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Title: NFL gets tough on gambling
Post by: AQNOR on September 29, 2023, 04:34:46 pm
The NFL is really cracking down on this.  One year if you bet on football, two years if you bet on your own team, and a progressive disciplinary policy if you do any sports betting while at the team facility or if traveling with your team.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38521972/nfl-toughens-bets-own-team-new-gambling-policy

I totally understand not allowing betting on football.   However, outlawing betting on other sports?   Even if it's at the team facility or on team related travel, I don't see how it can affect the NFL.


Title: Re: NFL gets tough on gambling
Post by: Dave Gray on September 29, 2023, 05:12:28 pm
I work in a field that sometimes deals with people getting issues with their security clearance.  You can't have a bunch of debt and work in a casino.  There's just too much risk in the opportunity of you trying to do something sketchy.

The feeling is the same.

If you get in the hole betting on baseball, then what's to say that you don't help shave a point here or there to erase those debts with the bookies.  It's just too much risk and there's no reason to do it.


Title: Re: NFL gets tough on gambling
Post by: Downunder Dolphan on September 30, 2023, 06:36:49 am
Sports gambling is a massive problem in Australia, and the major players have got their hooks into the major codes with a lot of major sponsorship and prime time advertising.

It has got to the stage where a number of sports and media are dependent (dare I say addicted) to the cash. The closest we had to a fixing scandal was when an AFL umpire leaked out information about weekly votes for the MVP last year, which caused major waves at the time when there were "unusual" successful bets. It's relatively minor compared to the major betting scandals involving Cricket overseas, but it's a good motivator to try and lessen the influence and impact of gambling in Australian sport.

There's a lot of discomfort about where this is going, and there is a lot to be undone here - I think the NFL is doing the right thing tackling this early and making sure it doesn't get anywhere near as bad as the situation here.

 


Title: Re: NFL gets tough on gambling
Post by: MyGodWearsAHoodie on September 30, 2023, 03:04:21 pm
 I am pretty sure every large employer I have ever had had a rule prohbitting gambling on company premise.  Rule wasn't always followed or enforced.   We knew the Superbowl squares and March madness brackets were not approved by corporate and we could get in trouble.  (Doubtful cause I only participated in ones my boss also was in)


Title: Re: NFL gets tough on gambling
Post by: CF DolFan on October 05, 2023, 08:15:23 am

I totally understand not allowing betting on football.   However, outlawing betting on other sports?   Even if it's at the team facility or on team related travel, I don't see how it can affect the NFL.
If a player loses a bunch of money to a bookie they may be inclined to throw a game for him to make up for it. I used to think you should be able to bet on your team (as Mike Florio has stated) but I disagree with that now for the same reasons. Too many things can happen when players are betting on games and most of them are just bad.


Title: Re: NFL gets tough on gambling
Post by: AQNOR on October 05, 2023, 11:22:35 am
If a player loses a bunch of money to a bookie they may be inclined to throw a game for him to make up for it. I used to think you should be able to bet on your team (as Mike Florio has stated) but I disagree with that now for the same reasons. Too many things can happen when players are betting on games and most of them are just bad.

Well here's the thing.  With sports gambling legal in all 50 states and apps like DraftKings and FanDuel now prevalent, they shouldn't even be betting with bookies.   Bet on those apps that take your money the moment you place the bet.  That way you're less inclined to risk and there's no way to make up for it by throwing a game.


Title: Re: NFL gets tough on gambling
Post by: CF DolFan on October 05, 2023, 11:31:38 am
Well here's the thing.  With sports gambling legal in all 50 states and apps like DraftKings and FanDuel now prevalent, they shouldn't even be betting with bookies.   Bet on those apps that take your money the moment you place the bet.  That way you're less inclined to risk and there's no way to make up for it by throwing a game.
You don't think there are people behind those apps? I get what you are saying but people are blackmailed at every level.


Title: Re: NFL gets tough on gambling
Post by: Dave Gray on October 05, 2023, 12:49:45 pm
Also, especially if it's not allowed, players probably won't be taking bets directly on their DraftKings accounts.

Draftkings is for public dopes.  I think pro gamblers and whales are working with bookies to get their best lines and game the system as much as possible.


Title: Re: NFL gets tough on gambling
Post by: AQNOR on October 05, 2023, 01:20:03 pm
You don't think there are people behind those apps? I get what you are saying but people are blackmailed at every level.

A lot of those people are anonymous and offshore and would prefer not to get involved in a point shaving/game throwing scam.