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Title: Bengals Safety Shawn Williams Suspended after Dolphins Game
Post by: fyo on December 08, 2020, 08:18:08 am
Apparently he was deemed to have stepped on Kindley on purpose after a play, completely unrelated to the "brawl" (where he was ejected). The refs didn't see anything during the game and so obviously no flag was thrown.

Gotta admit I didn't see it and didn't notice Kindley making a big deal about anything.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30472278/nfl-suspends-tennessee-titans-de-teair-tart-cincinnati-bengals-s-shawn-williams-one-game


Title: Re: Bengals Safety Shawn Williams Suspended after Dolphins Game
Post by: Tenshot13 on December 08, 2020, 08:31:45 am
Dirty ass team


Title: Re: Bengals Safety Shawn Williams Suspended after Dolphins Game
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on December 08, 2020, 08:35:34 am
I saw a bunch of the replays and it was very intentional.


Title: Re: Bengals Safety Shawn Williams Suspended after Dolphins Game
Post by: fyo on December 08, 2020, 09:16:04 am
I saw a bunch of the replays and it was very intentional.

When did it happen? I read on a local Cincy site that it *was* during the "brawl", but ESPN said it wasn't: "Williams stepped on Miami guard Solomon Kindley at the end of a passing play. Neither player was penalized for the incident at the time."

I did watch the second hit on Grant again a few times and that's just ridiculously dirty in my book. The rule is very simple. The catcher has to get a chance to make the catch before you can hit him. You can't hit him *simultaneous* with the catch, it has to be *after*. That makes it very simple to avoid hits like the second one against Grant. Since the gunner *must* have his head raised (can't lead with crown): Is the ball in his field of view when he launches himself? No, then he can't launch and if he does, he should at least try to avoid doing damage (so lead with his hands, rotate to avoid impact etc). Anything else is *deliberate* with an enormous risk of injury.

There's a reason there are very few kick catch interference calls. Personally, I think it's ridiculous that the above scenario results in the exact same penalty as a player accidentally getting in the way of the catcher's route to the ball. Action, intent, and consequence are completely different, so why should the penalty be the same?


Title: Re: Bengals Safety Shawn Williams Suspended after Dolphins Game
Post by: CF DolFan on December 08, 2020, 10:38:59 am
I didn't see it either but it got posted to twitter pretty quickly after the game.


Title: Re: Bengals Safety Shawn Williams Suspended after Dolphins Game
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on December 08, 2020, 11:51:19 am
When did it happen? I read on a local Cincy site that it *was* during the "brawl", but ESPN said it wasn't: "Williams stepped on Miami guard Solomon Kindley at the end of a passing play. Neither player was penalized for the incident at the time."

I did watch the second hit on Grant again a few times and that's just ridiculously dirty in my book. The rule is very simple. The catcher has to get a chance to make the catch before you can hit him. You can't hit him *simultaneous* with the catch, it has to be *after*. That makes it very simple to avoid hits like the second one against Grant. Since the gunner *must* have his head raised (can't lead with crown): Is the ball in his field of view when he launches himself? No, then he can't launch and if he does, he should at least try to avoid doing damage (so lead with his hands, rotate to avoid impact etc). Anything else is *deliberate* with an enormous risk of injury.

There's a reason there are very few kick catch interference calls. Personally, I think it's ridiculous that the above scenario results in the exact same penalty as a player accidentally getting in the way of the catcher's route to the ball. Action, intent, and consequence are completely different, so why should the penalty be the same?

It was right after a play when we were on offense. Solomon was on the ground and he clearly stepped on his leg.


Title: Re: Bengals Safety Shawn Williams Suspended after Dolphins Game
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on December 08, 2020, 12:58:59 pm
Dirty ass team

The Bengals playing dirty still??  Perhaps Burfect and Pac Man weren't the problem