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I'm guessing you guys don' see these these things but there have been so many things kind of proving that the non vaccine "scientists" weren't crazy at all. Dr Drew is continually pointing out the hypocrisy and lies that were spewed in order to force the vaccine. I love it when some of the worst like Chris Cuomo do an about face.

Chris Cuomo makes staggering U-turn after confessing he now takes 'regular dose' of Ivermectin for long Covid - despite ridiculing antibacterial drug during pandemichttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13403891/Chris-Cuomo-Ivermectin-long-covid-treatment.html

Ugh...you are exhausting with this.  Ivermectin isn't the boogeyman.  It just wasn't the right tool for the job according to the doctors who were using best practice according to the scientific method.  I'm not pro or anti-Ivermectin.

I don't think people should be taking veterinary versions of medicines against their doctors wishes, in lieu of the recommended treatments.

What medicine you take isn't a right/left gotcha political issue, dude.  It's just science.

Some people also like essential oils to help with their sciatica, whatever floats their boat.

This doesn’t change my views on Ivermectin.  I didn’t have a that much respect for Cummo before this article so this article doesn’t move the needle on that front either.

One of the reasons I trust CNN but not NewsNation is when CNN learned of Cummos ethical lapses they fired him, NewsNation hired him knowing why he got fired.

So many things with what happened and continue to happen but you guys keep your head buried in the sand. Therre is a ton of resources out there if you actually cared to know.

 Bill Maher Drops Stunning Monologue on the COVID “Experts” Who Got It Wrong

“A lot of the dissenting opinions that were suppressed and ridiculed at the time have proven to be CORRECT.”

This includes, but is not limited to:

• COVID came from a lab
• Ivermectin worked
• Masks offered no benefit and were harmful
• Should have never kept kids out of school
• Natural immunity is better than vaccinated immunity
• Long COVID is often a symptom of long vax
• Hospitals murdered COVID patients
• COVID fatality rate and death count were highly inflated
• Unvaccinated were scapegoated for the failure of the shots
• Early treatment was suppressed to make way for a “vaccine”
• Risks of the jab were intentionally hidden from the public
• Vaccine mandates are wrong
• More shots = more risk of infection
• COVID shots are neither safe nor effective

That is still unknown, with no definitive answer one way or the other.  And at no point did anyone reputable say It absolutely came from a lab or not.  At different times the available analysis seemed to point one way or the other.  That is how science works, new information, new likelihoods.


Totally false.


Also totally false.


That is an opinion not a statement of fact.   Keeping kids out of school undoubtedly slowed the spread and lowered the death count.  But it also had negative effects on the children's development.  It is my opinion that closing the schools was the right decision, but that is a value judgement.


In someways yes, in someways no.  Problem with natural immunity is the risk associated with death while acquiring it. 

Huh? 



Huh?  Hospitals were stretched for resources and sometimes didn't have the ability to treat all of them, but they didn't murder patients.


This is a conspiracy theory that has been debunked.  The numbers weren't perfect with people dying of covid and not counted because they were never tested and others who died who had covid that probably would have died anyway, but the overall death toll proves that Covid caused a significant spike in people dying. 


Never happened. 


Not suppressed, but the Trump administration definitely prioritized vaccine research over treatments. I was very critical of him for doing this at the time, turned out to be a good move.  Even if done for bad reasons.   


No they weren't.


That is an opinion.  I support vaccine mandates, I was required to get a whole bunch of shots before I could enroll in public school as a child and my college also required my vaccines to be updated. 


True.  But the benefit of the vaccine vastly out weights the small risk of infection.


Wrong they have been proven both safe and effective.  As those terms are generally agreed on. 

I disagree with most of what you're saying, based on how I understand the science as spoken by scientists.  I don't really want to get into it.

There is a bigger question of "who gives a shit?"  Let the expert scientists work out the science over time.  COVID is in the rear-view mirror.  We can learn lessons and stuff, sure, but what do you want from this?  Even if we run across a new strain, it won't be COVID, so we'll have to figure out what its terms are and how to deal with it.

Also, you have to prepare with best practices, not knowing all the data yet.  People who wore gloves to pick up their groceries weren't dumb people.  We just didn't have information on airborne spread, so they took precaution.

You predict hurricane paths and prepare to the best of your ability.  Sometimes the hurricane misses you.  4 years later, you're not wagging weather maps in people's faces about the forecasters being wrong because you had to put up your shutters.

Actually the folks spouting off the Covid nonsense are the same folks who refuse to heed storm warnings because "last year they predicted a massive storm and it didn't do much"

Actually you are talking out your arse ... as usual. The people who don't buy into the bullshit spewed and didn't follow the rules are more likely the same people who hid Ann Frank and ran the Underground Railroad. They don't need the government to tell them how to live and they most surely weren't the people crying to authorities when their neighbors refused to get the shot or wear a mask after being told to do so.

^^^^ If you are looking for a modern day Miep Gies, it is not the people refusing to wear a mask, it is the people who risk jail time to provide water to migrants in the Arizona desert.  You can't claim you would have helped the Jews perscuted by the Nazis and support the persecution of Hispanics by MAGA.

No kidding. You quite often find ways to make me laugh. Latinos are moving towards Trump but I guess you'd just say they aren't intelligent enough to know better. You know, kind of like how you guys don't think blacks know what a computer is. Nothing more racist than a Democratic politician.

This seems like a fantasy slight that you're pretending that you had to endure.

There were by and large very little mask mandates for very long at any government level, especially where you live.  And except for very specific industries, there were not vaccine mandates at all.

You're pretending to be a victim here.  What do you actually want that you didn't get?

You guys make up things to try to make someone look silly. I'm not sure when that style of child like arguing became so popular but it is.  

I'm not a victim and mandates were real. You couldn't go into restaurants or stores without them and in some cases without having the shot.  I almost lost my job for not getting a shot. I had to go past mandate dates etc in order to get them to finally agree we didn't have to get them. I wouldn't call that being a victim because I had to fight for what I thought was right. That's the major difference from progressive liberals and everyone else. We deal with our crap while they think they need to be compensated for some made up issue that never even happened or isn't relevant.

Now even liberals are admitting the shots caused some damage. My 55 year old boss suddenly developed Parkinson after getting the shot that was mandated by our company. Can't tell you how much she regrets being one of the few who did. Can't tell you how much it sucks for her as she can't even sue anyone for help and is now almost permanently disabled.

 

speaking of comedy CF, wow,

First off .. stores and restaurants aren't the government, private business can mandate whatever the crap they want as long as it isn't discriminatory towards a protected class. This is not the government. Welcome to capitalism and the free market.

Do you work for the government? Cause if you don't then you almost losing your job again, is a private company doing free market things. Not the government.

What is more likely, your 55 year old boss getting parkinsons because that's just how the disease progresses and that's in the ballpark of when symptoms manifest enough for a diagnosis. Or are we going to blame a boogeyman shot that in no way is connected to parkinsons in any conceivable way.

When i finally arrive at a terminal or chornic illness hopefully many years away from now, i'll make sure to blame the last movie i watched in the theatre for it.  or some gummy bears i ate 30 years earlier

2 things. The first is my company was mandated by the Federal Govt to get the shots because we work on Federal contracts. New York tried to mandate their citizens by making it almost impossible to do anything without it. Fortunately I live in the free state of Florida. Remember the whole "vaccine card" . That wasn't a private business idea. Private businesses were punished for not enforcing it.

Secondly her neurologist told her that he isn't saying the shot caused it, but most of the early onset people he has seen in recent years had gotten one or more of shots. I get that you think that's coincidence but whatever. Maybe you can go back and sue that movie or gummy bear company fro mental anguish? It wouldn't be the craziest thing progressives do these days. Hahaha

Somebody is lying could be you, could be your coworker, possibly the neurologist (but I doubt that) or the entire professional medical community (you probably would claim that) but the professional studies have shown that getting covid increases your chances of Parkinson disease, but no increased risk from the vax.

We've distributed like one billion doses of the vax.  Even if 1 out of 10,000 cases developed Parkinson's, there'd be an absolute explosion of the disease by like 500,000 cases.  There are issues with the vaccine with reactions, for sure (I know one), but they are very rare and they pale in comparison to what happens if you'd gotten COVID.

So did you lose your job for not getting a shot? Doesn't sound like it:

Sounds like you did what you pleased regardless of any federal "mandates."

Given that you don't live in New York, this seems like a fantasy slight that you're pretending that you had to endure.

Did her neurologist mention how many of them had COVID?  Seems like the vaccine alarmists are always trying to downplay the dangers of catching COVID itself, even if they've been hospitalized with COVID symptoms (like you were).

81% of all Americans have had the COVID vaccine.  This number is even higher when isolating for older age groups.  So, of course more of her patients have had the shot than not.

Your friend didn't get Parkinsons from the vaccine.  Jesus Christ, man.

Real question because I'm curious...

Why is it that you're so quick to say that the world's scientists are lying to you about everything, but you believe the third-hand word of some random doctor?

Just seems like you should be more eager to question that information, given how vehemently you question all the other facts you receive on a daily basis.

I suspect it's the same reason why we can't trust lying Big Pharma about their scam vaccines, but we can definitely trust Big Pharma's ivermectin and their monoclonal antibodies.

Not some random doctor. Plenty of highly respected doctors came out against it and were both silenced and shunned. It's almost impossible to find any article written by a highly published doctor because Google won't allow it. they were deleted. It's almost as if their opinions are more dangerous than say any terrorist or racist group in the world .... haha. You can find that crap anywhere inclduing how to build bombs etc. Common sense should tell you something is wrong with that.

- We were told get the shot so you can't infect others although getting the shot didn't stop it.
- We were told to wear a mask and now evidence is clear that if you can smell a fart the mask is useless ... and they are. It's a mental crutch at best.
-We were told natural immunity wasn't as good as the shot but now everyone admits that was wrong. Keep in mind that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and other health authorities dismissed natural immunity in favor of the vaccines for nearly two years.
-We were told to vaccinate our kids although they weren't suffering from serious Covid issues.
-We were told so many things that weren't true and then mandated and bullied to try and get us to conform. LOL ... many of you guys continue to do so.
- We were told get the shot or die yet most of us are still here ... even after getting Covid. Some of us more than once.

How does everyone forget the government has been caught running illegal tests on civilians many times? Project MKUltra and the Tuskegee Experiments were real people! It's like you think your too smart to be fooled like those people? They've got you right wee they need you. Again ... common sense should kick in sooner or later and at least create a few questions.

https://youtu.be/b6NmjK2pgiQ?si=2GohBrTg4ssNgOaP

By definition, they weren't "silenced" or you wouldn't have heard them.  Were they shunned?  Yep, because their methodology was bad.  And we know this because for every one "highly respected doctor" that came out against vaccines, there were hundreds that came out for them.  You simply reject those you disagree with.

First off, archive.org exists.  If these articles from "highly published doctors" ever really existed, you and yours would be passing around archive.org links to Forbidden Articles.  But you aren't.

But let's stipulate that what you're saying is true.  Google also "blacklists" (read: de-prioritizes in search results) webpages from ISIS, or child pornography.  So which "dangerous opinions" should Google amplify?

In order:

- No vaccine (or medical procedure) in the history of medicine has ever been claimed to be "100% effective."  Vasectomies aren't claimed to be "100% effective."  So when y'all claim you were told COVID vaccines meant you "cannot" be infected, you were never told that by a doctor.
- Y'all claim "masks are useless" but they have consistently proven to reduce the spread of COVID, as evidenced by every other industrialized nation on the planet, ALL of whom had better COVID outcomes than the US.
- Natural immunity requires you to catch the virus that killed millions; in your worst conspiracy fever dreams, COVID vaccines killed tens of thousands at most.
- Vaccines can't prevent you from catching a disease you are currently infected with, so of course it was recommended for people who "aren't suffering from serious COVID issues."
- [content-free conspiracy nonsense]
- Over a million Americans died from COVID and you're STILL not convinced that it's a deadly disease.