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So far, both the Vikings and the Pats OL coaches have refused to get the COVID vaccine and have been relieved of their duties.   Lawyers are going to have a field day with this.

Employers can mandate vaccines as a requirement of employment, it's already been lawyered.

I wish more employers would take this approach. 

Lawyers are going to take dumb people’s money.  Anti-vax isn’t a protected class.

Only dumb lawyers.  These are typically contingency cases.

This is a bit different from other vaccines since it isn't FDA approved and ex-employees can absolutely point to it's ineffectiveness and side effects as a reason not to get it. I'm not saying they will definitely win but this is a lot different from the polio vaccine.

This is what i'm saying, they've ALREADY sued, and lost .. and got fired.

Every case can be a bit different. Some Judges see it differently than others. I think with more evidence coming out of people dying from COVID while double vaccinated like in UK, some judge will rule in their favor. It's just costly and time consuming, so not like we have hundreds of cases a day.

Coach Flores made an very interesting reveal today.

Brian Flores said he will “not... pressure anyone [to get vaccinated], am not going to judge anyone’s commitment to the team. Give them the information, allow them to make their choice.”

Not very surprising to hear him say that. He doesn't want to fire a coach or bench a player and lessen his chances of winning. He's one of the coaches in the NFL that seem to have total blessing from ownership so he won't be pressured into anything.

As long as we make the playoffs this year.

And in doing so he increases the risk of losing game to a forfeit.

Things are changing on a daily basis, today the CDC said the vaccinated should wear masks again despite vaccines supposedly being the end of masks so you don't know what tomorrow is going to bring. I would be quite surprised if any NFL owner would go along with a forfeit because a bunch of healthy 25 year olds got an illness they didn't even know they had.

Exactly the point.  The virus has a 99.7% survival rate.  Healthy men in their 20s and 30s are not going to die from this.

I suspect the new guidelines aren’t about getting the vaccinated to wear a mask but get the unvaccinated to wear one.  The guidelines that the vaccinated could remotely their masks has been an unmitigated disaster because now most of the unvaccinated are not wearing masks and stores/business etc have little they can do other than ask that people respect the honor system.  Going back to everyone being required to wear a mask fixes the problem of those that are neither vaccinated nor obey the signs say unvaccinated people are still required to wear a mask. 

I saw a study in England of 20,000 people who had had Covid and survived. They found that Survivors who get reinfected have lower viral loads which make them less likely to become unwell or spread the virus. I think I know the answer but I have to wonder why no one is talking about this in the US. Lots of people in the NFL have already had it too.

"it's the flu bro"

If you think the survival rate of the virus is an acceptable risk, I have some amazing news for you about the survival rate of the vaccine...

I'm really starting to question the effectiveness/reliability of the tests, and possibly some of the vaccines.  Two months ago Jon Rahm had a golf tournament stolen from him when he tested positive before the final round of a tournament which he had a 4 shot lead.  He sat out a couple weeks; then also got vaccinated.  Now on the eve of going to Tokyo for the Olympics he tested positive again and had to drop out.  So it really makes me wonder whether there are lots of false positives occurring through these tests on people who have both been infected once and been vaccinated.

Again, the only reason why we are testing them at all is because there are still unvaccinated athletes insisting that they be allowed to compete.

Jon Rahm's problem is... people like Jon Rahm.  And that will continue to be the case until the organizers stop coddling the conspiracy nuts & plague rats, and start mandating vaccination as a condition of eligibility.  Then they can end testing altogether.

Maybe you missed it, Jon Rahm WAS vaccinated.

That is exactly my point.

Back in June, Jon Rahm chose to compete without getting vaccinated.  Because of that choice (from him & others like him), he was required to undergo testing at the Memorial, which led to him being DQed for a positive COVID test.

After having a tournament victory snatched away from him, Rahm learned his lesson and decided to get vaccinated... but there are still plenty of players who didn't have a win taken from them and are continuing to refuse vaccination.  And it is because of THOSE players - who still have the same mentality today that Rahm had before the Memorial - that Rahm is still required to undergo testing, even after being vaccinated.  That led to another DQ for him.

If all the competitors in the Olympics were vaccinated, Rahm would not have been tested in the first place.  And he's in no position to complain about the recklessness of others harming his own career.

I know of 4 people who appeared to have died from the vaccine. While I know people who have spent time in the hospital and even ICU at this point I do not know of anyone who has died from Covid.

And of those 4 people, 3 of them personally told CF with their last breath that they wish that they had paid more attention to Donald Trump when he warned them about the liberals' insidious vaccination plot.

I doubt Donald Trump would have been too high on most of their agendas. All were perfectly healthy until getting second shots. 2 died eerily similar  from a virus that attacked their heart in 2 different states. The other two were "heart attacks".  One of them a black democrat about 30 years of age and one was probably more liberal than you as she was professional dancer in New York. I would have never spoken politics with her but she was a sweet heart that was in great physical shape until her husband found her unresponsive.

You didn't diagnose them, and I'm 100% certain that the doctors who did concluded that they did not die "from the vaccine."
But I bet that's all a cOnSpIrAcY!

I don't know anyone who was killed on 9/11, but I still believe people died in the attack.

Let's get straight to the point, here:
How many Americans do you believe have been killed by the COVID vaccine?
How many Americans do you believe have been killed by COVID?

Stop beating around the bush and say what you really mean.

Who are they?

Do you know them personally?  What are their names?

I know 2 personally. Went to high school with them. they both died unexpectedly from a viral heart infection shortly after receiving the second shot. One lived in New York City and the other in South Carolina. The one in NY was a health freak and a professional dancer. She was in great shape. The other was just an average housewife who didn't have any known issues.

The other two are relatives of people I know pretty well. One is a 32 year old black guy who had a heart attack out of nowhere and died within 3 days of his second shot. The other is a cousin of a good friend who passed with similar circumstances.

With that said over the weekend I did lose a guy I have known since high school. He was anti vax and passed away this past weekend from Covid issues. It sucks to say but he gambled and lost. No different than a person who jumps out of a plane. It's a risk even under the best circumstances.

2 others close friends who were in ICU and PCU were released this weekend. I get that it's a horrible sickness even having been in the hospital myself.  

CF DolFan personally knows four people who have died from the vaccine.  On the other hand the CDC knows of three people whose death is linked to the vaccine. 

I am calling bullshit on CF’s numbers.

hahahah .... you calling bullshit on anyone in here is laughable at best. You are one of the angriest liberals I have had the pleasure of knowing. I'm not so sure why you are so miserable but you surely are and freaking out all the time isn't going to help you.  Add in the fact I couldn't care less of your opinion and I'll be just fine.

CDC is run by Bill Gates. CDC changes its mind every other week. CDC doesn't mention survivors and how high their rates are against covid while European countries are doing many studies. CDC is a propaganda of the rich people running it just like the UN. CF is just a guy making an educated guess based on his experience and understanding. I don't "know" anything but it sure as hell looks pretty suspicious when 2 perfectly healthy women suddenly dies from a viral infection of the heart very shortly after getting second shot.  

Lot's of people going to hospital for the vaccine too but you have to look for it because CNN sure as hell isn't going to report on it.

viral infection from a vaccine that has no viruses ? weird how that works .. maybe immaculate virus conception ?

Speaking of the CDC. Did you see our angry friend Maxine Waters urge the CDC to ignore Supreme Court and extend eviction ban.

I must have missed the memo, can we just all start ignoring SC rulings and do whatever the fuck we want? I mean, she must know that the only thing that can override the SCOTUS is actual legislation. Which if I'm not mistaken, is actually her job.

I only bring it up here because it seems liberals want to enforce laws and court rulings that don't exist and ignore laws and court rulings that do exist. The left claims to be the party that's educated and based on facts, but then turn around and elect a bunch of dummies and morons. Mmmkay, whatever..........