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Not saying they will or won't but at this point i'm just hoping for a win at this point.

But if the Dolphins lose next week where will this rank among collapses in Dolphins history. Do you consider this a collapse or just the result of bad circumstances?

^^^ I'd call it an epic failure of the coaching staff.

I think it's both. We lost 5 one score games this season, including 4 in a row. That's not so much of a collapse as it is not playing your best and bad luck. Injuries are also bad luck, we have been decimated by them this season.

Next week will be the 4th game that Skylar Thompson started or played significant snaps on and he is our 3rd stringer, 99% of the time that is terrible for your team. Not that we would be undefeated if everyone was healthy, but it's well beyond "injuries are a part of the game" at this point.

Even if they win, if the Patriots also win, it is still a collapse

It's a collapse even if we make the playoffs, we were 8-3 and the top seed in the AFC. Squeaking into the playoffs won't erase what we could've been.

The last time MIA was the #1 seed was at 3-1.  9-2 KC was the #1 seed when MIA was 8-3.

Oops, my bad then. I thought we were #1 at that point. I think they lost to the Bengals the next week, that threw me off.

I think the only way this season doesn't go down as an epic collapse is if Dolphins not only makes the playoffs but wins some playoff games, in which case it will be known as the most epic rollercoaster.

I think McDaniel nailed it. I'm paraphrasing but if we went 0-3, then 3-0, and 0-5, then 5-0, people would say we were in great shape. Either way we are 8-8 with a chance to get into the playoffs. If we win then we have momentum again. Remember ... Flores couldn't win in the early part of the season but finished strong each year. it has a lot to do with schedule, situations, and almost more importantly injuries. Would be really nice to get healthy against the Jets but if we don't then we learn and move on. In reality we have hurt ourselves more than we have just flat out lost games. Hopefully that can be overcome.

That is true.  But a team that was playing like crap in September but is playing awesome in December is much more likely to be playing well in January than a team that was awesome in September but shit the bed in December. 

Exactly.  I don't think McD gets it.  I want to see some anger from him - throw some chairs and clipboards, get pi$$ed.

This one will hurt me the most since Dan came back from injury when I was 10 in 99

I think there was a technicality somewhere, where we were the #1 seed, but it was before another team played that week....like they had a MNF game or something.

It was when other teams had a bye and we didn't so we were 1/2 game ahead. Kansas City's bye was week 8 and our's was week 11. We made it to 11 games before most other teams did.

^ Yeah, that's it.



To answer the main prompt, this is a pretty big f'ing collapse.

And sure, we can all point to injury and while that's valid, I'm kind of sick of the excuses.  Every team gets injured.  When your depth is so bad you can't overcome it, that's on you.  When your main QB can't stay on the field, so you go get a backup QB that's expect to play some minutes and he completely sucks and can't hold down the fort for 5 minutes, not to mention getting knocked out of every game also, so you have to start your 3rd QB, who also sucks -- that's a problem.

I don't know what it is about this franchise, but we seem unique in our ability to go on long winning stretches, following by long losing stretches, or vice-versa.

I'm still holding reservations until the season is over. If we go on a winning streak ... even if it's only 2 games ... then I will be happy. Obviously more wins even happier. If we lose to the Jets and miss thhe playoffs then I would agree season tanked.

I think McDaniel will figure "it" out sooner or later. It will either be now or in the off season but he will be a better coach because of all the losing we've recently had.

I still have confidence in Mike. Has a Rookie HC ever won the Superbowl? He has shown to be an offensive genius and players like him. He just needs to get a better DC, pray for health and figure out how to motivate the guys more. I said last year that he might struggle with "leading men" and that might be right, but he is very smart and I think will figure it out.

Have you guys heard the rumors that if we miss the playoffs everyone is getting canned?

If Ross does it I swear I’m out man. He deserves at least as much time as Flores or at a minimum one more full year.

I want to believe he can correct the ship but with Miami I will believe it win it happens.

George Seifert in 1989, though a rookie HC inheriting a championship team and repeating is something of an asterisk.

Looks like Don McCafferty also won the first post-merger Super Bowl as a rookie HC.

I heard those rumors but I don't give them much credence. Boyer is probably gone but McCarthy and Grier shouldn't even be considered for being terminated. Injuries really derailed us this season and a lot of our weaknesses can be addressed in one offseason. Blame Sanders for being terrible all of a sudden, not the GM or HC.

Neither Dave Hyde or Joe Rose see Mike or Chris being let go but they both laughed about the fact they didn't see Flores being gone last year. Hard to say but Joe Rose ays he doesn't think the higher ups are talking to Armando so they don't belive he has inside information on this.

If we fire Mike McDaniel, I will have to seriously rethink my relationship with this team.

He's the one guy I'm completely in the tank for.

Though I may not agree, I could get over literally any other player or staff being removed.