Title: The Dolphins have their first Pro Bowl QB in 27 years. Post by: Spider-Dan on January 21, 2023, 07:53:00 pm The Chiefs beat the Jaguars today.
That means that the three AFC Pro Bowl QBs - Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, and Joe Burrow - are all on teams that are still alive in the playoffs, one of which must make the Super Bowl (and therefore be ineligible for Pro Bowl weekend). The QB that travels to Arizona for Super Bowl LVII will be replaced by the first alternate, who is one Tua Tagovailoa. Congrats to Tua on making the Pro Bowl. Title: Re: The Dolphins have their first Pro Bowl QB in 27 years. Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 21, 2023, 09:52:35 pm Should've made it over Josh Allen anyway.
Title: Re: The Dolphins have their first Pro Bowl QB in 27 years. Post by: CF DolFan on January 23, 2023, 08:58:01 am It's probably not the correct stance to take and maybe I will change my tune but as of now if Tua participates in the ProBowl I think it will piss me off. He missed the biggest game of the year that put us in the playoffs and then the playoff game itself. He needs to chill until next season IMO.
Title: Re: The Dolphins have their first Pro Bowl QB in 27 years. Post by: Pappy13 on January 23, 2023, 09:57:15 am Congrats to Tua on making the Pro Bowl. Good thing it's flag football this year.Title: Re: The Dolphins have their first Pro Bowl QB in 27 years. Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 23, 2023, 10:39:52 am It's probably not the correct stance to take and maybe I will change my tune but as of now if Tua participates in the ProBowl I think it will piss me off. He missed the biggest game of the year that put us in the playoffs and then the playoff game itself. He needs to chill until next season IMO. I don't want him to play either but I want him to be cleared to play. Title: Re: The Dolphins have their first Pro Bowl QB in 27 years. Post by: masterfins on January 24, 2023, 07:26:42 am Good thing it's flag football this year. LOL, he'll still manage to get a concussion or break a finger. Title: Re: The Dolphins have their first Pro Bowl QB in 27 years. Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on January 24, 2023, 12:02:52 pm Maybe, maybe not. If he doesn’t play he won’t be considered a probowler. The original selected players are considered probowlers as are alternates that play, but alternates that need an alternate aren’t probowlers
Title: Re: The Dolphins have their first Pro Bowl QB in 27 years. Post by: Downunder Dolphan on January 24, 2023, 05:12:05 pm Even if it's flag football I don't want to see Tua out there. Wrap him up in cotton wool and bubble wrap this off season, and get him right for 2023.
Title: Re: The Dolphins have their first Pro Bowl QB in 27 years. Post by: CF DolFan on January 27, 2023, 02:34:42 pm Dolphins’ Tua Tagovailoa remains in concussion protocol, won’t participate in Pro Bowl
The fact he still hasn't been released from protocol seems rather concerning. Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article271716142.html#storylink=cpy Title: Re: The Dolphins have their first Pro Bowl QB in 27 years. Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 27, 2023, 02:38:36 pm Dolphins’ Tua Tagovailoa remains in concussion protocol, won’t participate in Pro Bowl The fact he still hasn't been released from protocol seems rather concerning. Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article271716142.html#storylink=cpy It is concerning unless there is no sense of urgency to do so so and they're just letting him rest since the season is over. Title: Re: The Dolphins have their first Pro Bowl QB in 27 years. Post by: Pappy13 on January 27, 2023, 06:51:23 pm It is concerning unless there is no sense of urgency to do so so and they're just letting him rest since the season is over. I wouldn't doubt if they kept him in the protocol specifically so that he couldn't play in the pro bowl. Flag Football or not, just have him skip it.Title: Re: The Dolphins have their first Pro Bowl QB in 27 years. Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on January 28, 2023, 10:40:42 am It is concerning unless there is no sense of urgency to do so so and they're just letting him rest since the season is over. Actually it is extremely concerning. If the concussion protocol means something different in the third quarter of a close game than it does in the off season then you don't have a concussion protocol. Title: Re: The Dolphins have their first Pro Bowl QB in 27 years. Post by: CF DolFan on January 30, 2023, 08:18:48 am Maybe, maybe not. If he doesn’t play he won’t be considered a probowler. The original selected players are considered probowlers as are alternates that play, but alternates that need an alternate aren’t probowlers I read that he is still considered a Pro Bowler but it won't effect his contract and activate any bonuses. Title: Re: The Dolphins have their first Pro Bowl QB in 27 years. Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 31, 2023, 01:06:06 pm Ravens backup QB Tyler Huntley has been named to the Pro Bowl to replace Josh Allen. A rundown of his season:
Tyler Huntley's 2022 season: 658 passing yards 137 rushing yards 3 total touchdowns 3 interceptions 41.2 QBR This is not a joke, he was named to the Pro Bowl. I guess Teddy Bridgewater declined. Title: Re: The Dolphins have their first Pro Bowl QB in 27 years. Post by: CF DolFan on January 31, 2023, 01:51:49 pm Crazy!!!!!
AFC QBs Derek Carr Trevor Lawerence Tyler Huntley NFC QBs Geno Smith Kirt cousins Jared Goff Title: Re: The Dolphins have their first Pro Bowl QB in 27 years. Post by: EDGECRUSHER on January 31, 2023, 02:18:12 pm Crazy!!!!! AFC QBs Derek Carr Trevor Lawerence Tyler Huntley NFC QBs Geno Smith Kirt cousins Jared Goff I think in the future some NFL teams may redo their contracts for QBs in terms of Pro Bowl bonuses. They will still be there, but some additional wording like "No bonus paid out if you are the 9th alternate" will be added. Imagine owing your backup QB $1 Million because the 16 guys ahead of him said no? Title: Re: The Dolphins have their first Pro Bowl QB in 27 years. Post by: Spider-Dan on January 31, 2023, 02:56:35 pm If the money isn't on the following year's cap, who cares? I don't give a damn about saving money for Steve Bisciotti or Zygi Wilf.
Title: Re: The Dolphins have their first Pro Bowl QB in 27 years. Post by: CF DolFan on February 01, 2023, 11:19:55 am I just read that Josh Allen is skipping pro bowl due to injury but is competing in Pebble Beach golf tournament.
Title: Re: The Dolphins have their first Pro Bowl QB in 27 years. Post by: EDGECRUSHER on February 01, 2023, 11:44:37 am I just read that Josh Allen is skipping pro bowl due to injury but is competing in Pebble Beach golf tournament. Football is such a dangerous sport that no game should be played. It should just be a Skills competition. Even then, these guys are beat to hell after a long NFL season. I don't think Josh Allen has any desire to throw a football right now, especially after getting crushed in the playoffs. Title: Re: The Dolphins have their first Pro Bowl QB in 27 years. Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on February 01, 2023, 12:18:16 pm I just read that Josh Allen is skipping pro bowl due to injury but is competing in Pebble Beach golf tournament. I can imagine a whole host of injuries that would prevent someone from playing football but not prevent them from golf. There is a reason you see more 70 year olds on the golf course than the gridiron. Title: Re: The Dolphins have their first Pro Bowl QB in 27 years. Post by: fyo on February 02, 2023, 07:41:47 am Dolphins’ Tua Tagovailoa remains in concussion protocol, won’t participate in Pro Bowl The fact he still hasn't been released from protocol seems rather concerning. Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article271716142.html#storylink=cpy Reports are that Tua has now cleared the protocol and that the choice to keep him in it was deliberate (meaning he could have cleared it earlier, but there was no reason to call in the outside experts and get the testing and paperwork done). Title: Re: The Dolphins have their first Pro Bowl QB in 27 years. Post by: CF DolFan on February 14, 2023, 02:37:13 pm Tua gives his reason for not attedning Pro Bowl and I'm 100% on board. I didn;t thinkn he should have either. It would have been a bad look.
“I’m good. I didn’t think it was necessary the first thing I came back to do football-related wasn’t team related with the Dolphins,” Tagovailoa said on the Dan Le Batard show Title: Re: The Dolphins have their first Pro Bowl QB in 27 years. Post by: Pappy13 on February 17, 2023, 09:05:50 am Tua gives his reason for not attedning Pro Bowl and I'm 100% on board. I didn;t thinkn he should have either. It would have been a bad look. The problem with Tua is that he talks a good game. When he starts practicing what he preaches he'll be a lot better QB in my humble opinion.“I’m good. I didn’t think it was necessary the first thing I came back to do football-related wasn’t team related with the Dolphins,” Tagovailoa said on the Dan Le Batard show Title: Re: The Dolphins have their first Pro Bowl QB in 27 years. Post by: CF DolFan on February 17, 2023, 03:47:45 pm The problem with Tua is that he talks a good game. When he starts practicing what he preaches he'll be a lot better QB in my humble opinion. I'm not sure what you are meaning. What has he said that contridicted what he did? Title: Re: The Dolphins have their first Pro Bowl QB in 27 years. Post by: Pappy13 on February 18, 2023, 07:53:32 am I'm not sure what you are meaning. What has he said that contridicted what he did? The specific instance I can remember was after his first concussion where he talked with reporters while he was still waiting to return to playing while in the protocol and said he needed to be more careful and play smart and things along that nature. I don't have exact quotes and not really feeling like looking for them, but then when he started playing again in his first game it was I believe, he scrambled and lead with his head to get a first down. Things of that nature. I believe he even admitted after the game that was the wrong thing to do and said something along the lines of things change for him when he gets into the game. Title: Re: The Dolphins have their first Pro Bowl QB in 27 years. Post by: Spider-Dan on February 18, 2023, 01:24:54 pm That's not what he said after the game. He said that he needed to prove to himself that he could still play, which isn't the same thing.
I was also concerned about his mentality after the PIT game, but as we saw in the games after that, it wasn't an issue. Now, I suppose you could make the argument that Tua should NEVER try to make a first down if it means diving instead of sliding, but I don't know if that is a realistic expectation for an NFL QB. Title: Re: The Dolphins have their first Pro Bowl QB in 27 years. Post by: Pappy13 on February 19, 2023, 08:56:32 am That's not what he said after the game. He said that he needed to prove to himself that he could still play, which isn't the same thing. You're right that's not what I said, it's worse. Before the game says he needs to be smart. During the game and after he's trying to prove how tough he is. Title: Re: The Dolphins have their first Pro Bowl QB in 27 years. Post by: Spider-Dan on February 19, 2023, 01:15:25 pm Again, that's not the same thing.
There's a difference between "I wanted to show everyone that I'm a tough guy" and "After coming back from this major injury, I needed to prove to myself that I can still play normally." And it's not like he kept trying to run people over after that game. Believe me, I was concerned about whether Tua could mentally recover after the PIT game: SOTG goes to Tua. His decision making was just terrible. He should have had 3 picks, but even more worryingly, he's trying to bulldoze people to prove some sort of point. This is the one time that I've been really concerned about his viability as a franchise QB. He might be mind-fucked. Tua needs a LOT of work from the coaching staff in the next week, and very little of it has to do with football. If he doesn't understand how important he is to the success of this team, and does not make decisions accordingly, then he is of little value to the organization. But we had several games after that in which Tua showed that he understands he needs to protect himself. This doesn't mean throwing the ball away any time a defender gets near you - you can't be successful playing like that - but it does mean protecting yourself instead of trying to run guys over. And it seems like Tua showed after the PIT game that he learned that lesson. |