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This is interesting and I expect the team and player to downplay it rather quickly. Corey Davis just signed with the Jets as a WR and he said "Obviously, I'm coming with my understanding that Sam is the guy," Davis told reporters. "That doesn't scare me away at all. I've seen Sam do great things and I have all the belief in him. Whatever direction they decide to go, it's on me to make sure that I'm ready."

I bet they wish he didn't say that as it hurts their leverage with trading away the #2 pick since people assume they are drafting a QB. If they aren't drafting a QB, then Miami has the pick that QB needy teams want. IMO, it would be really dumb for the Jets to stick with Darnold but very beneficial for us so I hope to hear a WR's name called for the #2 pick on draft night. Then, open the bidding. I know Sam has only been in the league for 2 years and is young but he never showed anything that makes you think he is the franchise QB.

I don't know that teams share their draft plans with players so I'm guessing no other team is too excited by his words. If they were going to draft someone and trade Darnold I find it hard to believe they would have told him that.

He was a free agent at the time so I am sure he asked who would be throwing him the ball. Terrible QB usually means terrible WR numbers. If he was already on the roster, 0% chance they tell him who the QB will be.

Reread what he said.  He doesn’t know anything, he is just being a good teammate.  Consider the alternative statement, “of course I expect the Jets to use the number #2 pick to draft a QB”.

If the Jets draft a QB Davis’s words won’t haunt him.  Had he said anything else, and the Jets don’t draft a QB he has a major problem.  Right now he expects Darnold to be the QB and has full confidence in him.  I am pretty sure any Patriots WR will tell you they are looking forward to another season with Newton. 

I can see that being true, but the team still wouldn't want him to say anything to hurt their negotiating power. At least a few GMs will read into this and adjust their trade strategies accordingly. A million things can happen from now until Draft night but I don't think you will see another comment like this about Darnold unil the draft is over.

No they won’t.  If they want the number #2 pick they will trade for it.  If they don’t, they won’t.  A WR saying he is happy with the current QB doesn’t change the value of the pick.  And if the Jets are in love with a guy at #2 the pick isn’t on the market.

It could be they are doing damage control.  They know that they are going to draft one of the QB's the Jaguars don't with the #2 pick and want to take the pressure off that young man.

Reminds me of a similar situation with Bill Parcells when he became the Patriots coach.  He had the #1 overall pick and used it to draft Drew Bledsoe.  Immediately after that pick, season ticket sales started to spike.  Parcells proceeded to tell the media that "he wouldn't play until he was ready" and referred to Bledsoe as a "good, young, backup QB"

IMO Darnold hasn't been given a fair shot; he had no one good to throw the ball to last year.  The coaching sucked.  The rest of the roster was below average.  The GM wouldn't pay anyone last year, so players fled.  For the Jets to draft a QB, when the team has so many other problems, would be just plain stupid.  They could draft Trevor Lawrence and he would have trouble doing anything.  I'm worried the Jets will take Sewell.

Hypothetical question. The one in a million chance that Trevor Lawrence is still on the board when #3 pick rolls around. Do we take him? That would be an entertaining situation, haha.

Only if you can get a team to trade a lower first rounder for Tua.

I honestly don't know but it wouldn't be that simple because if he fell to 3, then something is wrong and we would need to know what. If both the Jags and Jets are just stupid, I would probably draft him and trade Tua to the Eagles or Panthers for their pick right now.

The chance of Lawrence sliding to #3 overall is about the same as the chance of Pennei Sewell falling to round two.

Hey...maybe Miami can get them both?

Yeah, that's the ticket!!

Lawrence falling to 3 would require some brutal injury or he was seen doing coke with Isaiah Wilson while renouncing Jesus. Even then, the Jets would take him.

I think you would have to take him.  But as others have said, that possibility is extremely unlikely.  No way both the Jags and Jets don't take him, nor trade their spot to another team that wants him.

Yeah, just an interesting "what if". What would Miami do? Like I said, one in a million chance of that happening

Anything that could damage Lawrence's stock enough to get him to fall past the first 2 picks would make him radioactive for a team that already has a talented young QB prospect.

We're talking life-threatening car accident, arrested for kiddie porn, tried to overthrow the government... that level of red flag.

I guess we can file the following report under the headine: Can Newton the Starter per NEP WR

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/03/25/nelson-agholor-cam-newton-can-do-whatever-needs-to-be-done/

I am absolutely certain that BB shared the exact plans he has at QB with each FA WR he talked with, this absolutely kills  NE in their trade negotiations. :) :)

I don't see what the fuss is about. They are going to take a QB, that's not the question. The question is will he start next year? Maybe he will and maybe he won't. That's all that's going on here.

It would be very unlikely for the drafted QB to not start Week 1 for the Jets. Darnold isn't some 39 year old veteran who knows his place, he is 23 years old and waNts to play every week. Because of that, he will be traded if the Jets draft a QB.

It would actually be very interesting to see what the market value would be for Darnold.  I'm sure that some teams look at him as not truly tested because of the lack of decent personnel around him on the Jets offense and some teams look at him as not being very good.  I'm sure that enough teams think he hasn't been tested because he was surrounded by bad personnel and coaching that they would pay a pretty hefty trade price for him.   

He's worth a gamble at the right price, but to me the right price is a 3rd or 4th rounder. Rosen got a 2nd rounder because he just had one year in the league, this will be Dranold's 3rd year and while I admit he hasn't been getting a fair shake, he also hasn't risen to any type of occasion either.

If NY drafts a QB, they should just get whatever they can for him. Having him on the team is a huge distraction that isn't worth it. Fitz outplaying Tua didn't help his growth and neither will Sam help the growth of whoever they take.

Traded to whom? Who would want him? Regardless, he's still your starter until someone replaces him. That's what you tell a WR that just joined your team regardless of what the draft may bring.

I'm sure some team would be willing to part with a role player or a low round draft pick for him

Teams that strike out in the draft or trade markets.

The Eagles were desperate to get the #3 pick because they wanted Wilson badly but they came to learn the Jets are going to draft him instead so they went to their backup plan.

So, Lawrence and Wilson are your first 2 picks. I think Trey Lance is going to the Niners and I don't know what the Falcons are doing. They need a QB for the future but if they don't like Fields then they are taking a WR/Sewell. Bengals will not be happy if they take Sewell.

Teams always overpay for Quarterbacks.  I wouldn't be surprised if some team gives the Jets a 2nd rounder for Darnold.  Or at least a 3rd rounder.