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Title: Antonio Brown and Mental Health
Post by: dolphins4life on January 02, 2022, 11:31:58 pm
I think we should organize

1) A post a photo of yourself without a shirt on day

or

2) A take your shirt off at work day

To raise awareness for Mental Health


Title: Re: Antonio Brown and Mental Health
Post by: Phishfan on January 03, 2022, 08:56:36 am
Fuck thzt guy.


Title: Re: Antonio Brown and Mental Health
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on January 03, 2022, 09:15:47 am
Antonio Brown is a sad case.   He's not right in the head and hasn't been ever since that hit by Vontaze Burfict in the playoffs in 2014.   He's suffering from CTE and it's now getting worse and spilling over onto the field. 

CTE is no joke.   It makes people do shit that they wouldn't do if they were thinking rationally.   I watched a buddy of mine suffer through it and he just wasted away doing irrational stuff to the point where he took his own life.   It's common in NFL players because of the hits they take every Sunday.   Our bodies weren't made to absorb hits like that constantly.   And even though there is a concussion protocol in the NFL, it doesn't take into account the other shots to the head that don't cause concussions.

Unfortunately CTE is not insanity and he's still responsible for his own actions.  I don't think any NFL team will go near him now.   Don't bash him, say a prayer for him.



Title: Re: Antonio Brown and Mental Health
Post by: CF DolFan on January 03, 2022, 11:48:05 am
Brown suffers more from having everyone around him kiss his butt. He will never get help because no one can or will tell him the truth.


Title: Re: Antonio Brown and Mental Health
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on January 03, 2022, 12:31:01 pm
Antonio Brown is a sad case.   He's not right in the head and hasn't been ever since that hit by Vontaze Burfict in the playoffs in 2014.   He's suffering from CTE and it's now getting worse and spilling over onto the field. 

CTE is no joke.   It makes people do shit that they wouldn't do if they were thinking rationally.   I watched a buddy of mine suffer through it and he just wasted away doing irrational stuff to the point where he took his own life.   It's common in NFL players because of the hits they take every Sunday.   Our bodies weren't made to absorb hits like that constantly.   And even though there is a concussion protocol in the NFL, it doesn't take into account the other shots to the head that don't cause concussions.

Unfortunately CTE is not insanity and he's still responsible for his own actions.  I don't think any NFL team will go near him now.   Don't bash him, say a prayer for him.



Was he expelled from Florida International University, because of a hit he took 5 years later?  He was an entitled athlete his entire life.


Title: Re: Antonio Brown and Mental Health
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 03, 2022, 04:59:34 pm
Antonio Brown is a sad case.   He's not right in the head and hasn't been ever since that hit by Vontaze Burfict in the playoffs in 2014.   He's suffering from CTE and it's now getting worse and spilling over onto the field. 

CTE is no joke.   It makes people do shit that they wouldn't do if they were thinking rationally.   I watched a buddy of mine suffer through it and he just wasted away doing irrational stuff to the point where he took his own life.   It's common in NFL players because of the hits they take every Sunday.   Our bodies weren't made to absorb hits like that constantly.   And even though there is a concussion protocol in the NFL, it doesn't take into account the other shots to the head that don't cause concussions.

Unfortunately CTE is not insanity and he's still responsible for his own actions.  I don't think any NFL team will go near him now.   Don't bash him, say a prayer for him.



No one in the NFL will ever truly address CTE because it will cost them money.


Title: Re: Antonio Brown and Mental Health
Post by: stinkfish on January 03, 2022, 05:04:00 pm
NFL can only do so much to protect the players anyway. It's just the nature of the game.


Title: Re: Antonio Brown and Mental Health
Post by: pondwater on January 03, 2022, 07:24:21 pm
No one in the NFL will ever truly address CTE because it will cost them money.
This isn't the 70s and 80s anymore. These are fully grown adults that know that the hits can cause CTE. They're getting paid ridiculous amounts of money and they choose to accept that risk. No one is holding a gun to their head to play past their initial contract. Hell, as per the league's Collective Bargaining Agreement established in March 2020, NFL players’ minimum salary was $660,000 in the 2021 season. If you play 3-4 seasons and retire with $2-3 million, that's more than enough money to live comfortably the rest of your life. Keep in mind, that doesn't include interest, dividends, or market gains over time.

If a player decides to play longer for more money, then he accepts the risks. I can't feel sorry for people who are greedy and ignore the risks to their health. Decisions have consequences.


Title: Re: Antonio Brown and Mental Health
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on January 04, 2022, 08:24:37 am
Was he expelled from Florida International University, because of a hit he took 5 years later?  He was an entitled athlete his entire life.

But before that hit, he never acted like a narcissistic asshole.  He acted like a normal athlete.   CTE is no joke.  It caused one of the best linebackers to ever play the game to take his own life, and he was inducted into the Hall of Fame posthumously.

You being a Pats fan, I know you will always have a place in your heart for Tom Brady.   I suggest you read this:

https://sports.yahoo.com/why-was-tom-brady-so-empathetic-toward-antonio-brown-maybe-because-hes-seen-teammates-struggle-before-231332221.html


Title: Re: Antonio Brown and Mental Health
Post by: Dolphster on January 05, 2022, 08:13:23 am
The thing that I wonder about Antonio Brown is which came first, having mental health issues or being an astounding douchebag.  If he had the mental health issues first, then I feel for him.  If he was an asshole first, I don't. 


Title: Re: Antonio Brown and Mental Health
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on January 05, 2022, 08:49:48 am
So now the story gets interesting.   His friends encouraged him to go to a doctor in New York after the game on his own and an MRI confirmed his ankle injury was reaggravated to the point where he was in serious pain.   That may be why the Bucs haven't cut him yet.   Things could get very ugly in Tampa and may cost Arians his job.


Title: Re: Antonio Brown and Mental Health
Post by: CF DolFan on January 05, 2022, 10:47:07 am
The thing that I wonder about Antonio Brown is which came first, having mental health issues or being an astounding douchebag.  If he had the mental health issues first, then I feel for him.  If he was an asshole first, I don't. 
He's always been an ass. He's treated people like crap since college and probably even before. For whatever reason he has a long history of refusing to pay people that do work for him. He's well known to South Florida police. He may have CTE but that isn't his only issue.


Title: Re: Antonio Brown and Mental Health
Post by: Phishfan on January 05, 2022, 01:20:50 pm
So now the story gets interesting.   His friends encouraged him to go to a doctor in New York after the game on his own and an MRI confirmed his ankle injury was reaggravated to the point where he was in serious pain.   That may be why the Bucs haven't cut him yet.   Things could get very ugly in Tampa and may cost Arians his job.

The sure is a nice video of all that pain while he bounced through the end zone  stripping


Title: Re: Antonio Brown and Mental Health
Post by: Dave Gray on January 05, 2022, 01:28:25 pm
So now the story gets interesting.   His friends encouraged him to go to a doctor in New York after the game on his own and an MRI confirmed his ankle injury was reaggravated to the point where he was in serious pain.   That may be why the Bucs haven't cut him yet.   Things could get very ugly in Tampa and may cost Arians his job.

I find this hard to believe.  Lose his job for what?

I don't think I'm connecting these dots.


Title: Re: Antonio Brown and Mental Health
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on January 05, 2022, 03:08:55 pm
I find this hard to believe.  Lose his job for what?

I don't think I'm connecting these dots.

For insisting a player play injured.   You can't do that in today's league.


Title: Re: Antonio Brown and Mental Health
Post by: Phishfan on January 05, 2022, 09:34:55 pm
Arians isn't losing his job.


Title: Re: Antonio Brown and Mental Health
Post by: Downunder Dolphan on January 06, 2022, 06:13:13 am
Brown has issued a lengthy statement through his legal team about being ordered to play injured, and being told he was cut on the sideline before he stormed out.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/antonio-brown-breaks-silence-on-leaving-buccaneers-accuses-team-of-cover-up-regarding-injured-ankle/

It's possible this is going to get even more ugly, especially for the Bucs if the guts of Brown's statement is proved true.


Title: Re: Antonio Brown and Mental Health
Post by: Dolphster on January 06, 2022, 07:40:26 am
As Phishfan pointed out, Brown didn't look too injured when he was jumping up and down, waving his arms at the crowd and throwing his gloves up into the stands.  Matter of fact, I didn't even notice a limp as he was dancing into the tunnel. 


Title: Re: Antonio Brown and Mental Health
Post by: CF DolFan on January 06, 2022, 07:42:20 am
I was listening to some talking heads this morning and they said if Brown hadn't already been involved with so many absolutely crazy stories then people might have some sympathy for him. As it is Tampa will get the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise. Makes sense to me.


Title: Re: Antonio Brown and Mental Health
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on January 06, 2022, 08:16:32 am
I was listening to some talking heads this morning and they said if Brown hadn't already been involved with so many absolutely crazy stories then people might have some sympathy for him. As it is Tampa will get the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise. Makes sense to me.

The medical report is proof enough.

As Phishfan pointed out, Brown didn't look too injured when he was jumping up and down, waving his arms at the crowd and throwing his gloves up into the stands.  Matter of fact, I didn't even notice a limp as he was dancing into the tunnel. 

There's a big difference between jogging as opposed to running full speed, making cuts, and getting tackled.   

It's possible this is going to get even more ugly, especially for the Bucs if the guts of Brown's statement is proved true.

It could get ugly.   Arians could be forced out and so could the Bucs training staff.   And if Goodell gets a bug up his ass, the Bucs could be stripped of a draft pick.


Title: Re: Antonio Brown and Mental Health
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on January 06, 2022, 09:10:08 am
The medical report isn’t getting the coach fired.  Bucs want to withhold Browns week 18 check, recover some of the signing bonus and fine him for behavior detrimental to the team.  The compromise is Brown getting paid as if he went on IR for week 18.


Title: Re: Antonio Brown and Mental Health
Post by: CF DolFan on January 06, 2022, 09:17:25 am
The medical report is proof enough.
So his ankle is hurt or it isn't. There is no proof he was abused. "do you think you can suck it up and play?" doesn't equate to being forced but if you're a known crazy person it might be to you.

There's a big difference between jogging as opposed to running full speed, making cuts, and getting tackled.   
He was jumping too. Any way you look at it his walk out doesn't help his case he was in so much pain he needs immediate surgery.

It could get ugly.   Arians could be forced out and so could the Bucs training staff.   And if Goodell gets a bug up his ass, the Bucs could be stripped of a draft pick.
I think that's pretty extreme. Brown has had a bunch of missteps in the NFL. The beloved Arians says Brown didn't say anything about being too injured to play. He says just refused to go out and play ... which kind of does fit something Brown would do in a losing game. Out of this story I think most people would believe Arians many times before they would Brown.  


Title: Re: Antonio Brown and Mental Health
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on January 06, 2022, 10:37:19 am
Now Brown is doing his utmost to alienate his one and only ally - Brady.  Not a smart move, a few Bucs players *might* have taken Browns side over Arians particularly if Brady is defending Brown.  Nobody is picking a fight with the QB to defend Brown.


Title: Re: Antonio Brown and Mental Health
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 06, 2022, 12:43:48 pm
Brown says that he couldn't go back into the game because his ankle was too messed up. Arians then started yelling at him and screamed "YOU'RE DONE" while making a throat slash gesture. This is the NFL in 2021, there had to have been 900 cameras throughout the stadium. So, find footage of them talking on the sideline and see who is telling the truth.


Title: Re: Antonio Brown and Mental Health
Post by: CF DolFan on January 06, 2022, 03:21:39 pm
He snuck in some Onlyfans girl who spent Saturday night with him. Apparently he let her know something big was going to happen during the game so it seems like he planned out the whole thing.


Title: Re: Antonio Brown and Mental Health
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on January 06, 2022, 06:44:46 pm
Two versions of events.

1. Brown told the coach he was hurt and couldn’t play.  Coach told him he was being cut if he didn’t play injured, Brown stormed off.

2. Brown was upset he was being targeted enough and refused to go in because the play called was one where he wasn’t the first read.  Coach told him he was being cut if he didn’t play his assigned role.  Brown stormed off.

Based on both men’s past actions and behaviors I know which version I find more likely.


Title: Re: Antonio Brown and Mental Health
Post by: Phishfan on January 06, 2022, 07:04:05 pm
He snuck in some Onlyfans girl who spent Saturday night with him. Apparently he let her know something big was going to happen during the game so it seems like he planned out the whole thing.

She licked a toilet seat. I take it all back, he is crazy.


Title: Re: Antonio Brown and Mental Health
Post by: CF DolFan on January 07, 2022, 05:35:14 pm
She licked a toilet seat. I take it all back, he is crazy.
hahaha ... a public toilet seat at that. ewwww.

Bruce Ariens has a longstanding reputation for being straight forward tell it like it is kind of a guy. Most people are going to belive him way before Brown.


Title: Re: Antonio Brown and Mental Health
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on January 07, 2022, 06:12:08 pm
Apparently he let her know something big was going to happen during the game so it seems like he planned out the whole thing.

I don’t take that as proof he planned it in advance because it also advances the claim he was upset about his lack of targets.  He had promised a bimbo that he was going to have a big game and was pissed he wasn’t getting the production to back that up.  Plus Brown doesn’t strike me as the kinda a guy who does a lot of planning and strategizing. 


Title: Re: Antonio Brown and Mental Health
Post by: Spider-Dan on January 07, 2022, 10:04:17 pm
Just a reminder that personal attacks on other posters are not allowed.
I have cleaned up this thread accordingly.