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Title: Free Agency moves
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on March 15, 2021, 07:22:51 pm
Looks like Ol' Bill wants the Pats back in the Super Bowl  He is spending money like crazy over there and he seems like he has something to prove without Tom Brady.  In the past ten years, he's spend a total of $400 million on free agents.  He's getting close to half that just today.  


Title: Re: Free Agency moves
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on March 15, 2021, 07:26:32 pm
It's a wise move by him. They need talent and have cap space, it all depends on Cam or whoever their QB will be, but 10 wins isn't out of the question with the right moves and some luck.


Title: Re: Free Agency moves
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on March 15, 2021, 07:45:23 pm
It's a wise move by him. They need talent and have cap space, it all depends on Cam or whoever their QB will be, but 10 wins isn't out of the question with the right moves and some luck.

Cam is a stopgap right now.  I think they go after a second tier QB in the draft like a Mac Jones or Kyle Trask who will sit and learn under Cam.  And if Cam falters like he did last season, they will turn the reigns over to whoever they draft.


Title: Re: Free Agency moves
Post by: Tenshot13 on March 16, 2021, 07:43:26 am
Fitzmagic to the Washington Football Team.  Thanks for the memories Fitz!  WFT is a good fit for him (plus it keeps him out of the AFC lol).


Title: Re: Free Agency moves
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on March 16, 2021, 08:25:45 am
Fitzmagic to the Washington Football Team.  Thanks for the memories Fitz!  WFT is a good fit for him (plus it keeps him out of the AFC lol).

It's a great fit for him, he should definitely be the starter and considering the division, he may finally go to the playoffs.


Title: Re: Free Agency moves
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on March 16, 2021, 08:50:40 am
Jets sign Carl Lawson.

At this point, I don't know what pass rushers are left but we are either signing a budget player or drafting a DE. Hopefully, this means we are signing a top WR and not using our #3 pick on one. This has not been the best free agent period for us so far, I wasn't expecting blockbusters but the other AFC East teams are doing far better than us.


Title: Re: Free Agency moves
Post by: Tenshot13 on March 16, 2021, 08:54:39 am
Jets sign Carl Lawson.

At this point, I don't know what pass rushers are left but we are either signing a budget player or drafting a DE. Hopefully, this means we are signing a top WR and not using our #3 pick on one. This has not been the best free agent period for us so far, I wasn't expecting blockbusters but the other AFC East teams are doing far better than us.
There are a lot of guys left that could fit in, just not the expensive free agents.  Clowney (if he doesn't ask too much) and drafting a guy might be the best way to go.


Title: Re: Free Agency moves
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on March 16, 2021, 09:12:48 am
Clowney has looked like shit 2 years running now. I would give him 1 year/$3 Million at most and see if he shows anything but he can't be our answer at DE.

At this rate, we are absolutely auctioning off our #3 pick.


Title: Re: Free Agency moves
Post by: Tenshot13 on March 16, 2021, 09:57:53 am
Clowney has looked like shit 2 years running now. I would give him 1 year/$3 Million at most and see if he shows anything but he can't be our answer at DE.

At this rate, we are absolutely auctioning off our #3 pick.
You sound kind of distraught we didn't blow our wad on a guy like Bud Dupree.  There are plenty of bargin bin guys that are serviceable or were great and could have a career resurgence.  It's kind of been the mold all along with Miami.  There will be plenty of good DE prospects if we go that way with the #18 pick and even in the second round.  Trust the process.


Title: Re: Free Agency moves
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on March 16, 2021, 10:24:21 am
Pats just signed Hunter Henry to pair with Judon Smith who they signed yesterday.  Looks like Ol' Bill is trying to duplicate the Gronk/Hernandez two tight end set. 


Title: Re: Free Agency moves
Post by: Sunstroke on March 16, 2021, 10:38:23 am

Pats just signed Hunter Henry to pair with Judon Smith who they signed yesterday.  Looks like Ol' Bill is trying to duplicate the Gronk/Hernandez two tight end set. 

Who is the other TE beside Hunter Henry?

Ah...Jonnu Smith is the other TE, and Matthew Judon is the DL they signed.  Got it




Title: Re: Free Agency moves
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on March 16, 2021, 01:06:18 pm
You sound kind of distraught we didn't blow our wad on a guy like Bud Dupree.  There are plenty of bargin bin guys that are serviceable or were great and could have a career resurgence.  It's kind of been the mold all along with Miami.  There will be plenty of good DE prospects if we go that way with the #18 pick and even in the second round.  Trust the process.

They've done more good than bad but we have also made mistakes too. I know we can't just sign whoever we want, but the draft is a crapshoot on terms on if the player works out and if he falls to you. Who says any of the Top 3 guys we want at 18 will be there?


Title: Re: Free Agency moves
Post by: masterfins on March 16, 2021, 01:07:32 pm
Fitzmagic to the Washington Football Team.  Thanks for the memories Fitz!  WFT is a good fit for him (plus it keeps him out of the AFC lol).

As much as I would have loved to have Fitzpatrick back, I'm glad he's gone; it would have been to easy to put him in if Tua was playing bad.  It's time to have Tua play out the full season and see what kind of player he is.


Title: Re: Free Agency moves
Post by: masterfins on March 16, 2021, 01:10:31 pm
The Jets have a ton of cap space, so they should be going after a lot of players, especially since the GM is now in the hot seat.  He didn't want to spend any money last year, and Darnold was left without any receivers (Darnold may be a decent QB, hard to judge him when there are no players around him).


Title: Re: Free Agency moves
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on March 16, 2021, 01:14:10 pm
The Jets have a ton of cap space, so they should be going after a lot of players, especially since the GM is now in the hot seat.  He didn't want to spend any money last year, and Darnold was left without any receivers (Darnold may be a decent QB, hard to judge him when there are no players around him).

I hope the Jets stick with Darnold and draft Sewell or one of the WRs. A ransom ould be had for our #3 pick then. I imagine it will have been traded weeks earlier but if we wait until the last minute, the phone will be off the hook.


Title: Re: Free Agency moves
Post by: masterfins on March 16, 2021, 01:20:28 pm
I hope the Jets stick with Darnold and draft Sewell or one of the WRs. A ransom ould be had for our #3 pick then. I imagine it will have been traded weeks earlier but if we wait until the last minute, the phone will be off the hook.

Sorry, not going to happen.  I have already confirmed with my inside sources that the Dolphins are going to use the #3 to draft Sewell for themselves.   ::)


Title: Re: Free Agency moves
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on March 16, 2021, 01:43:22 pm
As much as I would have loved to have Fitzpatrick back, I'm glad he's gone; it would have been to easy to put him in if Tua was playing bad.  It's time to have Tua play out the full season and see what kind of player he is.

Why not gamble a late round pick on a project QB.  You draft a guy like Shane Buchelle or Ian Book, you never know


Title: Re: Free Agency moves
Post by: Sunstroke on March 16, 2021, 02:19:24 pm
Sorry, not going to happen.  I have already confirmed with my inside sources that the Dolphins are going to use the #3 to draft Sewell for themselves.   ::)

I'm good with that...



Title: Re: Free Agency moves
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on March 16, 2021, 02:26:52 pm
I'm good with that...


So am I, as long as we get the WR in free agency.


Title: Re: Free Agency moves
Post by: masterfins on March 16, 2021, 03:12:12 pm
Why not gamble a late round pick on a project QB.  You draft a guy like Shane Buchelle or Ian Book, you never know

I'd rather just see them try and get by with the two guys on the practice squad, or pick up a cast off from another team that drafts a QB.  I just don't see the point in wasting a draft pick on a "project QB" when you have your franchise QB for the next 13 years in his first full year of play.  And IF Tua does completely fail, then let the team fail miserably so they can get as high a pick as possible to draft a QB next year.


Title: Re: Free Agency moves
Post by: Sunstroke on March 17, 2021, 08:41:49 am

I love how my 49ers are handling free agency so far. They aren't going after any flashy signings, they are signing their own (Trent Williams, Kyle Juszczyk, and adding depth to the O-line with Alex Mack.

My kinda free agency...



Title: Re: Free Agency moves
Post by: stinkfish on March 17, 2021, 09:11:53 am
And still news out of Miami. I Wish that they would do SOMETHING. To me it feels like the rest of the AFC East is going to need to get into an arms race with the Patsies.


Title: Re: Free Agency moves
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on March 17, 2021, 09:38:24 am
And still news out of Miami. I Wish that they would do SOMETHING. To me it feels like the rest of the AFC East is going to need to get into an arms race with the Patsies.

It's looking like we are going to get the Patriots center or a WR, not both. Our improvements will have to come through the draft and that probably meanstrading back from 3 for hopefully a King's ransom.


Title: Re: Free Agency moves
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on March 17, 2021, 09:39:09 am
I love how my 49ers are handling free agency so far. They aren't going after any flashy signings, they are signing their own (Trent Williams, Kyle Juszczyk, and adding depth to the O-line with Alex Mack.

My kinda free agency...



Considering his age, I could only assume the 6 year deal for Trent is really a 2-3 year deal filled with your typical NFL contract shenanigans.


Title: Re: Free Agency moves
Post by: Sunstroke on March 17, 2021, 10:58:36 am
Considering his age, I could only assume the 6 year deal for Trent is really a 2-3 year deal filled with your typical NFL contract shenanigans.

A wee bit of shenanigans, I suppose, but since Trent was the top rated OT in the league last season, I have no issues with paying the man whatever he needs.



Title: Re: Free Agency moves
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on March 17, 2021, 11:10:57 am
A wee bit of shenanigans, I suppose, but since Trent was the top rated OT in the league last season, I have no issues with paying the man whatever he needs.



Seeing as how a guard just got $16 Million a year, hard to deny the best LT $23 Million a year. The O-Line market is going to crash like the Housing Market did in 2008. Completely unsustainable, big correction coming within 3-4 years.


Title: Re: Free Agency moves
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on March 17, 2021, 04:13:59 pm
A wee bit of shenanigans, I suppose, but since Trent was the top rated OT in the league last season, I have no issues with paying the man whatever he needs.

The money isn't the issue for me.  It's the contract length.  This guy is 32 and plays one of the most violent positions in the game.  No way he plays out this entire contract. 


Title: Re: Free Agency moves
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on March 17, 2021, 04:19:44 pm
Looks like Ol' Bill wants the Pats back in the Super Bowl

There is a shocking hot take if I ever saw one.  Belichick wants to win another Superbowl.  Who would have thought. 


Title: Re: Free Agency moves
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on March 17, 2021, 07:56:54 pm
Washington signs Curtis Samuel for 3 years.

It's now Ju Ju or nothing for us.


Title: Re: Free Agency moves
Post by: Tenshot13 on March 18, 2021, 07:55:26 am
Washington signs Curtis Samuel for 3 years.

It's now Ju Ju or nothing for us.
Samuel isn't all that, I don't get the hype.  There are a lot of veteran WRs still available, plus Chase/Smith/Waddle could all be special WRs, better than anyone that was a FA, as none of the FA this year really seemed like true dominant #1 WRs.


Title: Re: Free Agency moves
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on March 18, 2021, 08:30:51 am
Samuel isn't all that, I don't get the hype.  There are a lot of veteran WRs still available, plus Chase/Smith/Waddle could all be special WRs, better than anyone that was a FA, as none of the FA this year really seemed like true dominant #1 WRs.

Signing a WR in free agency would've gave us some flexibility when it comes to the draft, whether we wanted to get Sewell or just trade down for more picks. If we don't get a WR, our options are much more limited. At best, we could trade back with Detroit and draft whichever WR the Eagles don't draft. We still aren't in a bad spot but I was hoping we used our money and our picks to get better, so far we are just adding depth.


Title: Re: Free Agency moves
Post by: CF DolFan on March 18, 2021, 10:28:39 am
Washington signs Curtis Samuel for 3 years.

It's now Ju Ju or nothing for us.
I don't see Ju Ju as a Flores kind of guy. He likes "team first" players and Ju Ju seems to be the exact opposite.


Title: Re: Free Agency moves
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on March 18, 2021, 10:47:26 am
I don't see Ju Ju as a Flores kind of guy. He likes "team first" players and Ju Ju seems to be the exact opposite.

Same here. I think we are hoping Albert Wilson produces in the slot and we draft a WR now.


Title: Re: Free Agency moves
Post by: Tenshot13 on March 18, 2021, 11:20:47 am
Rumor is JuJu talking to the Jets


Title: Re: Free Agency moves
Post by: Dolphster on March 18, 2021, 12:08:51 pm


It's now Ju Ju or nothing for us.

I'm good with nothing in free agency at the WR position.  It is a deep WR draft and as long as the Fins can get one of the top WR's in the 1st round, they can still pick up another good one in the middle rounds.  A lot of really good slot receivers coming out in the draft this year too. 


Title: Re: Free Agency moves
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on March 18, 2021, 12:29:44 pm
I'm good with nothing in free agency at the WR position.  It is a deep WR draft and as long as the Fins can get one of the top WR's in the 1st round, they can still pick up another good one in the middle rounds.  A lot of really good slot receivers coming out in the draft this year too. 

The problem with this is that it limits our draft moves now. We have to stay in the Top 6 or 7 to get Chase or Smith so we can't trade too far back and no chance at Sewell. We also just lost our starting center and look to be replacing him internally. Our 3 biggest needs at O-Line, WR and DE were not addressed in free agency so we have to go with rookies now.

Hope the team really sees something in the guys we currently have.


Title: Re: Free Agency moves
Post by: Sunstroke on March 18, 2021, 01:58:59 pm
I'm good with nothing in free agency at the WR position.  It is a deep WR draft and as long as the Fins can get one of the top WR's in the 1st round, they can still pick up another good one in the middle rounds.  A lot of really good slot receivers coming out in the draft this year too. 

No arguments with this at all, but the more I read about, and watch film of, the more I like a lot of hte tier 2 WRs in this class. As much as we've stared at pictures of Chase, Smith and Pitts in the Montgomery WR Christmas catalog, I really wouldn't have any issues with skipping out on WR until after round 1.

Pennei Sewell needs to be Miami's first pick. If that happens, and we feel we can get one of the tier 2 WRs in round 2, then I'd love to see one of the following players with the second first rounder...

ILB Micah Parson
OC Creed Humphrey
OG/OT Rashawn Slater
DE Jaelen Phillips
DE Kwity Payne
DE Carlos Basham



Title: Re: Free Agency moves
Post by: Dolphster on March 18, 2021, 04:24:52 pm
A lower tier WR that has been projected anywhere from the 4th round to undrafted that I really like is Tayvon Grimes from Florida.  He isn't a speedster but he is tall and strong.   He got stuck behind Toney and gave up a lot of catches to Kyle Pitts (the TE) but on just about any other team he would have been the #1 WR on the team.  I'm not saying he could step in and be the lead WR for the Fins in his rookie season, but I could see him being a more stout DeVante Parker in a year or two. 


Title: Re: Free Agency moves
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on March 19, 2021, 09:20:22 am
Patriots resigned their starting center for 4 years. So, no idea where this leaves Karas. I would be surprised if he would've signed there knowing he would be a backup. He can definitely be a starter in this league.


Title: Re: Free Agency moves
Post by: masterfins on March 19, 2021, 02:25:41 pm
No arguments with this at all, but the more I read about, and watch film of, the more I like a lot of hte tier 2 WRs in this class. As much as we've stared at pictures of Chase, Smith and Pitts in the Montgomery WR Christmas catalog, I really wouldn't have any issues with skipping out on WR until after round 1.

Pennei Sewell needs to be Miami's first pick. If that happens, and we feel we can get one of the tier 2 WRs in round 2, then I'd love to see one of the following players with the second first rounder...

ILB Micah Parson
OC Creed Humphrey
OG/OT Rashawn Slater
DE Jaelen Phillips
DE Kwity Payne
DE Carlos Basham



After Sewell, I'd like to see Miami draft LB Owusu-Koramoah from ND.  Then with their third first round pick (some call it a 2nd rounder, but at 35 your getting a guy graded to go in the 1st round) they can take a WR.


Title: Re: Free Agency moves
Post by: CF DolFan on March 19, 2021, 02:59:43 pm
I have nothing to go off of but I'm betting most of us will have to look up Miami's second first round pick. We like to surprise people ...hahaha.


Title: Re: Free Agency moves
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on March 19, 2021, 03:03:46 pm
I have nothing to go off of but I'm betting most of us will have to look up Miami's second first round pick. We like to surprise people ...hahaha.

After our third 1st round pick last year, you might be right. I hope not because we need our first 4 picks to be starters this season.


Title: Re: Free Agency moves
Post by: Sunstroke on March 19, 2021, 03:05:31 pm
After Sewell, I'd like to see Miami draft LB Owusu-Koramoah from ND.  Then with their third first round pick (some call it a 2nd rounder, but at 35 your getting a guy graded to go in the 1st round) they can take a WR.

 He is an excellent LB, and I'd be fine with that pick. But the reason I prefer Parsons...bigger, stronger and a little more versatile.

Both should make excellent pros though...



Title: Re: Free Agency moves
Post by: Spider-Dan on March 21, 2021, 11:03:42 pm
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