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Title: Is it me or are there really less political ads these day in Florida?
Post by: CF DolFan on November 04, 2022, 04:10:37 pm
Seems to me that we aren't seeing as much political fodder being thrown in our faces 24/7.  Does anyone else feel this way or am I somehow luckily dodging them?


Title: Re: Is it me or are there really less political ads these day in Florida?
Post by: Sunstroke on November 04, 2022, 04:21:27 pm


I'm out of the loop in regards to FL TV ads, but I can say that, in AZ, virtually every other commercial is political.

It's insane...



Title: Re: Is it me or are there really less political ads these day in Florida?
Post by: dolphins4life on November 04, 2022, 05:45:08 pm
Both of these states are key battleground states, right?


Title: Re: Is it me or are there really less political ads these day in Florida?
Post by: Spider-Dan on November 04, 2022, 06:12:11 pm
FL is quickly losing its status as a swing state, which means the number of ads y'all see should go down dramatically.  I rarely see them in CA.


Title: Re: Is it me or are there really less political ads these day in Florida?
Post by: dolphins4life on November 04, 2022, 06:26:07 pm
FL is quickly losing its status as a swing state, which means the number of ads y'all see should go down dramatically.  I rarely see them in CA.

Are you expecting the Red Wave that they predict?


Title: Re: Is it me or are there really less political ads these day in Florida?
Post by: Phishfan on November 04, 2022, 10:06:14 pm
I don't watch live TV on traditional TV anymore so I don't really see it. DeSantis should be a runaway, no Marijuana on a ballot, etc. so there likely is less.


Title: Re: Is it me or are there really less political ads these day in Florida?
Post by: masterfins on November 06, 2022, 09:00:21 pm
It's pretty busy politically where I live in upstate NY.  There are a lot of local and state races that are being hotly contested because a couple of them don't have an incumbent.  Also, our re-drawn congressional district doesn't have an incumbent, not to mention it has always been a very close race before the slight tweaking that occurred; lots of outside money to fund all the tv ads.
 


Title: Re: Is it me or are there really less political ads these day in Florida?
Post by: Dave Gray on November 07, 2022, 09:50:58 am
The only local TV I watch at all, ever, is Dolphins games (unless there's a hurricane coming or something).

With that in mind, there were many ads about 2-3 weeks ago.  I make fun of them every time they come on.  In that deep, troubling voice: "Charlie Crist ate a live baby on his birthday."  "Mario Rubio wet the bed until he was 36."  Etc.

But as of about the last week, they have dried up some.

I've seen fewer ads on mobile devices, which I recall a lot of during the previous election cycle.


I think this is for a few reasons.  Florida has turned.  It's Alabama red now.  So, sure -- put your guys out there, but down the stretch, it's probably lost money.   Miami-Dade has lost is deep dark blue reliability, so the statewide stuff is pretty much done, I think.

But also, I think that we're learning more about Ad spending and it's likely not the way to reach people.  People who watch TV are old people.   The Democratic base that needs to be coaxed into voting is young people.  They're on youtube and twitch and Discord and stuff like that.  So, it's just an old form of media.


Title: Re: Is it me or are there really less political ads these day in Florida?
Post by: CF DolFan on November 07, 2022, 10:10:11 am
I don't watch much live TV but we do record things so I fast forward through the commercials and it doesnt' seems as bad. As well I listen to local radio.  In all honesty I think most political ads are half truths and/or outright lies reagrdless of who is making them. Like social media ... I don't think ads actually sway people anyway ... or at least many people in the whole scheme of things.


Title: Re: Is it me or are there really less political ads these day in Florida?
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on November 07, 2022, 10:12:49 am
Probably because this year's races really aren't that competitive, so DNC and RNC money is going to go towards closer states like Pennsylvania and Georgia. That and DeSantis probably going to try to run in 2024, so he won't spend his fundraising haul on a race he probably wins by double digits.


Title: Re: Is it me or are there really less political ads these day in Florida?
Post by: Fau Teixeira on November 07, 2022, 10:22:29 am
Less ads here in Connecticut.

The republican running for governor has ads, but it's funny that he tries very hard in the ads to let everyone know that he's not a really real republican. (he's almost running as a 1994 republican)

There's a republican running against dick blumenthal for the senate seat but i couldn't honestly tell you their name, that's how few ads there are for her (i think it's a her .. maybe)


Title: Re: Is it me or are there really less political ads these day in Florida?
Post by: Dave Gray on November 07, 2022, 10:26:17 am
I also think that this is not a policy-based, issues election.

Dems: Election lies are a threat, Abortion rights are getting taken.
GOP: Inflation is bad, groceries/gas are expensive.

That's pretty much baked in and ads don't change which thing people care about and who they trust on those issues.


Title: Re: Is it me or are there really less political ads these day in Florida?
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on November 07, 2022, 11:26:57 am
Less ads here in Connecticut.

The republican running for governor has ads, but it's funny that he tries very hard in the ads to let everyone know that he's not a really real republican. (he's almost running as a 1994 republican)

There's a republican running against dick blumenthal for the senate seat but i couldn't honestly tell you their name, that's how few ads there are for her (i think it's a her .. maybe)

The New England states are Democrat but they won't want to become California, so they usually have moderates as Governors, whether they are Republican or Democrat. It's just smart business to not be MAGA or AOC if you want to win there.


Title: Re: Is it me or are there really less political ads these day in Florida?
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on November 07, 2022, 01:41:53 pm
Less ads here in Connecticut.

The republican running for governor has ads, but it's funny that he tries very hard in the ads to let everyone know that he's not a really real republican. (he's almost running as a 1994 republican)


If I was Ned's campaign manager, my entire ad buy would be Trump's endorsement of Stefanowski


Title: Re: Is it me or are there really less political ads these day in Florida?
Post by: Spider-Dan on November 07, 2022, 02:07:58 pm
The New England states are Democrat but they won't want to become California, so they usually have moderates as Governors, whether they are Republican or Democrat.
It's always strange to me when I hear the premise that liberal states "don't want to turn into California or New York."  I don't think I've ever heard anyone say "Indiana doesn't want to turn into Texas" or "Utah doesn't want to turn into Alabama."

I guess it's a telling commentary about the mindset of self-hating liberals vs. fall-in-line conservatives.


Title: Re: Is it me or are there really less political ads these day in Florida?
Post by: Fau Teixeira on November 07, 2022, 04:28:35 pm
right .. what state is out there saying they don't want their state to turn into the 6th largest economy in the world


Title: Re: Is it me or are there really less political ads these day in Florida?
Post by: CF DolFan on November 07, 2022, 05:20:06 pm
It's always strange to me when I hear the premise that liberal states "don't want to turn into California or New York."  I don't think I've ever heard anyone say "Indiana doesn't want to turn into Texas" or "Utah doesn't want to turn into Alabama."

I guess it's a telling commentary about the mindset of self-hating liberals vs. fall-in-line conservatives.
hahaha ... if you don't realize that many liberals even shake their head at things California, New York, and now the Northwest does then you aren't  paying attention. Hell ... California itself has turned more liberals into Independents and Republicans than Republicans and Independents ever could... hahaha. Places like Texas and Alabama are not near the outliers compared to other red states.


Title: Re: Is it me or are there really less political ads these day in Florida?
Post by: Spider-Dan on November 07, 2022, 06:46:59 pm
Places like Texas and Alabama are not near the outliers compared to other red states.
In your opinion, who are the "outlier" red states?
Which states do conservatives point at and say, "Those guys are far too conservative for us"?

My guess would be none.  That the very concept of "too conservative" is basically inconceivable for red America.


Title: Re: Is it me or are there really less political ads these day in Florida?
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on November 08, 2022, 09:24:44 pm
DeSantis has a shot at winning this race by 20, which was even higher than my estimates of 12-14 points. Absolute bloodbath. Charlie Crist has now lost an election as a Democrat, Republican and Independent. Hat Trick.


Title: Re: Is it me or are there really less political ads these day in Florida?
Post by: dolphins4life on November 08, 2022, 10:25:29 pm
Somebody lied.

There is no way Covid could be that bad in Florida and DeSantis wins by that much.


Title: Re: Is it me or are there really less political ads these day in Florida?
Post by: Spider-Dan on November 09, 2022, 03:25:59 am
So how bad was COVID for a Republican president to lose both Georgia and Arizona?

Polling booths do not determine how deadly a disease is.

edit: Your state, MA, currently has a Republican governor, Charlie Baker.  In Tuesday's race, the Democratic candidate, Maura Healey, won the race for governor 63-35, flipping the governor's mansion with a 28-point victory (which is bigger than DeSantis' 20-point victory in FL).

So what does Healey's win tell us about the truth of COVID?


Title: Re: Is it me or are there really less political ads these day in Florida?
Post by: CF DolFan on November 09, 2022, 08:14:45 am
Somebody lied.

There is no way Covid could be that bad in Florida and DeSantis wins by that much.
Covid was bad everywhere. People in Florida were just allowed to deal with it as they saw was best for them and their families.


Title: Re: Is it me or are there really less political ads these day in Florida?
Post by: Fau Teixeira on November 09, 2022, 09:20:45 am
In CT, the dems swept pretty much everything. (as expected)


Title: Re: Is it me or are there really less political ads these day in Florida?
Post by: Dave Gray on November 09, 2022, 10:39:08 am
COVID isn't a political issue in this election cycle, D4L.  It's in the rear-view mirror.  Nobody gives a shit, because the disagreements about how to handle it were from 2 years ago.

Here's the ranked importance of issues:  https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2022-election/inflation-abortion-lead-list-voter-concerns-nbc-news-exit-poll-finds-rcna56258
Inflation
Abortion
Crime
Guns
Immigration


Title: Re: Is it me or are there really less political ads these day in Florida?
Post by: dolphins4life on November 09, 2022, 03:11:06 pm
COVID isn't a political issue in this election cycle, D4L.  It's in the rear-view mirror.  Nobody gives a shit, because the disagreements about how to handle it were from 2 years ago.

Here's the ranked importance of issues:  https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2022-election/inflation-abortion-lead-list-voter-concerns-nbc-news-exit-poll-finds-rcna56258
Inflation
Abortion
Crime
Guns
Immigration

Except for Abortion, all of those issues should have favored the GOP.

I wonder why they didn't get the wave they thought.

Edit:

As a hard-working American, I am little disappointed that there was no wave.

However, as a healthcare worker who worked on the front lines of the pandemic, it will be nice to hear the far-right psychos freak out about this. 


Title: Re: Is it me or are there really less political ads these day in Florida?
Post by: Sunstroke on November 09, 2022, 03:48:56 pm
Except for Abortion, all of those issues should have favored the GOP.

I wonder why they didn't get the wave they thought.

The refs blew the call... Oh wait, wrong thread.