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EVERYBODY on this board complains about the refs.  EVERYBODY.  If you don't believe me, just re-read any game thread of significant length.

Why I am the only one who gets crap about it?  Is it because I am not a homer about it like you people are?

Moved to Anti-Fins Chat, though I strongly considered locking/deleting this.  I may reconsider.

I want an answer. 

Everybody complains about the refs on this board. 

Many people complain about refs but typically do not blame games and certainly not seasons on them. Lots pf plays make up a game and a few bad calls are just part of it. You would be better to move on from them.

1) You sometimes have bad opinions.  Referring isn't as much about black and white rules as you'd like.  It's more about whether the infraction causes an unfair advantage.  You're not going to be able to tell what pass interference is by reading the description in a book; you need to watch lots of football and get a feel for it.

2) You pick and choose individual calls and inflate their importance, rather than understanding that calls happen in the larger landscape of the ebb and flow of a game, where refs make micro-decisions on every play and dismissing those.

3) You seem to not watch full games and instead rely on stat sheets and individual youtube clips.  You just can't watch a game that way.

4) The vast majority of the time, bad calls go both ways -- since you're on a Dolphins site, we're likely to highlight the ones we're upset about.  Since you live and work amongst a bunch of Massholes, you're going to hear about the ones we get away with.  But by and large, over the length of a season, the better teams will rise to the top.  Sure, you may lose or win a game due to a call, but over the long-haul it's going to come out in the wash.

This is a legitimate point

You don't complain about the refs very much, to your credit.

Everything you say is completely wrong and so far off

1) I completely agree.  This is what I consider when I talk about the officiating.  The problem is, if when I do this, it comes out as a result you don't like, you all just say that I am a homer and biased, etc.  Example, in the 2020 NFC championship game, I compared the calls and non-calls in the secondary and said I agreed with them precisely because of their impacts on the play.  Since this meant I agreed with calls that favored Brady, you all just accused me of having a Brady bias.  What you just said in this point is EXACTLY when I've said for many years and have gotten nothing but crap for it.  This is a double-standard.   Another example, see the Super Bowl thread between the Rams and Bengals, where I analyze the calls.

2) Again, wrong.  I consider each call and it's importance on the game.  I consider the effect of the call on the big picture of the game.  I look at calls for both teams in the games.
 YOU and everybody on this board do not do this.  For example, in the AFC title game against the Chiefs, you all harped on one call, the roughing the passer call, that favored the Patriots.  You ignored the fact that it would have been 3rd and 7 without the call, and the Patriots were almost perfect on third down in the second half.  You ignored the Chiefs defenders mauling the Patriots receivers all game, whereas the Patriots defenders were getting flagged for simply BREATHING on a Chiefs receiver.

3) I watch the videos of the plays when determining the officiating standards.

4) There is no reason to think that the vast majority of time calls go both ways.  NO SINGLE PATRIOTS FAN I KNOW HAS BLAMED THIS SEASON ON THE REFS.  They would be fully justified in doing it, but they have not.  I just saw the videos the plays and made my conclusions.

How can you say things that are so completely untrue about me?

LOL.




Anyway, you got your answer.  You have an opinion.  The users of this website and people of the world, in general, do not respect that opinion or agree with it.

Saying that opinion again or saying it louder or banging the drum that you demand respect or answers doesn't change that.


You have your answer: Your opinion is bad.  The consensus is that you are wrong.



Do with that information what you will.

Sometimes I feel like I'm teaching Kindergartners

1) I completely agree with WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT ANALYZING OFFICIATING.  I DO NOT AGREE THAT I HAVE BAD OPINIONS

However, what you said in your post about analyzing officiating is NOT how you or anybody else on this board actually analyzes officiating.  It is how I analyze officiating.

You completely ignored everything else I said in the rest of my post.  You didn't comment on or try to refute my examples.

So why am I criticized for analyzing officiating the way you just stated that I should be analyzing it?

That is the premise of this thread.

I challenge you.  Name one specific call that I analyzed and got wrong.   Just any specific call.  Name a single one  

Maybe it's because you know so much about football - more than a top-5-of-all-time NFL head coach, despite never spending a single second on a professional coaching staff at any level - that mere laymen like us are incapable of comprehending your genius.

Or to put it another way:
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Again, name a SPECIFIC CALL.

This thread is not about coaching, it's about officiating.

What calls have I analyzed incorrectly?

All of them. 

Again, not an answer

Name ONE specifically.

One example

I've never met a bigger bunch of cowardly dodgers, post manipulators, and intentionally dishonest people.

Can you name one example of a call that I analyzed incorrectly?

The reason why no one is responding to your ridiculous demands is because we have proven over and over again how incredibly uninformed you are about how football works, and you simply ignore it and move on.  This is the last time I indulge this absurd line of argument.

Not only will I give you an example of a call you've analyzed incorrectly, I'll give you one that you directly admitted:




You consistently post, by far, the most ignorant and ill-informed football opinions of any poster on this forum... which is made even more glaring by the fact that you mistakenly believe you are a football genius.  Have you ever given any thought as to why you're the only person you've ever seen who honestly thinks they know more about football than Bill Belichick?  To any reasonably sane person, that should set off warning bells.

P.S.
I don't know if you're intentionally trying to get banned, but this is a good way to do so.

Thank you

There’s an example.

Was that so hard?

And this is exactly why no one else bothered:
You are completely unfazed and your behavior will not be altered in any way.

There's literally no point to indulging your requests.  You act like a goldfish, with a memory measured in seconds.

How exactly, do you want me to alter my behavior?

At first that call you cited looked like blatant pass interference to me.

However, after gaining an understanding of how pass interference is called, and re-watching the video, I concluded that the call is consistent with how officials call plays like that.  Talib grabbed Gronk's jersey, but he didn't affect his arms, and in the referee's judgement, he didn't significantly affect his ability to play the ball, therefore, it is a reasonable no-call.

BTW, have you ever heard of comedic exaggeration?

That's what that Belichick thread was.

I don't think I'm smarter than Andy Reid, but I made a better decision than he did in Super Bowl 55.

CF's post actually made a lot of sense

My conclusion:

It seems the consensus on this board is that it's okay to complain about the refs DURING the game, you just can't say they are the reason for the outcome of the game.

I don't agree with it, but it is a conclusion.