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Title: Divisional Weekend
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on January 21, 2022, 01:32:48 pm
Titans over Bengals
Packers over 49ers
Rams over Bucs
Chiefs over Bills

The line on the Bucs/Rams game is flopping like a fish out of water.   It opened with the Bucs -3.5, then went to the Rams -2, and now it's back to the Bucs -2.5.  I'm guessing there's heavy action in Vegas on this one.  


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: Dave Gray on January 21, 2022, 02:02:07 pm
It opened with the Bucs -3.5, then went to the Rams -2, and now it's back to the Bucs -2.5.  I'm guessing there's heavy action in Vegas on this one. 

That doesn't appear crazy to me at all.  1.5 variance at its greatest point is a small change.

Opening lines mean little because of variables, COVID, weather, etc.  As you get closer to the game, lines close in.  To open at line at 3.5 and have it at 2.5 at kickoff is nothing.


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: fyo on January 21, 2022, 02:26:04 pm
That doesn't appear crazy to me at all.  1.5 variance at its greatest point is a small change.

Opening lines mean little because of variables, COVID, weather, etc.  As you get closer to the game, lines close in.  To open at line at 3.5 and have it at 2.5 at kickoff is nothing.

It swung 5.5 points according to the numbers quoted.


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: CF DolFan on January 21, 2022, 03:40:48 pm
There isn't any team playing this weekend that would surprise me if they did win. Looks to be 4 good games.


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 21, 2022, 04:18:23 pm
There isn't any team playing this weekend that would surprise me if they did win. Looks to be 4 good games.

I would be very surprised if the Niners won or even kept it close. Beating the Cowboys in the playoffs is not very hard, notorious chokers. The Packers are just a much better team. The other 3 games are coin flips as far as I'm concerned.


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: dolphins4life on January 21, 2022, 09:55:35 pm
How are the Bucs NOT favored?  This is a much a forgone conclusion as there can be.


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: raptorsfan29 on January 21, 2022, 11:31:20 pm
Titans
Packers
Bucs
Bills

Although i feel wanted thinking the bills will win is more of a hope than a realistic thought. Along with the Rams since i would like to see Stafford win but will err on the side of caution with that game and pick the defending champs.



Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: Downunder Dolphan on January 22, 2022, 04:26:32 am
How are the Bucs NOT favored?  This is a much a forgone conclusion as there can be.

Tristan Wirfs being injured and his backup being shaken up has some people questioning if Brady will be standing up long enough to throw the ball. The ones who aren't betting on the Bucs are guessing that Donald, Miller and co will have a good day sacking and pressuring him.


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on January 22, 2022, 07:49:18 am
Tristan Wirfs being injured and his backup being shaken up has some people questioning if Brady will be standing up long enough to throw the ball. The ones who aren't betting on the Bucs are guessing that Donald, Miller and co will have a good day sacking and pressuring him.

That's why I picked the Rams.  The Bucs, who were really banged up defensively when these two teams met the first time are now really banged up offensively.  They are missing their top two runners, two of their top three receivers, and their right tackle and center are both hobbling.   That being said, it was still a tough call.  The Rams, for all the star power they have, are inconsistent.   They are playing on a short week, flying cross country, and Stafford has never gone this far in the playoffs.   If the game is close late, Brady will find a way to pull it out.


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: dolphins4life on January 22, 2022, 05:21:49 pm
It’s the same pattern with Brady every year.   His team looks overmatched so nobody thinks he can win.  But because his opponents do stupid things and his teammates play out of this world, he wins the super bowl. 


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 22, 2022, 06:39:08 pm
Our boy Tanny is making Kyler Murray look like Joe Montana right now.


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on January 22, 2022, 08:23:17 pm
Our boy Tanny is making Kyler Murray look like Joe Montana right now.

Typical Tanny.  Needing to put together a decent drive to win, he shits the bed


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 22, 2022, 08:34:13 pm
Typical Tanny.  Needing to put together a decent drive to win, he shits the bed

He could never win it for you, just maintain the success from the rest of the team. There is certainly a value to that but it becomes a glaring weakness when you need a GW drive and he throws a pick instead.


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: DenverFinFan on January 22, 2022, 10:12:00 pm
End of the line of Tanny it looks like. Much respect to the man but it he is an above average QB at best and at worst can actively lose the game for you.


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 22, 2022, 11:04:12 pm
End of the line of Tanny it looks like. Much respect to the man but it he is an above average QB at best and at worst can actively lose the game for you.

I think I read that the way his contract is structured, he won't be leaving them any time soon.


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 22, 2022, 11:09:16 pm
The Packers are like the Snow Cowboys in that they always lose to lesser teams in the playoffs.

What a fucking nightmare.


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: Spider-Dan on January 23, 2022, 01:41:39 am
Since winning Super Bowl XLV, Rodgers is 7-9 in the playoffs, with 4 of those losses coming at home (and 3 coming as the #1 seed).

If you want to know what the perception of Marino would have been like if he had won in '84, all you have to do is look at the careers of Drew Brees or Aaron Rodgers.


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: dolphins4life on January 23, 2022, 02:44:08 am
Failing to see your point.

All three of these quarterbacks are labeled by the mainstream media as perennial chokers and failures.

Unjustly, I might add.

Rodgers has thrown two or more interceptions in 3 of his 21 playoff games.  He is 1-2 in those games.

Brady has thrown two or more interceptions in 11 of his 46 playoff games.  He is 7-4 in those games.

Brees threw two or more interceptions in 4 of his 18 playoff games.  He was 1-3 in those games.

I mean, other players impact the game besides the quarterback, right?


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: dolphins4life on January 23, 2022, 02:45:17 am
Jimmy G vs Brady for the NFC title game.

That's going to be a huge rout for the Bucs.

Is there a way to set your facebook page so you can not see on your mini-feed any posts about football?


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on January 23, 2022, 03:38:24 am
Jimmy G vs Brady for the NFC title game.

That's going to be a huge rout for the Bucs.

Is there a way to set your facebook page so you can not see on your mini-feed any posts about football?

I wouldn't be so sure of that.  San Francisco's defense is for real.  They've shut down two high powered offenses on the road.  Their offense with Deebo and Kittle is a matchup nightmare for anyone. 

On a side note, I'll bet Stroke is going bezerk


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: Pappy13 on January 23, 2022, 09:28:39 am
When you get to the post season defense becomes even more important than during the regular season. It's nice that QB's put up all those points during the regular season, once the post season comes around, points are much harder to come by typically. Offense gets you to the post season, but defense still wins championships.


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 23, 2022, 11:27:00 am
Since winning Super Bowl XLV, Rodgers is 7-9 in the playoffs, with 4 of those losses coming at home (and 3 coming as the #1 seed).

If you want to know what the perception of Marino would have been like if he had won in '84, all you have to do is look at the careers of Drew Brees or Aaron Rodgers.

Good point.

Packers have had about 30 years of Hall of Fame play from Favre and Rodgers and only have 2 Superbowls to show for it. Granted, two more than us but that's still a terrible ratio.


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: dolphins4life on January 23, 2022, 03:05:59 pm
Spider, what is your opinion of brees, Rodgers, and Marino?


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: dolphins4life on January 23, 2022, 03:20:35 pm
Enjoy this brief 3-0 lead Los Angeles, you stand no chance whatsoever of winning this game


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: dolphins4life on January 23, 2022, 06:19:44 pm
I can’t believe this


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: Dave Gray on January 23, 2022, 06:35:38 pm
Rams did everything they could to lose that game and still couldn’t do it.


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on January 23, 2022, 07:43:31 pm
Hey D4L.  Told ya Tampa wasn't gonna make it.   Too many hurt guys


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 23, 2022, 07:51:12 pm
Hey D4L.  Told ya Tampa wasn't gonna make it.   Too many hurt guys

Was that CB position one of them? Because that guy got burned on the game winning throw like he was undrafted out of Middle Tennessee A&M.


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: dolphins4life on January 23, 2022, 08:26:15 pm
I knew the Rams were the better team.  However, as is often the case against Brady, his opponent just WANTS TO LOSE AT ALL COSTS!!

I followed that game at the supermarket.  I got in trouble twice for doing so on my phone.,

When it was 27-6, I had flashbacks to super Bowl 51.  I wasn't going to celebrate.  I had a sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach that something bad was going to happen.

Sure enough, it did.  In fact it happened before that.

20-3?  Let's fumble the ball away and stop ourselves from scoring again.

27-6?  Let's fumble on the first play of the next drive and give them a gift.

27-13?  First down and ten at the twenty five?  Let's go in shotgun and mess up the snap and prevent ourselves from making it a three score game.   We could run three times and kick a field goal, but no, let's mess things up because we are playing against Brady

27-13?  Let's miss a field that would put the game away.

27-13?  Let's pull a 2012 Denver Broncos and give a big score when we just need to play prevent defense.

27-20?  Let's fumble the ball again, giving them an easy field.

I don't know what it is about Brady that makes his opponents do such insanely stupid things.  And just when it think it can't get any worse, I get proven wrong.




Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 23, 2022, 09:41:01 pm
Aside from the Niners/Packers, looks like defense need not apply this postseason. These receivers are so wide open it's like college.


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 23, 2022, 09:59:49 pm
THE BILLS ARE ELIMINATED IN DEVASTATING, HEARTBREAKING FASHION AND I LOVE IT!!!

That being said, I cannot believe in the Year of Our Lord 2022 we still have a coin flip give enormous advantage to whomever guesses heads or tails correctly. It was almost guaranteed, whoever won the coin toss would win the game. That's ridiculous and it needs to end.


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on January 23, 2022, 10:05:08 pm
Both the Bucs and the Bills turned out to be major chokedicks.  Who the fuck can you justify scoring the go ahead TD with under a minute left and losing???


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 23, 2022, 10:12:31 pm
Both the Bucs and the Bills turned out to be major chokedicks.  Who the fuck can you justify scoring the go ahead TD with under a minute left and losing???

Apparently, 13 seconds with 3 timeouts was too much time to give Mahomes to get into FG range. Both defenses choked the whole 4th quarter. It was embarrassing to watch some of the guys get so wide open, especially the Bills receivers. Leslie Frazier won't be getting call back interviews after this game but Daboll will.


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: CF DolFan on January 24, 2022, 08:06:12 am
Glad the Bills lost but am very happy for Gabe Davis of Buffalo on getting 4Tds. He's a hometown boy who seems to be a good guy.


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 24, 2022, 08:35:19 am
Both the Bucs and the Bills turned out to be major chokedicks.  Who the fuck can you justify scoring the go ahead TD with under a minute left and losing???

Did Leslie Frazier not know that the Chiefs had timeout? Why leave the middle of the field open for prevent defense when the other team has timeouts? Nevermind the idea for a touchback instead of a squib.

Massive defensive chokes by both teams but the Bills were worse.


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: ArtieChokePhin on January 24, 2022, 08:42:28 am
Did Leslie Frazier not know that the Chiefs had timeout? Why leave the middle of the field open for prevent defense when the other team has timeouts? Nevermind the idea for a touchback instead of a squib.

Massive defensive chokes by both teams but the Bills were worse.

Or Bowles calling a full on blitz as opposed to a prevent which allowed Kupp to get wide open.   I'm so glad the Dolphins moved on from him after 2011.  He failed as a head coach in New York and now he's failed as a defensive coordinator.


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: Sunstroke on January 24, 2022, 08:47:45 am

The SF-GB game was as ugly as any game I think I have ever seen. I just hope now that SF's DBs get healthy in time for the Rams.

Go Niners!!



Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 24, 2022, 08:55:46 am
The SF-GB game was as ugly as any game I think I have ever seen. I just hope now that SF's DBs get healthy in time for the Rams.

Go Niners!!



I saw that the Packers didn't even have 11 men on the field for the Niners FG  ;D

You never know how the game will go. I would say the Rams are a more complete team but they did have that meltdown against the Niners in Week 18 as well as the almost meltdown against the Bucs yesterday. So, would not be surprising if we see a Superbowl 24 rematch.


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: Pappy13 on January 24, 2022, 09:11:06 am
Aside from the Niners/Packers, looks like defense need not apply this postseason. These receivers are so wide open it's like college.
I don't know the Cincy/Tennessee game was pretty much a defensive/special teams struggle as well. Cincy had 350 yards of passing offense until you take away the almost 70 yards of sacks and under 400 yards of total offense. Tennesee actually had more yards than Cincy. Cincy punted 5 times and got 4 FG's which isn't really an impressive offensive display. So 2 of the 4 games weren't that special offensively and if the Bucs defense doesn't step up and get Tampa 2 TD's from the 30 that game may have been pretty low scoring for one team as well. Brady was horrible. Sure the Buffalo KC game was crazy even moreso towards the end but that was really the only game where defense and special teams had no say in the final score. 4 of the 8 QB's had a QBR under 20. I'd say that had something to do with the defense.


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: dolphins4life on January 24, 2022, 02:48:06 pm
I saw that the Packers didn't even have 11 men on the field for the Niners FG  ;D

You never know how the game will go. I would say the Rams are a more complete team but they did have that meltdown against the Niners in Week 18 as well as the almost meltdown against the Bucs yesterday. So, would not be surprising if we see a Superbowl 24 rematch.

Obviously you meant to say 54 but you would be half right at 24.  San Francisco beat Denver in that super bowl



Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: dolphins4life on January 24, 2022, 02:49:21 pm
Lots of talk about the overtime format. 

To me it still feels like Tampa won


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 24, 2022, 03:19:25 pm
Obviously you meant to say 54 but you would be half right at 24.  San Francisco beat Denver in that super bowl



I meant to say 23, I thought it was the Superbowl before Giants/Bills but I forgot that the Broncos got blasted by the Niners.


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: Dave Gray on January 24, 2022, 04:15:33 pm
I knew the Rams were the better team.


I'm sorry, but you don't get to play this card.


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: dolphins4life on January 24, 2022, 04:19:03 pm

I'm sorry, but you don't get to play this card.

What are you talking about?

It's the card I've been playing for years.

Brady's teams are often inferior, but for some reason, his opponents like to mess up.


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: Dave Gray on January 24, 2022, 04:38:09 pm

Your statement in week 1:
Does anybody care?  I am curious if the Bucs are going to go undefeated

Your statement after week 5, at the obviousness of TB being in the Super Bowl.
Buf-TB   Pretty obvious here. 

Your statement leading up to the game.
How are the Bucs NOT favored?  This is a much a forgone conclusion as there can be.

Your statement right before the game.
That's going to be a huge rout for the Bucs.

Your statement during the game.
Enjoy this brief 3-0 lead Los Angeles, you stand no chance whatsoever of winning this game



So, no....

You don't get to come in here and talk about how you always knew the Rams were better.  You've been all but guaranteeing a TB Super Bowl as a foregone conclusion from before the season until the game had already started and they were losing.

...which is cool.  I get things wrong all the time.  But take your "L" and move on.


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: dolphins4life on January 24, 2022, 04:57:53 pm
Your statement in week 1:
Your statement after week 5, at the obviousness of TB being in the Super Bowl.
Your statement leading up to the game.
Your statement right before the game.
Your statement during the game.


So, no....

You don't get to come in here and talk about how you always knew the Rams were better.  You've been all but guaranteeing a TB Super Bowl as a foregone conclusion from before the season until the game had already started and they were losing.

...which is cool.  I get things wrong all the time.  But take your "L" and move on.

Everything you said is completely unrelated

I was predicting the outcome of the games and the result of the season.

This has NOTHING to do with who I thought was the better team.

Is this not obvious?  Or is this another case of you guys messing with me.


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: Dave Gray on January 24, 2022, 07:48:32 pm
If your take is that the team that you don't think is the best in the conference is 1. potentially going undefeated and 2. a shoe-in for the Super Bowl, that is a shitty take and you deserve criticism for it.


Title: Re: Divisional Weekend
Post by: masterfins on January 24, 2022, 08:37:45 pm
The SF-GB game was as ugly as any game I think I have ever seen. I just hope now that SF's DBs get healthy in time for the Rams.

Go Niners!!

Happy for you Stroke, but that was one ugly game on both sides, and I didn't even bother watching the whole thing.