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Title: Alternate Mount Rushmore - Receivers
Post by: dolphins4life on February 26, 2023, 12:51:54 am
Yatil Green
Derrius Thompson
Derek Hagan
Cris Carter (They signed him for 2002, but he dropped a key touchdown pass in the end zone against Minnesota that year, changing the course of the season)


Title: Re: Alternate Mount Rushmore - Receivers
Post by: Dave Gray on February 26, 2023, 01:08:22 pm
You have too many players on here, in my opinion, that just weren't with us long enough or didn't cost us anything.  Thompson...yeah, he didn't become anything, but we didn't draft him and he wasn't around very long.
Same with Cris Carter.  We brought him in at the end of his career, expecting nothing, and pretty much got nothing.


Yatil Green is on there.  He just couldn't get healthy.  It sucks, but he was a big cost to the franchise.
Derek Hagan is a pretty good choice.

How about Ted Ginn?  He had good moments and he wasn't a trash player.  But he never lived up to what we drafted him for at 9th overall.  He had a decent NFL career as a returner and possession guy, but never justified his draft position or roster spot as our #1 receiver. 

Devante Parker also never justified his draft position.




Title: Re: Alternate Mount Rushmore - Receivers
Post by: dolphins4life on February 26, 2023, 01:33:53 pm
You have too many players on here, in my opinion, that just weren't with us long enough or didn't cost us anything.  Thompson...yeah, he didn't become anything, but we didn't draft him and he wasn't around very long.
Same with Cris Carter.  We brought him in at the end of his career, expecting nothing, and pretty much got nothing.


Yatil Green is on there.  He just couldn't get healthy.  It sucks, but he was a big cost to the franchise.
Derek Hagan is a pretty good choice.

How about Ted Ginn?  He had good moments and he wasn't a trash player.  But he never lived up to what we drafted him for at 9th overall.  He had a decent NFL career as a returner and possession guy, but never justified his draft position or roster spot as our #1 receiver. 

Devante Parker also never justified his draft position.




Thompson was supposed to complement Chambers in 2003, but failed

Carter cost us dearly in 2002

Ginn helped us for three seasons and got a bad rap.  He had a successful career and stuck it to the Miami Dolphins.


Title: Re: Alternate Mount Rushmore - Receivers
Post by: Downunder Dolphan on February 27, 2023, 08:29:10 am
If we can extend the definition of the receivers group to the TE position, then I humbly nominate....

Eric Green.

The guy was great at Pittsburgh... and an expensive dud (at the time the highest paid TE in NFL history) for us. Worse still, we fit him in by cutting Keith Jackson (who immediately proved his worth to Green Bay on a Championship team).

Case closed.


Title: Re: Alternate Mount Rushmore - Receivers
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on February 27, 2023, 01:48:26 pm
David Boston. Pro Bowl pedigree, traded not much to the Chargers for him and he basically bench pressed his way out of the league. Dude got so big he couldn't play football anymore.

I believe he was arrested a dozen times since leaving the league a year later.


Title: Re: Alternate Mount Rushmore - Receivers
Post by: Downunder Dolphan on February 28, 2023, 05:52:10 am
David Boston. Pro Bowl pedigree, traded not much to the Chargers for him and he basically bench pressed his way out of the league. Dude got so big he couldn't play football anymore.

I believe he was arrested a dozen times since leaving the league a year later.

Wow, that's a name I managed to forget for years... he definitely deserves to be one of the four on the alternate Mount.


Title: Re: Alternate Mount Rushmore - Receivers
Post by: CF DolFan on February 28, 2023, 08:28:18 am
It cost him 4 games for steroids but David Boston gets the award for the reciever having the biggest arms.

(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/15693/DavidBoston2.jpg)


Title: Re: Alternate Mount Rushmore - Receivers
Post by: DenverFinFan on February 28, 2023, 08:03:08 pm
David Boston. Pro Bowl pedigree, traded not much to the Chargers for him and he basically bench pressed his way out of the league. Dude got so big he couldn't play football anymore.

I believe he was arrested a dozen times since leaving the league a year later.

Boston is really the one I would go with.

I can’t really add Greene because it’s not his fault he got hurt, Cris Carter was old and had kidney problems…

Maybe Wes Welker for doing great things outside of Miami?

Brandon Marshall maybe? He didn’t live up to his potential


Title: Re: Alternate Mount Rushmore - Receivers
Post by: Downunder Dolphan on March 01, 2023, 03:51:25 am
Brandon Marshall maybe? He didn’t live up to his potential

Funnily enough I had him as a contender for the (genuine) Mt Rushmore - he was a damn good receiver for us who played at an elite level despite our Quarterbacks at the time being not particularly good. Unfortunately he made a point of that at the Pro Bowl (where he was MVP) and got shipped out immediately after.

Jarvis Landry I thought was another contender for the (genuine) Mt Rushmore, but overall I placed Nat Moore's body of work above these two. The off-field issues admittedly didn't exactly help their case either.

If you're talking about a potential dud for this section, how about Mike "hands of stone" Wallace? He was another overhyped, overpriced ex-Steeler who never played up to the same level for us.

 


Title: Re: Alternate Mount Rushmore - Receivers
Post by: Downunder Dolphan on March 01, 2023, 06:20:32 am
My four: (excluding the TE position - if there is one for there, Eric Green will have four different angles of his own face for every spot)

Yatil Green - yes it's unfair, his luck sucked. But the reasons are well explained in the Ring of Dishonor.

David Boston (aka Muscles)

Mike Wallace (aka Hands of Stone)

Ted Ginn - again maybe a little unfair. He was a hell of a great kick returner, and that bomb from Henne to burn Revis on MNF 2009 was a thing of beauty... but one brilliant reception does not make a career. He was drafted way too high for what he turned out to be for us... oh, and there's also that damning Snoop Video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYSxJgjjJFc



Title: Re: Alternate Mount Rushmore - Receivers
Post by: FinFanCR on March 27, 2023, 11:10:59 am
Yatil Green
David Boston
Ted Ginn (drop it like it's hot)
Tony Martin (played well for other teams but screwed the Dolphins over twice)

Also thought of Larry Shannon.  Jimmy Johnson passed on Randy Moss in 1998 to draft him in the third round and said he was a step faster than Moss.   He never caught a pass in the NFL.


Title: Re: Alternate Mount Rushmore - Receivers
Post by: dolphins4life on March 29, 2023, 05:38:21 pm
Just curious, do any of you remember Cris Carter's end zone drop against Minnesota in 2002?


Title: Re: Alternate Mount Rushmore - Receivers
Post by: FinFanCR on April 02, 2023, 10:35:00 pm
Ted Ginn - again maybe a little unfair. He was a hell of a great kick returner, and that bomb from Henne to burn Revis on MNF 2009 was a thing of beauty... but one brilliant reception does not make a career. He was drafted way too high for what he turned out to be for us... oh, and there's also that damning Snoop Video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYSxJgjjJFc

My issue is that they had much bigger holes to fill and ignored that.  When you're coming off a 6-10 season with lousy QB play, you don't draft a return specialist in the first round.   The entire fan base (myself included) wanted Brady Quinn because they needed a QB and he was the best on the board.   In hindsight, Ginn did have a long career in the league.


Title: Re: Alternate Mount Rushmore - Receivers
Post by: EDGECRUSHER on April 03, 2023, 02:35:12 pm
Just curious, do any of you remember Cris Carter's end zone drop against Minnesota in 2002?

Yes, I believe we all thought he was a secret agent for them.


Title: Re: Alternate Mount Rushmore - Receivers
Post by: Phishfan on April 03, 2023, 03:20:43 pm
My issue is that they had much bigger holes to fill and ignored that.  When you're coming off a 6-10 season with lousy QB play, you don't draft a return specialist in the first round.   The entire fan base (myself included) wanted Brady Quinn because they needed a QB and he was the best on the board.   In hindsight, Ginn did have a long career in the league.

With no hindsight needed drafting Quinn was always a terrible. If you don't believe me grave dig. That guy was never going to amount to anything