the playoffs or anything, but we can accidentally win 4 or 5 games and that's way too many.

If we start off 1-0, bench him.

If Flores does that he permanently loses the locker room.


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on March 17, 2019, 08:17:50 pm
Oh, I know. Absolutely 0% chance of that happening, just saying that there is too much upside to this move. Fitzpatrick is not anyone's answer long term, but he is more than capable of a great 6 or 7 game run where he throws for over 2,000 yards and completely destroys our chances for a Top 3 pick.


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: Pappy13 on March 17, 2019, 11:48:54 pm
I don't like this, we have some deep threats and Fitzpatrick can sling us into more victories than we want.
I don't know how he's going to have time to find them considering the OL. Fitzpatrick is going to be running for his life 75% of the time he drops back. Unless 3 is too many wins, it's not going to be an issue. There's a very good reason that Fitzpatrick was a free agent. He's not THAT good.


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on March 18, 2019, 08:33:52 am
I don't know how he's going to have time to find them considering the OL. Fitzpatrick is going to be running for his life 75% of the time he drops back. Unless 3 is too many wins, it's not going to be an issue. There's a very good reason that Fitzpatrick was a free agent. He's not THAT good.

With the NY Giants? Yeah, 3 is too many wins. Plus, never know when one team sacrifices their whole draft to move into the top spot. It paid off quite well for the Rams.

1 win max. I don't want Fitzmagic just hucking it downfield all game and Stills has a career 240 yard performance and we win. I want a QB sneak on every play. I want our defense to line up in punt return formation on 1st down.


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: stinkfish on March 18, 2019, 09:21:40 am
I just think it's neat having a Harvard QB, especially one that I got to watch for four years. He did really well. Now if the Dolphins could only play Ivy League and 1AA teams this season.


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on March 18, 2019, 10:05:26 am
Need to start stocking up on popcorn. This board is going to be solid gold, with some folks rooting for loses and other for wins.


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: CF DolFan on March 18, 2019, 10:22:43 am
I don't get this move. Why get a reasonable quarterback? This is going to be a 5 win season.
My thoughts exactly. Hopefully we Fitz we can be competitive but still lose. Like I'd have no issue with him throwing 4 TDs and having 4 Ints and losing 35-31.


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: stinkfish on March 18, 2019, 10:29:45 am
I'd still like to see my team win games though. Especially against the Patsies.


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: CF DolFan on March 18, 2019, 10:33:03 am
I'd still like to see my team win games though. Especially against the Patsies.
If we win 4 games I would love for it to be against the Pats and Jets!


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: hordman on March 18, 2019, 11:13:13 am
That's who I wanted, I like the move.
2 year 11 million, with incentives up to 20 million

Agreed. Lot of upside with Ryan, but also know he can have that game where he throws 3-4 picks.  One thing I will say, if MIA can put a good line in front of him, give him some time, he will make plays down the field for Stills and Wilson along with Parker if he can shake the injury bug & stay on the field.

Fitzy loved throwing the deep ball to DeSean Jackson while in Tampa. 

Like I said, he's more upside than Tannehill, but he will also have that game where you're shaking your head at the picks.  He takes alot less sacks than RT and moves outside the pocket. Not a huge runner IIRC, but he does move to avoid taking bad sacks


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: hordman on March 18, 2019, 11:13:32 am
Need to start stocking up on popcorn. This board is going to be solid gold, with some folks rooting for loses and other for wins.

I'm only rooting for wins.


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on March 18, 2019, 11:14:40 am
If we win 4 games I would love for it to be against the Pats and Jets!

if you can sweep the pats and jets you should be in the hunt for the division not a top 5 pick.


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: hordman on March 18, 2019, 11:15:12 am
Good news, if you had a jersey or t-shirt from the last 7 years that had only "Ryan" (and not Tannehill) on the back of it, you can still wear it with pride.


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on March 18, 2019, 12:04:54 pm
Good news, if you had a jersey or t-shirt from the last 7 years that had only "Ryan" (and not Tannehill) on the back of it, you can still wear it with pride.

And you a Falcons fan. 


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: CF DolFan on March 18, 2019, 02:45:27 pm
if you can sweep the pats and jets you should be in the hunt for the division not a top 5 pick.
LOL ... not true. We went 3-4 in those games last year and were not even close to challenging the Patriots for the division. 


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: Pappy13 on March 18, 2019, 03:04:22 pm
With the NY Giants? Yeah, 3 is too many wins. Plus, never know when one team sacrifices their whole draft to move into the top spot. It paid off quite well for the Rams.
Giants will pick a RB or WR anyway.  >:D


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on March 18, 2019, 03:46:28 pm
LOL ... not true. We went 3-4 in those games last year and were not even close to challenging the Patriots for the division. 

Flip that NE loss, leave every thing else the same..... you go into week 17 8-7, NE is now 9-6 setting up a situation where a Dolphin win plus a NE loss gets the division.  I would call that challenging NE for the division. 

Last time Fins swept NE they won the division (2000)


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on March 18, 2019, 03:47:48 pm
Giants will pick a RB or WR anyway.  >:D

I think both the Fins and Giants draft a QB in the first round next year.


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: Dolphster on March 18, 2019, 04:22:58 pm
Need to start stocking up on popcorn. This board is going to be solid gold, with some folks rooting for loses and other for wins.

LOL, I was thinking the same thing.  There are going to be some crazy ass things said here next season.  TDMMC posters will probably be more entertaining that the games themselves. 


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on March 18, 2019, 04:37:39 pm
LOL, I was thinking the same thing.  There are going to be some crazy ass things said here next season.  TDMMC posters will probably be more entertaining that the games themselves. 

My position has always been that if we are 2-10, you should put salt in your eyes if you root for us to win the last 4 games.


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on March 18, 2019, 04:46:43 pm
My position has always been that if we are 2-10, you should put salt in your eyes if you root for us to win the last 4 games.

It is one thing to root against your team late in the season once they are mathematically eliminated from making the playoffs, it is an entirely different matter to do so when they are 0-0. 


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: stinkfish on March 18, 2019, 05:11:31 pm
I just can’t not want my team to win, regardless of the time of season. Hoping for your team to lose is antithetical to being a fan.


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: Tenshot13 on March 18, 2019, 05:57:31 pm
I just can’t not want my team to win, regardless of the time of season. Hoping for your team to lose is antithetical to being a fan.

Nicely said, I feel the same way.


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: masterfins on March 18, 2019, 06:47:08 pm
I strongly believe Miami will take Lock this year @ #13, and let him sit for a year behind Fitz.


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: Pappy13 on March 18, 2019, 07:24:32 pm
I strongly believe Miami will take Lock this year @ #13, and let him sit for a year behind Fitz.
Wouldn't be the worst pick in the world.


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: Tenshot13 on March 18, 2019, 07:50:26 pm
I don't like Lock, he doesn't have a strong arm.


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: masterfins on March 18, 2019, 08:17:32 pm
I don't like Lock, he doesn't have a strong arm.

I don't know where you're getting that from, the scouting reports I've read all say he has a cannon for an arm.


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: Tenshot13 on March 18, 2019, 09:44:40 pm
Yeah my bad, I read that on Daniel Jones, which also isn't true so I don't know where I saw that, probably Reddit.


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on March 19, 2019, 08:47:34 am
It is one thing to root against your team late in the season once they are mathematically eliminated from making the playoffs, it is an entirely different matter to do so when they are 0-0. 


I have watched this team be shit for almost the entire last decade and one of the main reasons for that is consistent mediocre records that keep us out of the playoffs but also out of the Top 5 in drafting.

Since we are going to be really bad this year, there is no point in hoping we pull out 5-6 wins. If we start off 6-0 somehow? Awesome, now I'm on board with winning every game. Start the year 1-5? Lose every last game. If we don't secure that #1 pick, Tua will be gone and we got some stiff competition this year with the Giants.


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: Fau Teixeira on March 19, 2019, 08:59:57 am
I'd like Ryan Fitzpatrick to lead us to an undefeated season and a super bowl win .. 
how about we start there


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: Tenshot13 on March 19, 2019, 09:22:11 am
^^^


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on March 19, 2019, 11:08:16 am
I'd like Ryan Fitzpatrick to lead us to an undefeated season and a super bowl win .. 
how about we start there

While I am not rooting that way, I respect that stance......Tank for Tua....not so much.


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on March 19, 2019, 11:12:10 am
I'd like Ryan Fitzpatrick to lead us to an undefeated season and a super bowl win .. 
how about we start there

Same, although the pathway to the Superbowl is realistically not through Ryan Fitzpatrick. It is through being absolute shit in 2019, getting a franchise QB in the draft and building a contender with our 2020 cap space and draft haul. So, I am putting my fandom on the more likely scenario of tanking and drafting rather than Fitzmagic. Another 5-11 season would be devastating for this franchise.


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: Tenshot13 on March 19, 2019, 03:05:57 pm
https://twitter.com/flasportsbuzz/status/1108076347656683520?s=19 (https://twitter.com/flasportsbuzz/status/1108076347656683520?s=19)

"[Jackson] Got my hands on Ryan Fitzpatrick contract. Dolphins guaranteed $1.5 M of $5.5 M base salary in 2020. Dolphins could move on if they want to after 2019, but no reason to unless he's unspeakably bad this season"


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: Dolphster on March 19, 2019, 03:49:01 pm
Board bros are going to be pissed this season every week whether they win or lose.   ;D


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: Downunder Dolphan on March 20, 2019, 08:32:32 am
I cannot emphasize how much I hate this decision.

For a team that is supposed to be rebuilding and getting players to buy into a team-first mentaility, we pick up an ordinary QB who is a total FIGJAM to boot.

I never have rated Fitztragic - how the hell can you take a player seriously who throws six picks in a game? He may fluke the odd win (which if we are really planning on tanking next year we don't need), but add in his me-first mentality and he is the last guy we need to lead the team at this stage.


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: Tenshot13 on March 20, 2019, 08:59:12 am
^Right now, Fitz is a better QB than Tannehill


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: CF DolFan on March 20, 2019, 09:01:32 am
A lot of talk has gone on about drafting Will Grier in the 3rd this year and having him start later in the season behind Fitz. I don't think anyone would mind him backing up Tua Tagovailoa down the road.  


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: Tenshot13 on March 20, 2019, 09:04:50 am
I'm all about a developmental mid round QB, no harm no foul if he doesn't pan out.  There are talks he may go sooner than 3rd round though.


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on March 20, 2019, 11:23:59 am
I don't want to waste a 3rd rounder on a project. We need talent all over the field, aside from the first 2 rounds where we really need to go O-line or D-Line, take the best available player when it's time to select.


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: Tenshot13 on March 20, 2019, 11:30:59 am
There are plenty of proto size QBs late in the draft.  Check out this list.

http://walterfootball.com/draft2019QB.php (http://walterfootball.com/draft2019QB.php)


Title: Re: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick agrees to a two year deal with the Dolphins
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on March 20, 2019, 01:05:27 pm
add in his me-first mentality and he is the last guy we need to lead the team at this stage.


From everything I have read he is a great teammate. Inconsistent QB, but a team player that gets along with everyone.