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Title: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on December 16, 2021, 06:47:39 am
I figured that since it is near the end of the season, we could get started on which coaches will not have jobs come the Monday after week 18.

So far, the Jacksonville Jaguars have already cut Urban Meyer loose after reports that he kicked his kicker in the leg during practice.

I knew the Urban Meyer experiment was going to fail and it did so in grand fashion.   College coaches rarely succeed in the NFL these days, especially ones who run gimmicks like a spread option offense.


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on December 16, 2021, 08:33:48 am
Meyer kicked the kicker early in the seaosn and the team knew about it, so that was obviously used as an excuse to fire him so they wouldn't owe him money. Maybe Khan can say he didn't know about it until recently? However, he would have to prove that in court so he better not have an email about it with his name on it.

Urban was an unmitigated disaster. It's one thing to not being good enough, it's another to be one of the biggest assholes in the league and that's saying somthing. The facty that we lost to this team still makes me think Flores should've been fired that day.


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on January 09, 2022, 10:24:11 am
After yesterday's meltdown in Denver, the Broncos have fired coach Vic Fangio


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 09, 2022, 12:01:27 pm
After yesterday's meltdown in Denver, the Broncos have fired coach Vic Fangio

If you can't go for it on 4th down when the season is already over, then you don't have the guts to be an NFL coach.


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 09, 2022, 12:06:31 pm
Mike Zimmer in Minnesota is all but gone.

The most interesting scenario is in Seattle. They just said they won't trade Wilson but him and Carroll are now a disaster together with Pete just refusing to put the offense behind him anymore and instead relying on the run. An incredibly stupid move from the egomaniac. They can't co-exist for another lost season so if Wilson stays, I think Carroll leaves.


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on January 09, 2022, 12:11:16 pm
Broncos need a new coach.


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on January 09, 2022, 07:54:28 pm
Bears ownership has summoned Nagy for a meeting in Chicago tomorrow morning.  I'll bet my house and my business on him walking out of that meeting with a pink slip.


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on January 10, 2022, 09:29:51 am
^^^

Looks like I would've won the bet!!   Matt Nagy has been fired and so has GM Ryan Pace.  Chicago is cleaning house.   Also Minnesota is following suit as coach Mike Zimmer and GM Rick Spielman (bad memories of him) have been relieved of their duties.


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 10, 2022, 10:04:58 am
Current Job Openings:

Miami
Chicago
Denver
Jacksonville
Minnesota

Potential Openings:

Giants
Seattle

As it currently stands, Miami is the most attractive landing spot right now followed by Denver.


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 10, 2022, 12:24:42 pm
It's not official yet, but the Giants might be keeping Joe Judge. Few reporters on Twitter say they are leaning towards it and the fact that it hasn't happened yet is pretty alarming for their fanbase.


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: fyo on January 10, 2022, 03:10:29 pm
^ NYG keeping Judge is downright scary. He's... horrible. And listening to him... he just seems to be completely divorced from reality.


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on January 10, 2022, 06:21:54 pm
It's not official yet, but the Giants might be keeping Joe Judge. Few reporters on Twitter say they are leaning towards it and the fact that it hasn't happened yet is pretty alarming for their fanbase.

The Giants are going to implode next year.   The players hate Judge and want him gone.   Look for a player mutiny and for Judge to be fired mid season.


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: masterfins on January 10, 2022, 06:46:26 pm
I think once a new GM is hired Judge will be gone, doesn't make since to keep him dangling though.


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 11, 2022, 02:03:33 pm
I think once a new GM is hired Judge will be gone, doesn't make since to keep him dangling though.

The top candidates will be gone by the time they hire a new GM, so I think he stays. Giants ownership is notoriously stubborn and dumb, at this point it would be a shock if he was fired.


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on January 11, 2022, 05:40:02 pm
Giants ownership gave in to the players.  Judge has been relieved of his duties


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 11, 2022, 07:57:22 pm
Giants ownership gave in to the players.  Judge has been reopened of his duties

This was very surprising since it should've happened yesterday morning. Judge was an awful coach but very disrespectful to him to keep him hanging for an extra day just to fire him anyway. Ownership is a disaster but it can be a decent landing spot.

The Belichick coaching tree needs to go away forever. He does not produce head coaches, he produces assistants to help him win and that is absolutely fine but teams need to realize this by now.


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 12, 2022, 03:24:58 pm
Jags are interviewing Bill O'Brien and this team should be relegated to the ACC. Back to back worst records in the NFL and now this. You have to punish this type of incompetence.


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on January 13, 2022, 12:36:03 pm
Jags are interviewing Bill O'Brien and this team should be relegated to the ACC. Back to back worst records in the NFL and now this. You have to punish this type of incompetence.

If I were them, I'd move to St. Louis or San Antonio.  The fan base is very fickle and they don't have the history that Miami and Tampa have in the state of Florida.   Plus those two cities are aching for football teams of their own.


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: dolphins4life on January 13, 2022, 12:52:22 pm
Jags are interviewing Bill O'Brien and this team should be relegated to the ACC. Back to back worst records in the NFL and now this. You have to punish this type of incompetence.

What about Miami's incompetence?  Should that be punished?


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on January 13, 2022, 04:30:36 pm
Texans have announced they are parting ways with David Culley after one season.   They have immediately scheduled an interview with Flores and let it be known he is their top target.  I see this as a move to keep Watson.


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: Pappy13 on January 13, 2022, 04:38:52 pm
Texans have announced they are parting ways with David Culley after one season.   They have immediately scheduled an interview with Flores and let it be known he is their top target.  I see this as a move to keep Watson.
The problem with that is that Watson didn't have a problem with the Texans coaching staff from my understanding it was with ownership and that's not changing. Now maybe hiring Flores would change his mind, but I wouldn't count on it. I think those bridges are pretty well burned going both ways.

Tell you one thing if Flores does become the coach of Houston, you can forget about Miami trading Tua for Watson. LOL


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 16, 2022, 02:29:06 pm
Pete Carroll is coming back to coach Seattle next year. It was expected but not guaranteed. GM is coming back too. Their issue is Russell Wilson wants out if Pete stays and they just wasted a whole year because they couldn't get along and Carroll is stubborn and thinks Seattle should run first and not utilize Wilson.

It's a bad situation that will repeat itself in 2022 if Wilson is not traded.


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 20, 2022, 08:46:06 pm
Josh McCown has been interviewed again for the Texans HC vacancy. First time was last year to replace O'Brien.

I have no idea what they are doing. They seem to get worse by the day.



Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on January 20, 2022, 10:07:16 pm
Josh McCown has been interviewed again for the Texans HC vacancy. First time was last year to replace O'Brien.

I have no idea what they are doing. They seem to get worse by the day.

Backup players tend to make better coaches


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: CF DolFan on January 21, 2022, 07:35:01 am
Backup players tend to make better coaches
In every sport. Lot's of things come easy to stars who have exceptional talent but the ones who have to work harder to compete see the game at a different level than those same stars who dominated. 


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on January 21, 2022, 08:03:46 am
In every sport. Lot's of things come easy to stars who have exceptional talent but the ones who have to work harder to compete see the game at a different level than those same stars who dominated. 

Exactly.   They are the ones sitting on the bench and using that time to study the game and see how the stars make their moves.  While they can't necessarily duplicate said moves, they can teach others how to do so.


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 21, 2022, 08:58:55 am
Backup players tend to make better coaches

I agree, but he never coached above the High School level and isn't even officially retired. Hire him as part of the staff if they want but not HC, that's ridiculous even by Texans standards.

I am slowly starting to think Watson will be on the bench for another year as Houston doesn't get the 4 1st rounders plus more they want.


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: masterfins on January 24, 2022, 08:29:21 pm
I'm kind of surprised that not a single HC has been named yet with so many openings.  For me it underscores the fact that there aren't any great choices out there.


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on January 25, 2022, 08:15:18 am
I'm kind of surprised that not a single HC has been named yet with so many openings.  For me it underscores the fact that there aren't any great choices out there.

Could be that some teams may be locked in to candidates whose current teams are still playing (or just got eliminated).   Both of Tampa's and Buffalo's coordinators were up for gigs.  You may see some positions being filled.

IMO, interviews and hires should not be allowed to happen until after the Super Bowl and they should push the start of free agency back a couple weeks to make up for that.


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 25, 2022, 08:36:01 am
Could be that some teams may be locked in to candidates whose current teams are still playing (or just got eliminated).   Both of Tampa's and Buffalo's coordinators were up for gigs.  You may see some positions being filled.

IMO, interviews and hires should not be allowed to happen until after the Super Bowl and they should push the start of free agency back a couple weeks to make up for that.

This is probably it. The Bills have two head coaching candidates and I think Daboll will be hired very soon. Frazier......eh. Not just because of that horrid game but because Buffalo usually gave up lots of points against top defenses.

McCarthy from San Fran is still in it too. I think the lesser coordinator names are in limbo until the Top 2-3 picks are taken, then everyone settles for the rest.


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: Pappy13 on January 25, 2022, 10:23:07 am
I'm kind of surprised that not a single HC has been named yet with so many openings.  For me it underscores the fact that there aren't any great choices out there.

You have to give the people up for those jobs a chance to talk to whichever teams they want to talk to and make a decision. Just because a candidate has talked with your team doesn't mean they are done interviewing.


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 25, 2022, 02:14:32 pm
Sean Payton is stepping away from the Saints. He is under contract so this sounds like a retirement. He can't leave for 2 seasons and then say "I'm back!" and make them fire the current coach.

The Saints gig is really not a good one. The team is in cap hell and have some sort of money laundeirng deal with Taysom Hill and you don't want to be around that when the IRS raids your practice. So, despite being very late to the game for a coaching search, they just aren't a desirable location. Someone will definitely take it if they miss out on the other gigs but you can forget about the Dabolls or Pedersens for this one.


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on January 25, 2022, 03:43:58 pm
Sean Payton is stepping away from the Saints. He is under contract so this sounds like a retirement. He can't leave for 2 seasons and then say "I'm back!" and make them fire the current coach.

The Saints gig is really not a good one. The team is in cap hell and have some sort of money laundeirng deal with Taysom Hill and you don't want to be around that when the IRS raids your practice. So, despite being very late to the game for a coaching search, they just aren't a desirable location. Someone will definitely take it if they miss out on the other gigs but you can forget about the Dabolls or Pedersens for this one.

$74 million over the cap.   How in the world did they manage to do that??   They are going to have to trade away pieces of their defense at fire sale rates.


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 25, 2022, 03:48:22 pm
$74 million over the cap.   How in the world did they manage to do that??   They are going to have to trade away pieces of their defense at fire sale rates.

They've been doing it for awhile, same as the Rams. They have to have the best lawyers and accountants because it seems like the bill has been due for half a decade now and they're still fine. Eventually, maybe even this offseason they will have a fire sale and start over, especially now that Payton is gone. Why delude yourselves into thinking you can contend with Taysom Hill? Think they have a few O-Line pieces we would be interested in.


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on January 25, 2022, 03:54:36 pm
They've been doing it for awhile, same as the Rams. They have to have the best lawyers and accountants because it seems like the bill has been due for half a decade now and they're still fine. Eventually, maybe even this offseason they will have a fire sale and start over, especially now that Payton is gone. Why delude yourselves into thinking you can contend with Taysom Hill? Think they have a few O-Line pieces we would be interested in.

They mortgaged their futures heavily and eventually, the piper will come to collect his due for both teams.  Especially the Rams with all their star power.   They miss the train this year, there might not be another one for a long long time.


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 26, 2022, 08:42:26 am
Looks like Byron Leftwich will coach the Jaguars, should be announced today.

Good hire for them.


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: CF DolFan on January 26, 2022, 09:33:38 am
Looks like Byron Leftwich will coach the Jaguars, should be announced today.

Good hire for them.
I was a Leftwich fan coming out of college but I don't know if I'm a fan of this. His best days were coaching Brady where we know that Brady was the one calling most of the shots. I hope it is the right hire because Jax and even Lawrence kind of deserve it.


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on January 26, 2022, 09:41:06 am
I was a Leftwich fan coming out of college but I don't know if I'm a fan of this. His best days were coaching Brady where we know that Brady was the one calling most of the shots. I hope it is the right hire because Jax and even Lawrence kind of deserve it.

Now we'll see what he's really made of.   And where better than the city where he was a starting QB for a number of years.   He's in a good position with a young franchise QB and the biggest prize in the draft.  The question is will they draft Neal to protect Lawrence or Thibodeaux to generate a pass rush?  Or trade down a spot and pick up more picks?


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 26, 2022, 09:45:16 am
I was a Leftwich fan coming out of college but I don't know if I'm a fan of this. His best days were coaching Brady where we know that Brady was the one calling most of the shots. I hope it is the right hire because Jax and even Lawrence kind of deserve it.

He learned under some good people and I'm sure he learned under Brady a little as well. For the Jags, it's probably the best hire they were going to get. It's not an attractive job opening with all of their turmoil so they never were going to get Daboll or McDaniel. Buys them some goodwill with the fans too after the whole Meyer disaster.


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on January 26, 2022, 09:24:06 pm
Rumor has it that Brian Daboll is the favorite for the Dolphins job.


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 27, 2022, 08:32:04 am
Broncos are signing Packers OC Nathaniel Hacket to be their HC. He didn't call the plays but everyone praises him. This move was definitely done with Rodgers and Adams in the mind of the Broncos.

It would be a Peyton Manning situation all over again and the Broncos would be the heavy favorites to win the Superbowl.


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 27, 2022, 12:00:57 pm
Flurry of news right now:

Dan Quinn tells teams he is staying with Cowboys. That seems to be the most shocking since he presumably had a choice of teams to choose from. Maybe Jerry Jones promised him the HC job if McCarthy doesn't win a playoff game this year?

Also, the Bears hired Colts DC Matt Eberflus. They interviewed Daboll twice so this makes me think he turned them down and they scrambled for their next choice.

I think we see some more hires before the day is done, the dominos are falling now. Daboll might pick between the Giants or Dolphins today. Depends on what team wants it more.


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on January 27, 2022, 12:33:07 pm
Also, the Byron Leftwich deal in Jacksonville has fallen through.   Apparently there was some language in the contract offer that Leftwich didn't like, mainly working with GM Trent Ballke who is known around the league as a real asshole.


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 27, 2022, 12:59:28 pm
Also, the Byron Leftwich deal in Jacksonville has fallen through.   Apparently there was some language in the contract offer that Leftwich didn't like, mainly working with GM Trent Ballke who is known around the league as a real asshole.

Yeah, from what I see so far, he basically said I won't take the job unless Trent is fired. Once this is confirmed, the Jaguars are doomed and probably won't get anyone of worth to take the job. For a guy to turn down his first head coaching gig over this carries a lot of weight.


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: CF DolFan on January 27, 2022, 02:18:19 pm
Being reported out of Jacksonville ... the Jaguars are reportedly “close” to hiring Arizona Cardinals Vice President of Pro Scouting Adrian Wilson as their new general manager at the request of Leftwich


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 27, 2022, 02:51:19 pm
Being reported out of Jacksonville ... the Jaguars are reportedly “close” to hiring Arizona Cardinals Vice President of Pro Scouting Adrian Wilson as their new general manager at the request of Leftwich

That would absolutely be the right call. I believe Hrabaugh couldn't work with him either and that's why he left. Jaguars wnership needs to hire the right people and the owner needs to focus on AEW with his son. Better yet, don't screw that up too. Just leave.


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on January 27, 2022, 04:21:42 pm
Being reported out of Jacksonville ... the Jaguars are reportedly “close” to hiring Arizona Cardinals Vice President of Pro Scouting Adrian Wilson as their new general manager at the request of Leftwich

That would absolutely be the right call. I believe Hrabaugh couldn't work with him either and that's why he left. Jaguars wnership needs to hire the right people and the owner needs to focus on AEW with his son. Better yet, don't screw that up too. Just leave.

And it makes sense as the two have worked together previously.  Leftwich was under Bruce Arians in Arizona.   


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: Downunder Dolphan on January 28, 2022, 05:33:54 am
Looks like the Head Coach signings have begun:

Chicago Bears to hire former Colts defensive coordinator Matt Eberflus:
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/bears-to-hire-former-colts-defensive-coordinator-matt-eberflus-as-new-head-coach/
https://www.nfl.com/news/matt-eberflus-bears-hire-colts-dc-as-head-coach

Denver Broncos hiring Packers OC Nathaniel Hackett:
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/broncos-hiring-packers-oc-nathaniel-hackett-as-next-head-coach-replacing-vic-fangio/
https://www.nfl.com/news/broncos-finalizing-deal-to-make-nathaniel-hackett-new-head-coach


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 28, 2022, 04:25:29 pm
Texans are enamored with Josh McCown and he is a finalist for their HC job, some writers are saying he is the favorite. What else could be said about the Texans at this point?


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 28, 2022, 07:12:24 pm
Giants hire Brian Daboll as HC and "Miami is in no hurry to find their next head coach".

Well, everyone else is in a hurry to hire theirs so what the fuck are we doing? Going to end up with some RB Coach when this is all said and done.


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 30, 2022, 02:18:00 pm
Josh McDaniels is going to be the Raiders HC. I really have no comment other than this.


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on January 30, 2022, 08:11:47 pm
Josh McDaniels is going to be the Raiders HC. I really have no comment other than this.

He decided he was not going to be the "head coach in waiting" in New England and took his second shot at being a head coach.


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on February 07, 2022, 01:13:36 pm
NFL Network is reporting that Lovie Smith is very likely to be the next Head Coach of the Texans. Up until now, Lovie was not even mentioned for anything.

If I may throw out a guess, I think a certain league official went over to a certain team owner and said "If you hire that white QB with no coaching experience whatsoever over ANY MINORITY BUT BRIAN FLORES, the officiating will not be kind to you for the next 10 years".

And to be fair, McCown has no business being a Head Coach right now over guys like Lovie or Caldwell anyway. I just think with Flores somehow still being a finalist for the Texans job, the league let the team know what a bad idea that was and they need to hire someone else who won't add to a lawsuit.


Title: Re: 2021 Coaching Carousel
Post by: masterfins on February 07, 2022, 06:58:28 pm
NFL Network is reporting that Lovie Smith is very likely to be the next Head Coach of the Texans. Up until now, Lovie was not even mentioned for anything.

If I may throw out a guess, I think a certain league official went over to a certain team owner and said "If you hire that white QB with no coaching experience whatsoever over ANY MINORITY BUT BRIAN FLORES, the officiating will not be kind to you for the next 10 years".

And to be fair, McCown has no business being a Head Coach right now over guys like Lovie or Caldwell anyway. I just think with Flores somehow still being a finalist for the Texans job, the league let the team know what a bad idea that was and they need to hire someone else who won't add to a lawsuit.

LOL I was thinking someone from the league office was probably telling the Texans to hire Flores, and in return they would limit/eliminate the games Watson will be suspended for once he actually goes to take the field.  If I were the Texans I would suit up Watson just to force the league to start his suspension games clock.