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Title: Shame of the Game - @ 49ers
Post by: Spider-Dan on December 04, 2022, 07:26:18 pm
Gotta go with DC Josh Boyer on this one.

You cannot let a 3rd-string 7th-round rookie QB carve up your defense.  The series at the end of the 2nd quarter was just humiliating.


Title: Re: Shame of the Game - @ 49ers
Post by: dolphins4life on December 04, 2022, 07:27:19 pm
The defense


Title: Re: Shame of the Game - @ 49ers
Post by: Sunstroke on December 04, 2022, 09:42:08 pm
Gotta go with DC Josh Boyer on this one.

You cannot let a 3rd-string 7th-round rookie QB carve up your defense.  The series at the end of the 2nd quarter was just humiliating.

Not just a 7th rounder, but Mr Irrelevant himself...  ;)




Title: Re: Shame of the Game - @ 49ers
Post by: dolphins4life on December 04, 2022, 09:47:04 pm
Not just a 7th rounder, but Mr Irrelevant himself...  ;)




McDaniel

1) First, not taking Tua out earlier

2) Second, for not going for two after it was 23-16

Hill and Tua for giving me a sliver of false hope.

BTW, even if Miami converted that fourth down and scored and touchdown, I am almost 100% percent certain that SF would have driven down the field and won


Title: Re: Shame of the Game - @ 49ers
Post by: Garrett on December 04, 2022, 11:37:53 pm
I disagree with giving it to the  defensive  coordinator.  I think the defense did a pretty good job  considering the  hand they were delt. They were on the  field the whole game!

  If Tua was throwing the ball  accurately,  they win this game  easily...
   Tua gets the  shame! I don't know what  was going on,  but  he missed several big throws. Easy throws.



Title: Re: Shame of the Game - @ 49ers
Post by: Dave Gray on December 05, 2022, 06:21:13 am
The answer has to be Tua for me.

I know the reasons why.  No Armstead meant we had to deal with Bosa in different ways.  We weren't always able; there wasn't consistency.  So, Tua never got settled in.

But ultimately, when he did have protection, he didn't have the confidence and missed throws that he otherwise makes.  He wasn't his best.  It wasn't an embarrassing, abysmal performance for him, but it wasn't up to par.  If he performs to even 75% of his normal play, we would have won this game, so it's on him.  Also, his throws being errant caused two turnovers.

It wasn't the only problem, but it was the biggest departure from normal.


Title: Re: Shame of the Game - @ 49ers
Post by: CF DolFan on December 05, 2022, 09:31:59 am
Again ... I gotta agree with Dave on this. Receivers didn't help the case on a few plays, the refs called a horrible game against the Dolphins, but the fact Tua took three quarters to settle down is what really cost this team. had he of been able to hit his open recviers in the first three quarters this might not have even been a game in the 4th quarter. We left a lot of plays on the field today and yet it was still close going into the 4th quarter when our dfense was completed worn out. Time of possesssion killed them.


Title: Re: Shame of the Game - @ 49ers
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on December 05, 2022, 11:48:26 am
Boyer. I just can't give it to Tua since he still almost threw for 300 yards and 2 TDs. Certainly not a great game, but squarely in the "good enough" category when facing Mr. Irrelevant for almost the entire game.

This defense has serious issues and they have to be dissected in the offseason.


Title: Re: Shame of the Game - @ 49ers
Post by: CF DolFan on December 05, 2022, 12:35:30 pm
Boyer. I just can't give it to Tua since he still almost threw for 300 yards and 2 TDs. Certainly not a great game, but squarely in the "good enough" category when facing Mr. Irrelevant for almost the entire game.

This defense has serious issues and they have to be dissected in the offseason.
Not just addressing you but I really don't get the defensive hate today. It seems like people didn't watch the game nor did they look at the stats. they are only going off the final score.  Miami had 4 turnovers and lost time of possession 40 minutes to 19. 40 freaking minutes to 19? That's huge. The freaking defense kept it close until in the 4th quarter when we had the chance to go ahead. They did a pretty decent job for a team who has lost 4 defensive backs.


Title: Re: Shame of the Game - @ 49ers
Post by: Spider-Dan on December 05, 2022, 01:44:33 pm
The defense allowed a 3rd-string 7th-round rookie QB to carve them up in the first half.
The possession to close out the 2nd quarter was downright shameful.

The defense was on the field so much because, while Tua was indeed having a bad game and giving the ball back, the defense wasn't getting any stops.  MIA's defense got ONE three-and-out punt on the entire day!  My criticism of the defense isn't based on the final score or the last few SF drives...  it's based on how little they accomplished all day long.

MIA's offense, with Armstead out, should have been expected to have a low-production week.  The fact that there were a lot of missed opportunities on offense does not excuse the defense allowing Brock Purdy to dissect them.


Title: Re: Shame of the Game - @ 49ers
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on December 05, 2022, 02:09:26 pm
Not just addressing you but I really don't get the defensive hate today. It seems like people didn't watch the game nor did they look at the stats. they are only going off the final score.  Miami had 4 turnovers and lost time of possession 40 minutes to 19. 40 freaking minutes to 19? That's huge. The freaking defense kept it close until in the 4th quarter when we had the chance to go ahead. They did a pretty decent job for a team who has lost 4 defensive backs.

Not dismissing the time of possession argument because there is merit to it, but our defense is to blame for that as well since they weren't getting any 3 and outs, so the Niners TOP was high. It was the last drafted guy of 2022, they should've gotten 3 picks off of him and he played pretty well overall. Have to put it on the defense for this one.


Title: Re: Shame of the Game - @ 49ers
Post by: Dave Gray on December 05, 2022, 02:53:07 pm
HM to Gesicki.

This isn't really his fault, but he's not a good blocking TE.  He doesn't fit McDaniel's scheme, so we're paying more than we're getting, for the type of player he is.  So, when you're short a lineman and you're asking for blocking from him, he's not giving you what you need.  On top of that, he had 0 catches for 0 yards.  His drop on 4th down pretty much ended things for us.


Title: Re: Shame of the Game - @ 49ers
Post by: masterfins on December 05, 2022, 04:03:11 pm
Tua


Title: Re: Shame of the Game - @ 49ers
Post by: Downunder Dolphan on December 07, 2022, 04:53:23 am
I hand SOG to the defense. Too many missed tackles and blown coverage in the middle of the field (our old Achilles heel yet again (reappearing at the worst time).